OldLady
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You sure wouldn't be the only one, which is part of the problem with implementing the idea.I'll be making a fortune counterfeiting inoculation certificates.
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You sure wouldn't be the only one, which is part of the problem with implementing the idea.I'll be making a fortune counterfeiting inoculation certificates.
Actually, I am not even hiding it. See here:Too late.You made me reread that. 6 months should be enough, you are right.Clearly you don't live in the U.S. and haven't been completely schooled about the culture here. . . .One week might be too short. Could be a sort of a lottery whether you get your turn within that few days.Nice.Good idea, lets see how quick the needle penetrates the tinfoil.
My thing is this. Any 2 choice plank pretty much creates 4 scenarios.
You want the check but not the shot
You want the shot but not the check
You want both the shot and the check
You want neither the shot or the check
I think a winning position is this?
If the shot is made available in 1/1/2021 for example.
If you get the shot between 1/1/2021 to 6/1/2021, you get a stimulus check
After that....you can get the shot but no check.
The idea is to get the population inoculated. If it's framed that way...I think it works better. Just either/or is too coercive as far as it goes. My "no" is a soft no.
. . . a few days. . . .
That's rich. What do you think this is, Mexico?
We know you are a Russian bot now.
No one can "sign off" on stripping you of your autonomy and sovereignty but yourself.How?How do we prove we had the vaccine filling out an online application? It's a clever incentive, but #1) technically difficult to implement and #2) it will be summer, at least, before everyone can be immunized. Hopefully, they aren't waiting that long for the next stimulus check?
Screw how they are going to prove someone got the vaccine ... Where'd they get the money to write the fools a stimulus check ...
You live in a world of make believe money, that is tied to nothing more than expanding Governmental control.
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Have the healthcare professional administering the vaccine sign off.
You ought to know it by now.That's it, let your inner Stalin out. We knew it was always there.You know I put the public good first in some situations. I'd shut some people up, too. Not one bit embarrassed about it either.^^ and there it is, ladies and gentlemen.I wish there was a way we could make you, though.
You know I put the public good first in some situations. I'd shut some people up, too. Not one bit embarrassed about it either.
It has everything to do with the public good. You'll not change my mind on that, so don't waste your breath.You know I put the public good first in some situations. I'd shut some people up, too. Not one bit embarrassed about it either.
If a person has a Constitutionally protected right to decide what happens with their body ...
Then that right doesn't cease to exist at abortion, or when it becomes inconvenient for the next foolish desire.
That's the problem ... It has nothing to do with the public good, but compliance.
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That would only enable them to see who has, and who hasn't taken the vaccine, it still would not let them get around the equal protection of the law. Certain groups, both religious, and philosophical health groups, see no need for it. The government might know who they are by doing away with HIPA protections, and thus be able to administer the program, but then?Don't Taz Me is right.If you're too scared of a needle, don't take the stimulus. No one is making you get the shot.Well that didn’t take long for you people to go full fascist.Hello.
Smerconish had a great poll question on his site and I wanted to get our board's input.
Essentially it goes like this. When we have our second round of stimulus tie getting your direct payment from the Government to whether you have taken one of the vaccines. The amount being talked about is $1,500. For a family of four, that is $6,000.
www.Smerconish.comA vaccine stimulus is the shot in the arm our country needs
It is time to solve the COVID vaccine distribution problem and stimulus at the same time by giving Americans $1500 for getting vaccinated.www.usatoday.com
I wish there was a way we could make you, though.
Due to HIPA, this would be clearly Unconstitutional, it would violate equal protection laws.
Those who object based on philosophical and religious grounds are not being protected.
Then they could amend HIPA on this specific issue as part of the stimulus bill.
It has everything to do with the public good. You'll not change my mind on that, so don't waste your breath.
See, I don't see it that way at all. I see it as a ray of light in the darkness of selfishness, ignorance and hostility.It has everything to do with the public good. You'll not change my mind on that, so don't waste your breath.
I wouldn't try to change your mind, Little Stalin.
I just present alternatives to your dark foolishness.
