Uber banned in London

[Tommy Tainant]

They will say whatever they need to say. However words are cheap, actions are the thing.

Mayor Khan is obviously kowtowing to his taxi driver constituents and the revenue they generate for the city. It is all about the money....and who cares if the citizens are harmed.

Well you simplify it as usual. Uber dont pay tax if you study the OP. Why should anyone give a fuck about them ?

Spoken like the true statist I always knew you to be.

Why should Uber be given special privileges ? Because they have a lot of money and thats reason enough for your kind to bend over.

No...foolish statist. They were not given special privileges.

Your love of government is foolish and ignorant.

Why do you hate Uber drivers who are only trying to make a living?

Uber is the problem ,not its drivers.
Let me explain.
If you allow them to operate to lower standards than others you give them a competitive advantage.
It really is that simple.

 

[gipper]

Mayor Khan is obviously kowtowing to his taxi driver constituents and the revenue they generate for the city. It is all about the money....and who cares if the citizens are harmed.

Well you simplify it as usual. Uber dont pay tax if you study the OP. Why should anyone give a fuck about them ?

Spoken like the true statist I always knew you to be.

Why should Uber be given special privileges ? Because they have a lot of money and thats reason enough for your kind to bend over.

No...foolish statist. They were not given special privileges.

Your love of government is foolish and ignorant.

Why do you hate Uber drivers who are only trying to make a living?

Uber is the problem ,not its drivers.
Let me explain.
If you allow them to operate to lower standards than others you give them a competitive advantage.
It really is that simple.

If only you could understand that the State you so adore, is a criminal operation. Everything the corrupt State does is for it's benefit. This banning of Uber is a perfect example of this, but I do not expect you to comprehend.

 

[BulletProof]

Uber is the problem ,not its drivers.
Let me explain.
If you allow them to operate to lower standards than others you give them a competitive advantage.
It really is that simple.

No one has demonstrated that Uber was being held to lower standards, as we haven't been provided data concerning the taxi cab companies, nor for the other ride sharing services.

Further, the whole banning thing on vague demands stinks to high heaven of bullsh1t. How about fining Uber, not banning them, until specific acts of compliance is reached?

This is nothing but a crusade to benefit the old taxi companies.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Uber is the problem ,not its drivers.
Let me explain.
If you allow them to operate to lower standards than others you give them a competitive advantage.
It really is that simple.

No one has demonstrated that Uber was being held to lower standards, as we haven't been provided data concerning the taxi cab companies, nor for the other ride sharing services.

Further, the whole banning thing on vague demands stinks to high heaven of bullsh1t. How about fining Uber, not banning them, until specific acts of compliance is reached?

This is nothing but a crusade to benefit the old taxi companies.

Oh dear.
Read up on this.
You will see that they have been given every chance to sort themselves out.
They havent bothered to do so.

 

[gipper]

Uber is the problem ,not its drivers.
Let me explain.
If you allow them to operate to lower standards than others you give them a competitive advantage.
It really is that simple.

No one has demonstrated that Uber was being held to lower standards, as we haven't been provided data concerning the taxi cab companies, nor for the other ride sharing services.

Further, the whole banning thing on vague demands stinks to high heaven of bullsh1t. How about fining Uber, not banning them, until specific acts of compliance is reached?

This is nothing but a crusade to benefit the old taxi companies.

Oh dear.
Read up on this.
You will see that they have been given every chance to sort themselves out.
They havent bothered to do so.

So fine them. Don't ban them, unless maybe that was the plan all along.

 

[BulletProof]

35 complaints of sexual assault out of 15 million rides seems negligible. I'm sure in NY, blacks mug taxi drivers at a thousand times that frequency.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Uber is the problem ,not its drivers.
Let me explain.
If you allow them to operate to lower standards than others you give them a competitive advantage.
It really is that simple.

No one has demonstrated that Uber was being held to lower standards, as we haven't been provided data concerning the taxi cab companies, nor for the other ride sharing services.

Further, the whole banning thing on vague demands stinks to high heaven of bullsh1t. How about fining Uber, not banning them, until specific acts of compliance is reached?

This is nothing but a crusade to benefit the old taxi companies.

Oh dear.
Read up on this.
You will see that they have been given every chance to sort themselves out.
They havent bothered to do so.

So fine them. Don't ban them, unless maybe that was the plan all along.

