Two Questions re: Ukraine

[The Duke]

If Obama had stood up against Putin when he invaded and conquered Crimea, Putin would have backed down.

He didn't, though. And Putin knew that's who was running things when Biden was "president".

 

[schmidlap]

What is your plan to end the war?

My plan is to demand that Trump stop wimping out every time he blows gas at Putin, and Putin ignores the impotent lowlife.

Trump has been braying that he can end the war immediately since before he was elected.

Timeline of Trump’s promises to end Russia’s war on Ukraine​

Trump can 'crush' Russia economy if Putin avoids Ukraine talks​

 

[The Duke]

My plan is to demand that Trump stop wimping out every time he blows gas at Putin, and Putin ignores the impotent lowlife.

Trump has been braying that he can end the war immediately since before he was elected.

Timeline of Trump’s promises to end Russia’s war on Ukraine​

Trump can 'crush' Russia economy if Putin avoids Ukraine talks​

Tell me how it could be done better, there, ShitFlap.

 

[Mac1958]

My plan is to demand that Trump stop wimping out every time he blows gas at Putin, and Putin ignores the impotent lowlife.

Trump has been braying that he can end the war immediately since before he was elected.

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And he keeps sticking his ******* nose in this because he's so desperate for the Nobel.

He should either drop the TACO shit, stick to his word and stick it to Putin, or get the **** completely out of it. Military assistance, too. All of it.

Then it's up to Zelensky to decide what he can do with what remains.

Trump is prolonging this because of his ******* ego.

 

[Genevieve]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

No need for personal attacks or spin or changing the subject. Those are two clear, straightforward, and perfectly reasonable questions.

Donald Trump 'setting Zelensky up to fail' after Vladimir Putin's 'manipulation'

1. If I remember right, Putin started the war in Ukraine, but it's been a while and I am not searching for the "right" answer so.... I may be in error here. There was a solid reason for Putin to go into Ukraine.

2. Trump is doing all he can to finish that war properly. There is more at stake than what people who get their information from MSM know. Trump would NEVER advocate anyone leaving a war like Biden left Afghanistan.

 

[Mac1958]

1. If I remember right, Putin started the war in Ukraine, but it's been a while and I am not searching for the "right" answer so.... I may be in error here. There was a solid reason for Putin to go into Ukraine.

2. Trump is doing all he can to finish that war properly. There is more at stake than what people who get their information from MSM know. Trump would NEVER advocate anyone leaving a war like Biden left Afghanistan.

Trump backed out of his threat to add crippling sanctions on Russia. He should either man up and stick to his word or get us out of the conversation.

 

[j-mac]

And he keeps sticking his ******* nose in this because he's so desperate for the Nobel.

He should either drop the TACO shit, stick to his word and stick it to Putin, or get the **** completely out of it. Military assistance, too. All of it.

Then it's up to Zelensky to decide what he can do with what remains.

Trump is prolonging this because of his ******* ego.

Why don't you grow a set, and answer some of your detractors in here, YOUR OWN THREAD, or STFU....Dummy.

 

[j-mac]

Trump backed out of his threat to add crippling sanctions on Russia. He should either man up and stick to his word or get us out of the conversation.

So, you're on the side of the war continuing, and more being killed....Is that right?

 

[schmidlap]

Tell me how it could be done better, there, ShitFlap.

No, my impudent child.

If you can't imagine that your object of veneration's repeatedly wimping out on his ultimatums to Putin is the best he can possibly do, your blind faith is impervious to reason.

 

[The Duke]

No, my impudent child.

If you can't imagine that your object of veneration's repeatedly wimping out on his ultimatums to Putin is the best he can possibly do, your blind faith is impervious to reason.

No, no, no, here, Shitbag. What's the better plan that you have, huh?
Imagine what your plan that would work would do, and tell us what it is.
And I am certainly not your child, boy.
For one thing, I done buried both my parents.

 

[Robert W]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

No need for personal attacks or spin or changing the subject. Those are two clear, straightforward, and perfectly reasonable questions.

Donald Trump 'setting Zelensky up to fail' after Vladimir Putin's 'manipulation'

1. Putin started the war.
2. Not being Trump, only a fool tries to deal with Question 2.

 

[j-mac]

No, my impudent child.

If you can't imagine that your object of veneration's repeatedly wimping out on his ultimatums to Putin is the best he can possibly do, your blind faith is impervious to reason.

Another "Lion of the left" in his own mind.....

 

[schmidlap]

And he keeps sticking his ******* nose in this because he's so desperate for the Nobel.

He should either drop the TACO shit, stick to his word and stick it to Putin, or get the **** completely out of it. Military assistance, too. All of it.

Then it's up to Zelensky to decide what he can do with what remains.

Trump is prolonging this because of his ******* ego.

I find it amusing that I strongly recommend that Trump do precisely what he has repeatedly claimed he would do, and his butt barnacles get pissy for my advocacy of his stated intent.

