Ukraine takes war INTO Russia ?

[BackAgain]

Ukraine Strikes Inside Russian Territory, Russians Say — The Wall Street Journal

Offensive maneuver comes as Russian forces regroup and Ukrainian troops press forward around Kyiv

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Assuming this story is true, it looks like Ukraine has started to take the Putin-started war INTO Russia. Instead of attacking residential buildings and hospitals and civilian shelters, like Putin has been doing to Ukraine, it looks like Ukraine selected a traditionally military target.

All actions come with consequences. That includes reactions to some consequences. So, although I think the Ukrainian move is valid, I guess I’m wondering how it will pan out now?

 

[JoeMoma]

I don't trust any news about the Russia-Ukraine war going on now.

 

[MisterBeale]

Ukraine Strikes Inside Russian Territory, Russians Say — The Wall Street Journal

Offensive maneuver comes as Russian forces regroup and Ukrainian troops press forward around Kyiv

apple.news

Assuming this story is true, it looks like Ukraine has started to take the Putin-started war INTO Russia. Instead of attacking residential buildings and hospitals and civilian shelters, like Putin has been doing to Ukraine, it looks like Ukraine selected a traditionally military target.

All actions come with consequences. That includes reactions to some consequences. So, although I think the Ukrainian move is valid, I guess I’m wondering how it will pan out now?

You know. .. I was wondering about this just the other day.

When Russia declared it was going to initiate a, "Special Military Operation," in Ukraine. .. If I were Zelenskyy, I would have went to the Ukrainian legislature and requested a declaration of war, or how ever their system does that . . but I did not hear of Ukraine declaring war on Russia?

What is up with that?

How can the Ukraine military forces strike Russia, with out a declaration of war?

Ukraine Strikes Inside Russian Territory, Russians Say​

Ukraine Strikes Inside Russian Territory, Russians Say

"KYIV, Ukraine—Ukrainian attack helicopters executed a low-flying predawn raid on Russian territory, a Russian official said, eluding air defenses to strike an oil depot as peace talks over the war were set to get under way.

Security-camera footage released by Russian state-owned media channel RIA Novosti appeared to show several missiles firing at the depot and setting off explosions. Vyacheslav Gladkov, the regional governor of Belgorod, where the attack took place, wrote on social media that two Ukrainian helicopters carried out the operation while flying at low altitude.

Belgorod is located close to the Ukrainian border with Russia and north of Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city.

Ukrainian officials didn’t immediately take responsibility for the attack. “I can neither confirm nor reject the claim that Ukraine was involved in this simply because I do not possess all the military information,” Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said.

“This is not something that can be perceived as creating comfortable conditions for the continuation of negotiations,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Friday, referring to the strike.

If confirmed, the Belgorod raid would be Kyiv’s second helicopter operation in as many days, following an attempt to penetrate Russian air defenses around the besieged city of Mariupol, along Ukraine’s Azov Sea coast.

Ukraine flew two Mi-8 transport helicopters on a mission to evacuate members of the Azov battalion that has allowed the city to remain in Ukrainian control despite near-constant Russian bombardment of civilian sites.. . . ."

 

[MisterBeale]

I don't trust any news about the Russia-Ukraine war going on now.

I do. . . if I read the same news from both sides.

 

[Likkmee]

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[Donald H]

Ukraine Strikes Inside Russian Territory, Russians Say — The Wall Street Journal

Offensive maneuver comes as Russian forces regroup and Ukrainian troops press forward around Kyiv

apple.news

Assuming this story is true, it looks like Ukraine has started to take the Putin-started war INTO Russia. Instead of attacking residential buildings and hospitals and civilian shelters, like Putin has been doing to Ukraine, it looks like Ukraine selected a traditionally military target.

All actions come with consequences. That includes reactions to some consequences. So, although I think the Ukrainian move is valid, I guess I’m wondering how it will pan out now?

It legitimizes actions to be taken by Russia against the party responsible.
Or more accurately, whoever Russia chooses to fight now.

Any escalation of the war can't be a positive development.

 

[Donald H]

The same story from RT.com

Kremlin responds to alleged Ukrainian attack on Russian soil

The Kremlin said that the reported Ukrainian helicopter raid on Russian soil doesn’t bode well for future peace talks

www.rt.com

A Ukrainian website is claiming that there wasn't a helicopter attack.

 

[BackAgain]

You know. .. I was wondering about this just the other day.

When Russia declared it was going to initiate a, "Special Military Operation," in Ukraine. .. If I were Zelenskyy, I would have went to the Ukrainian legislature and requested a declaration of war, or how ever their system does that . . but I did not hear of Ukraine declaring war on Russia?

What is up with that?

How can the Ukraine military forces strike Russia, with out a declaration of war?