Their license ran out in May and they were given a four month extension to sort themselves out.
But they didnt.
Maybe they thought that they were too big to be punished ?
And now they know where they stand.

 

[BulletProof]

Their license ran out in May and they were given a four month extension to sort themselves out.
But they didnt.
Maybe they thought that they were too big to be punished ?
And now they know where they stand.

What, specifically, was Uber suppose to do those four months?

 

[Tilly]

So fine them. Don't ban them, unless maybe that was the plan all along.

Their license ran out in May and they were given a four month extension to sort themselves out.
But they didnt.
Maybe they thought that they were too big to be punished ?
And now they know where they stand.

What, specifically, was Uber suppose to do those four months?[/QUOTE]

Uber had 10 audits by TFL and passed every one.

Khan received financial backing from the black cab union for his mayoral campaign and has simply done their bidding - they don't like the competition nor the threat to the exorbitant prices they charge customers.

Khan likes banning things - one of his first acts as mayor was to ban bikini ads on the underground!

He has told the world London is closed to business and innovation.

This sums him up:

Tom Tugendhat @TomTugendhat

Labour Luddite @SadiqKhan wants to switch off the internet. @Uber is just one example of how the internet liberates and Gov cannot control.
11:24 am · 22 Sep 2017

 

[Tilly]

Uber is the problem ,not its drivers.
Let me explain.
If you allow them to operate to lower standards than others you give them a competitive advantage.
It really is that simple.

No one has demonstrated that Uber was being held to lower standards, as we haven't been provided data concerning the taxi cab companies, nor for the other ride sharing services.

Further, the whole banning thing on vague demands stinks to high heaven of bullsh1t. How about fining Uber, not banning them, until specific acts of compliance is reached?

This is nothing but a crusade to benefit the old taxi companies.

Oh dear.
Read up on this.
You will see that they have been given every chance to sort themselves out.
They havent bothered to do so.

So fine them. Don't ban them, unless maybe that was the plan all along.

It was. Khan campaigned against uber as Mayoral candidate and received financial backing from the black cab union.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Their license ran out in May and they were given a four month extension to sort themselves out.
But they didnt.
Maybe they thought that they were too big to be punished ?
And now they know where they stand.

What, specifically, was Uber suppose to do those four months?

Comply.

 

[Tilly]

Not only did Khan receive funding for his mayoral campaign from the black cab union, but TFL are not to be trusted either:

UK minicab drivers claim TfL is 'hiding data on sexual assaults in taxis' - and they are demanding the truth

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  By Mary-Ann RussonUpdated February 22, 2016 10:34 GMT

A union claims that TfL is hiding important statistics on how many women are sexually assaulted in taxis, as part of a wider problem discriminating against minicab drivers
Minicab drivers say Transport for London (TfL) is withholding information on the number of women who are sexually assaulted when they get into taxi cabs. The drivers want the data to be made public to help fix the problem, and to end what they say is a campaign of discrimination against them.

The United Private Hire Drivers (UPHD) union, which represents 2,000 minicab drivers (including some Uber drivers), is calling on TfL to release data on the number of sexual assault incidents occurring across the London taxi industry on both London cabs and private hire vehicles, and has even started a Change.org petitionabout the issue.

UPHD launched the petition after seeing a post from the London Cab Drivers Club (LCDC) on Twitter on 13 February that listed statistics on sexual offences related to private hire drivers in 2015. LCDC asserted in its tweet that TfL doesn't want these figures released, and UPHD has discovered that this information is only being given to taxi trade unions, but not to the general public....

However, the private hire drivers feel that they are being unfairly singled out, and that TfL has been leaking out bits of the sexual assault data every now and then in order to help black cab unions in their campaigns to besmirch the reputations of minicab drivers.


"TfL has regular meetings with taxi organisation bosses and private hire bosses. TfL has been sharing crime statistics from the cab enforcement unit in the Metropolitan Police. Those crime stats were given to that group in confidence and TfL gagged them, but these stats have been leaked selectively by the cab companies. They peel off their own stats and they start leaking out the private hire car stats when it suits them," James Farrar, a co-founder of the UPHD union, told IBTimes UK.




"TfL shouldn't be giving sex assault stats to a trade body. It's not a trade issue, it's a public safety issue. You cannot manage sex crimes by keeping it quiet. This isn't a trade issue – it has nothing to do with our dispute between Uber and the black cabs, or how Uber drivers are treated."