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. . . and YOU won't change your mind on what you believe is the "public good."It has everything to do with the public good. You'll not change my mind on that, so don't waste your breath.You know I put the public good first in some situations. I'd shut some people up, too. Not one bit embarrassed about it either.
If a person has a Constitutionally protected right to decide what happens with their body ...
Then that right doesn't cease to exist at abortion, or when it becomes inconvenient for the next foolish desire.
That's the problem ... It has nothing to do with the public good, but compliance.
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See, I don't see it that way at all. I see it as a ray of light in the darkness of selfishness, ignorance and hostility.
I'll do it for $10,000,000.Nice.Good idea, lets see how quick the needle penetrates the tinfoil.
My thing is this. Any 2 choice plank pretty much creates 4 scenarios.
You want the check but not the shot
You want the shot but not the check
You want both the shot and the check
You want neither the shot or the check
I think a winning position is this?
If the shot is made available in 1/1/2021 for example.
If you get the shot between 1/1/2021 to 6/1/2021, you get a stimulus check
After that....you can get the shot but no check.
The idea is to get the population inoculated. If it's framed that way...I think it works better. Just either/or is too coercive as far as it goes. My "no" is a soft no.
Otherwise, I will ride the Valkyrie and go to Valhalla before I let ANYONE shoot that shit in me. FUCK OFF!!!
It would be relatively easy to implement. As the place you go to get your injection (clinic, Walgreens, CVS, hospital, VA, etc....) will send the information to the government.How do we prove we had the vaccine filling out an online application? It's a clever incentive, but #1) technically difficult to implement and #2) it will be summer, at least, before everyone can be immunized. Hopefully, they aren't waiting that long for the next stimulus check?nothing like a little fascist government control to brighten our holidays,,,Hello.
Smerconish had a great poll question on his site and I wanted to get our board's input.
Essentially it goes like this. When we have our second round of stimulus tie getting your direct payment from the Government to whether you have taken one of the vaccines. The amount being talked about is $1,500. For a family of four, that is $6,000.
Smerconish.com
Not sure how that is control. It's an incentive.
so says the useful idiot that would let a government pay them to take a vaccine,,,You guys are so dumb....It would be an incentive to awaken mass murderers.nothing like a little fascist government control to brighten our holidays,,,Hello.
Smerconish had a great poll question on his site and I wanted to get our board's input.
Essentially it goes like this. When we have our second round of stimulus tie getting your direct payment from the Government to whether you have taken one of the vaccines. The amount being talked about is $1,500. For a family of four, that is $6,000.
Smerconish.com
Not sure how that is control. It's an incentive.
I see plusses and minuses. I come down on the "no" side myself. But I thought it was an interesting proposition so I made the poll.Hello.
Smerconish had a great poll question on his site and I wanted to get our board's input.
Essentially it goes like this. When we have our second round of stimulus tie getting your direct payment from the Government to whether you have taken one of the vaccines. The amount being talked about is $1,500. For a family of four, that is $6,000.
www.Smerconish.comA vaccine stimulus is the shot in the arm our country needs
It is time to solve the COVID vaccine distribution problem and stimulus at the same time by giving Americans $1500 for getting vaccinated.www.usatoday.com
Seems reasonable to me.
Not sure why you would say that. We incentivize things all the time.Hello.
Smerconish had a great poll question on his site and I wanted to get our board's input.
Essentially it goes like this. When we have our second round of stimulus tie getting your direct payment from the Government to whether you have taken one of the vaccines. The amount being talked about is $1,500. For a family of four, that is $6,000.
I doubt that would be Constitutional
The way the congressman described it....it isn't a bribe to take the vaccine. Its a way to engender public health which benefits the greater good through mass vax. It will help stop the spread, the infection rates, the hospitalizations, and the deaths. If we're going to shell out another $500B-$2T in relief...doing so in a way that ensures more will get inoculated makes more sense than pushing the monies out and having another spike that we could have avoided.If you are basically having to bribe people to take one of vaccines isn't that saying you don't really have any confidence in it and make even more people not want to take it?