Ukraine Strikes Inside Russian Territory, Russians Say​

Ukraine Strikes Inside Russian Territory, Russians Say

"KYIV, Ukraine—Ukrainian attack helicopters executed a low-flying predawn raid on Russian territory, a Russian official said, eluding air defenses to strike an oil depot as peace talks over the war were set to get under way.

Security-camera footage released by Russian state-owned media channel RIA Novosti appeared to show several missiles firing at the depot and setting off explosions. Vyacheslav Gladkov, the regional governor of Belgorod, where the attack took place, wrote on social media that two Ukrainian helicopters carried out the operation while flying at low altitude.

Belgorod is located close to the Ukrainian border with Russia and north of Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city.

Ukrainian officials didn’t immediately take responsibility for the attack. “I can neither confirm nor reject the claim that Ukraine was involved in this simply because I do not possess all the military information,” Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said.

“This is not something that can be perceived as creating comfortable conditions for the continuation of negotiations,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Friday, referring to the strike.

If confirmed, the Belgorod raid would be Kyiv’s second helicopter operation in as many days, following an attempt to penetrate Russian air defenses around the besieged city of Mariupol, along Ukraine’s Azov Sea coast.

Ukraine flew two Mi-8 transport helicopters on a mission to evacuate members of the Azov battalion that has allowed the city to remain in Ukrainian control despite near-constant Russian bombardment of civilian sites.. . . ."

I don’t think that any nation defending itself has any obligation to “declare” a war already being waged against it.

 

[TNHarley]

Ukraine hasnt taken credit for it. I saw something this morning that they said it was probably russian false flag

 

[JoeMoma]

I do. . . if I read the same news from both sides.

That is logical enough. I am not looking for news from either side, so any news I get is kind of at random. Thus, I am not trusting it.

 

[BackAgain]

It legitimizes actions to be taken by Russia against the party responsible.
Or more accurately, whoever Russia chooses to fight now.

Any escalation of the war can't be a positive development.

If we were kids in the schoolyard and you walked up to me and punched me in my nose then proceeded to wail on me with fists and kicks, i happen to believe that it’s absolute bullshit if you then ***** about my return punch to your solar plexus.

You can mouth off to me all you want about how a return punch will “escalate” the fight. But I’m still gonna try to kick your ass.

 

[Concerned American]

How can the Ukraine military forces strike Russia, with out a declaration of war?

The same way Russia attacked Ukraine without a declaration of war. Special Operation. AKA Police Action in the US.

 

[Donald H]

Ukraine hasnt taken credit for it. I saw something this morning that they said it was probably russian false flag

That's the story so far from RT.com, as I posted.

I can see reasons why Russia could want to promote the story, and appears to be doing so to some extent by claiming it would be upsetting the fuel supply.

 

[Concerned American]

It legitimizes actions to be taken by Russia against the party responsible.
Or more accurately, whoever Russia chooses to fight now.

Any escalation of the war can't be a positive development.

Ukraine has an obligation to defend its people against aggressors duck. Only commies see Russia as being justified. The shoe fits, put it on.

 

[Concerned American]

upsetting the fuel supply.

What does Russia blowing up fuel pipelines in Ukraine do, duck? Check your hypocrisy at the door.

 

[Donald H]

Also of particular note concerning this war: The West's claim of Putin being unpopular with his people has been changes to saying that his popularity has *skyrocketed.

*the words used in one article I read.

 

[Cassandro]

The War in Ukraine has replaced Oprah as the most popular daytime tv show. What will Putin do next? Stay tuned...

 

[Donald H]

What does Russia blowing up fuel pipelines in Ukraine do, duck? Check your hypocrisy at the door.

That does seem to disprove or at least negate Putin's claim. As to who was responsible, the Ukraine or Russia acting irresponsibly, I'm not suggesting either yet.

Even though I can see Russia involved in a possible false flag tactic. Russia may be looking for a reason for a huge allout display of force.

However this doesn't seem to contain claims of many civilian casualties and so doesn't fit that narrative very well.

 

[Burgermeister]

Russia hasn't demonstrated the need for a false flag to do anything.

 

[toobfreak]

I don't trust any news about the Russia-Ukraine war going on now.

Good point.

I have never seen a "war" like this getting so little media coverage! I mean, in the past, they had live video, reports and journalists inside covering the affair 24/7 on every TV channel..

Now, NADA.

You go on Tik Tok for a video clip.

Meantime, this is now a full blown proxy war with the USA supplying the arms and weapons and the Ukraines attacking Russia with them. Meantime, Joe Brandon has used America's reserve currency as a weapon now driving many countries to seek other currencies and abandoning ours.

While everyone focuses on Russia this and Ukraine that, they fail to see the larger picture that Joe has screwed the pooch and eventually, this war thanks to Joe Brandon is going to come back to kick US in the teeth.