Data seemingly leaked from various sources
After seeing LCDC's tweet on 13 February, Farrar decided to contact TfL to ask them why they refused to release the data on sexual assaults in private hire vehicles, but had given it to a black cab union instead. TfL's taxi and private hire senior relationship manager, Silka Kennedy-Todd, responded to Farrar by saying that the data referred to by LCDC was "unverified":....


UK minicab drivers claim TfL is 'hiding data on sexual assaults in taxis' - and they are demanding the truth

 

[Tilly]

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

• JONATHAN MITCHELL
• 2 days ago

Transport for London has been accused of using “bogus” politically motivated reasons to revoke Uber’s licence to operate in the capital...

...
But the Financial Times reported that TfL is responsible for checking the backgrounds of drivers, sparking accusations the charge was “bogus”.

Uber has been stripped of its licence in London (Getty Images)
A spokesman for TfL said it would not comment on specifics of background checks while TfL considers Uber's appeal.

James Farrar, an Uber driver and representative of the United Private Hire Drivers trade body, told the FT the system had been politicised.


He said: “To me this reeks. It’s a bogus charge from TfL. Uber will be able to remedy this in court immediately because DBS (disclosure and barring service) and medical certification are prerequisites for drivers getting their licences from TfL.”

A source close to Uber also told the paper: “A lot of people don’t know that drivers are background-checked and licensed by TfL.

“Uber does not get a say on who gets licensed in the capital. Without the TfL licence, they can’t come and drive on the Uber app.”...

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

 

[Tommy Tainant]

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

• JONATHAN MITCHELL
• 2 days ago

Transport for London has been accused of using “bogus” politically motivated reasons to revoke Uber’s licence to operate in the capital...

...
But the Financial Times reported that TfL is responsible for checking the backgrounds of drivers, sparking accusations the charge was “bogus”.

Uber has been stripped of its licence in London (Getty Images)
A spokesman for TfL said it would not comment on specifics of background checks while TfL considers Uber's appeal.

James Farrar, an Uber driver and representative of the United Private Hire Drivers trade body, told the FT the system had been politicised.


He said: “To me this reeks. It’s a bogus charge from TfL. Uber will be able to remedy this in court immediately because DBS (disclosure and barring service) and medical certification are prerequisites for drivers getting their licences from TfL.”

A source close to Uber also told the paper: “A lot of people don’t know that drivers are background-checked and licensed by TfL.

“Uber does not get a say on who gets licensed in the capital. Without the TfL licence, they can’t come and drive on the Uber app.”...

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

Well it will all come out in court wont it ? Lets be honest about this Tilly. Your only interest in this is to use it to beat Mayor Khan. Primarily because he is a muslim. Your comments lack any credibility.

 

[Tilly]

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

• JONATHAN MITCHELL
• 2 days ago

Transport for London has been accused of using “bogus” politically motivated reasons to revoke Uber’s licence to operate in the capital...

...
But the Financial Times reported that TfL is responsible for checking the backgrounds of drivers, sparking accusations the charge was “bogus”.

Uber has been stripped of its licence in London (Getty Images)
A spokesman for TfL said it would not comment on specifics of background checks while TfL considers Uber's appeal.

James Farrar, an Uber driver and representative of the United Private Hire Drivers trade body, told the FT the system had been politicised.


He said: “To me this reeks. It’s a bogus charge from TfL. Uber will be able to remedy this in court immediately because DBS (disclosure and barring service) and medical certification are prerequisites for drivers getting their licences from TfL.”

A source close to Uber also told the paper: “A lot of people don’t know that drivers are background-checked and licensed by TfL.

“Uber does not get a say on who gets licensed in the capital. Without the TfL licence, they can’t come and drive on the Uber app.”...

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

Well it will all come out in court wont it ? Lets be honest about this Tilly. Your only interest in this is to use it to beat Mayor Khan. Primarily because he is a muslim. Your comments lack any credibility.

Let's be honest about this, Tammy. It's a small minded stupid backward decision - but you like it because it is against business, it is against innovation, and it is against people who are wealthier than you
I've also noticed before that you seem to enjoy people losing their livelihoods if it fits in any way with your commie agenda.