Trump can 'crush' Russia economy if Putin avoids Ukraine talks​

Trump warns of ‘severe consequences’ if Russia doesn’t stop Ukraine war after Putin meeting​

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Not a republican but couldn't resist:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

europeans

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

He is concerned not at all, this war, like the white house humiliation of Zelenski is to serve as a reminder to Zelenski that he was the one who chose sides during "the perfect phone call" hoax...
...well there's your two answers with all the needless guidelines [and implicit accusations] followed.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump can 'crush' Russia economy if Putin avoids Ukraine talks
Trump warns of ‘severe consequences’ if Russia doesn’t stop Ukraine war after Putin meeting

^^^The rubes keep asking the non-rubes what should be done, as if the answer isn't obvious.^^^

Simple: Trump should back up his words and stop being a TACO. But they don't like that idea. Which is weird. Because it was their hero's, in his embarrassing quest of the Nobel. HE brought it up.

So, while their hero is prolonging the killing by not backing up his words, they're accusing OTHERS of not wanting to stop the killing.

Standard blame-shifting dumbfuckery.

 

[Old Rocks]

Two questions for Leftists.

One, if the US didn't embargo oil to Japan, would they have bombed Pearl Harbor?

The Path to Pearl Harbor

On December 7, 1941, Japan staged a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, decimating the US Pacific Fleet. When Germany and Italy declared war on the United States days later, America found itself in a global war.

www.nationalww2museum.org

Two, are you going to send your kids to fight Putin and save Ukraine?

Two questions for Leftists.

One, if the US didn't embargo oil to Japan, would they have bombed Pearl Harbor?

The Path to Pearl Harbor

On December 7, 1941, Japan staged a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, decimating the US Pacific Fleet. When Germany and Italy declared war on the United States days later, America found itself in a global war.

www.nationalww2museum.org

Two, are you going to send your kids to fight Putin and save Ukraine?

If Trump forces Ukraine to give up territory, allows Putin to declare victory, then my grandsons will almost certainly be fighting in a European war when Russia decides to take the rest of Ukraine, and the European nations intervene. You cowardly MAGAts seem not to have learned the lesson of Sudentenland.

 

[Mac1958]

You cowardly MAGAts seem not to have learned the lesson of Sudentenland.

They clearly have no macro understanding of world history. They clearly have no ability to put two and two together. They've already proven that.

They're in love.

 

[AlexanderPK]

If Trump forces Ukraine to give up territory, allows Putin to declare victory, then my grandsons will almost certainly be fighting in a European war when Russia decides to take the rest of Ukraine, and the European nations intervene. You cowardly MAGAts seem not to have learned the lesson of Sudentenland.

Shut up, moron, better go change the diaper. You may have soiled one shouting too loud.

 

[Correll]

The Ukranians don't feel defending their nation against Russian invasion and conquest isn't "nothing", but everything. The Confederacy fought for years to defend itself, China fought foe over a decade to defend itself against Japanese conquest, Indochina fought for nearly a decade against French reconquest, South Vietnam fought for a decade to prevent North Vietnamese conquest, shall I go on?

Here we see the lib tactic of circular debating.

I successfully addressed the last point raised, but instead of conceed that point, a lib comes along and moves the discussion to another point.


This way the discussion is effectively... ended. Nothing is really discussed. If no one every conceeds a point, then the discussion is frozen.

It looks like speech is occurring, but it is just moving back and forth over the same ground, ALWAYS avoiding the core issues and never conceeding any points.


And all the while the war continues, and people die in large numbers.


Which seems to be the goal. For reasons that the pro-war side doesn't want to share.

 

[Hafar1014]

Nice punt. Your claim was that Biden suppressed oil production. Facts proved you wrong and then you say "increases don't matter"......ha! The Oil Patch continues it's increase after the covid bubble, like is has since Obama was president.

Biden campaigned fighting oil

Biden suspends oil and gas leasing in slew of executive actions on climate change

Biden's orders will halt oil and natural gas leases on public lands and waters in an effort to curb planet-warming carbon emissions.

www.cnbc.com

oday, the Biden administration announced a final rule that will impose new and increasing fees and regulatory burdens on American energy producers on federal lands. This will have a devastating effect on small businesses and will ultimately increase energy costs for American consumers.

Earlier this week, the Biden administration also issued a rulemaking to reduce fees nationwide on renewable energy, showing that they have fully embraced the radical Green New Deal agenda.

The U.S. House of Representatives recently observed Energy Week by passing a slate of legislation to support domestic energy production and lower energy costs for American consumers. Among the energy bills passed out of the House were two important pieces of legislation from the Natural Resources Committee: U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert’s (R-Colo.) Restoring Energy Dominance Act and U.S. Rep. Jeff Duncan’s (R-S.C.) Protecting American Energy Production Act. These two bills are key parts of Republicans’ ongoing work to support American energy production and energy independence.

Since taking office, President Joe Biden has taken unprecedented steps to cripple American energy production and cede control of the global market to our adversaries. Starting on day one, the Biden administration revoked the Keystone XL pipeline permit, killing thousands of American jobs and making us more reliant on foreign energy sources. The president also imposed an indefinite pause on new oil and natural gas leasing on U.S. federal lands and waters and did not hold an onshore lease sale for a year and a half.

In September 2023, the administration canceled seven oil and gas leases on the North Slope of Alaska and locked up millions of acres in the National Petroleum Reserve. Biden’s DOI is also responsible for the worst five-year offshore leasing plan in history, which contained the fewest lease sales since the start of the program and was issued over a year late.

To learn more about the committee’s ongoing work to support American energy production, click here.