I, and a great many women on the other hand, have many concerns over this decision, Mayor Khans role in it comes as no surprise to me at all as I expect very little in the way of sensible decision making from him after the bikini ad ban and the Islamic proselysing ads he allowed on London buses.

But I am also concerned about TFLs dodgy dealings and the way they have ensured the leaking of unverified and partial data about sexual assaults when they haven't been concerned about the fact that such assaults have occurred for decades before Uber appeared on the scene.

Also, women will be made less safe by this decision as they return to using unlicensed cabs at night when they can't afford Black Cabs and the underground doesn't run to where they live. Your journey in an Uber cab could be tracked by family/friends and details such as the name and address of the driver etc are known. Have you tried getting about London late at night/early morning? It's not much fun and TFL haven't done much to make the underground safe at night either. Why on earth do you think Uber is so popular?

I'm also not thrilled about putting 40,000 people out of work on the spurious basis of safety, particularly when the figures for black cabs etc are not compared and the underground is so unsafe.
It was clealry a decision to protect the black cabs and their outrageous prices and Khan owed them. I suspect he and TFL will end up with egg on their faces.

 

[Tilly]

Well it will all come out in court wont it ?

Yes it will, and that's why it's silly of you to be so prematurely excited
But what's new?

 

[gipper]

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

• JONATHAN MITCHELL
• 2 days ago

Transport for London has been accused of using “bogus” politically motivated reasons to revoke Uber’s licence to operate in the capital...

...
But the Financial Times reported that TfL is responsible for checking the backgrounds of drivers, sparking accusations the charge was “bogus”.

Uber has been stripped of its licence in London (Getty Images)
A spokesman for TfL said it would not comment on specifics of background checks while TfL considers Uber's appeal.

James Farrar, an Uber driver and representative of the United Private Hire Drivers trade body, told the FT the system had been politicised.


He said: “To me this reeks. It’s a bogus charge from TfL. Uber will be able to remedy this in court immediately because DBS (disclosure and barring service) and medical certification are prerequisites for drivers getting their licences from TfL.”

A source close to Uber also told the paper: “A lot of people don’t know that drivers are background-checked and licensed by TfL.

“Uber does not get a say on who gets licensed in the capital. Without the TfL licence, they can’t come and drive on the Uber app.”...

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

Well it will all come out in court wont it ? Lets be honest about this Tilly. Your only interest in this is to use it to beat Mayor Khan. Primarily because he is a muslim. Your comments lack any credibility.

You have it backwards,as usual. You support Khan because he is a Muslim and a public official.

 

[Muhammed]

Uber deserved to lose its licence – Londoners’ safety must come first | Sadiq Khan

Safety concerns.

FUCK!

 

[Tilly]

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

• JONATHAN MITCHELL
• 2 days ago

Transport for London has been accused of using “bogus” politically motivated reasons to revoke Uber’s licence to operate in the capital...

...
But the Financial Times reported that TfL is responsible for checking the backgrounds of drivers, sparking accusations the charge was “bogus”.

Uber has been stripped of its licence in London (Getty Images)
A spokesman for TfL said it would not comment on specifics of background checks while TfL considers Uber's appeal.

James Farrar, an Uber driver and representative of the United Private Hire Drivers trade body, told the FT the system had been politicised.


He said: “To me this reeks. It’s a bogus charge from TfL. Uber will be able to remedy this in court immediately because DBS (disclosure and barring service) and medical certification are prerequisites for drivers getting their licences from TfL.”

A source close to Uber also told the paper: “A lot of people don’t know that drivers are background-checked and licensed by TfL.

“Uber does not get a say on who gets licensed in the capital. Without the TfL licence, they can’t come and drive on the Uber app.”...

TfL accused of using 'bogus' charge to strip Uber of its licence

Well it will all come out in court wont it ? Lets be honest about this Tilly. Your only interest in this is to use it to beat Mayor Khan. Primarily because he is a muslim. Your comments lack any credibility.

You have it backwards,as usual. You support Khan because he is a Muslim and a public official.

Bingo!

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's interesting because Uber has threatened to pull out of Quebec, and the reasons they've threatened to pull out are that it would have to comply with regulations akin to taxi drivers.

Uber Says It Will Leave Quebec Rather Than Face New Rules

On the one hand they're grovelling to London saying how they'll accept more regulation, on the other they're threatening Quebec with a pullout for the same regulations they want in London. Quebec should tell them to get stuffed.