Two Questions re: Ukraine

[Mac1958]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

No need for personal attacks or spin or changing the subject. Those are two clear, straightforward, and perfectly reasonable questions.

Donald Trump 'setting Zelensky up to fail' after Vladimir Putin's 'manipulation'

 

[Missourian]

Two questions for Leftists.

One, if the US didn't embargo oil to Japan, would they have bombed Pearl Harbor?

The Path to Pearl Harbor

On December 7, 1941, Japan staged a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, decimating the US Pacific Fleet. When Germany and Italy declared war on the United States days later, America found itself in a global war.

www.nationalww2museum.org

Two, are you going to send your kids to fight Putin and save Ukraine?

 

[GLASNOST]

Two political questions for one political party:

OK.

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

"War"? Has anyone declared war? Are you talking about "the problem" that has lead to military conflict or who was the first one to employ their military?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives,

... yes ......

why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

What gives you the impression that "getting Putin out of Ukraine" would end the problem that has lead to the military conflict in Ukraine? Also, is it your notion that "saving lives" is defined by saving.
1). Ukrainian lives?
2). Russian lives?
3). Ukrainian lives of Russian ethnicity?
4). All of the above?

I support Trump so I suppose you are asking me as though you consider me a Republican. So OK, I'll answer your question straight up. Trump cannot force Zoolinsky to implement the terms set out by several international agreements which have Ukraine's own signature upon them. Do you think that's Trump's job? Do you think it should be his job?

 

[Mac1958]

Okay, now maybe we can get straight answers to my direct questions.

Instead of questions trying to change the subject.

 

[Kondor3]

From an Independent rather than a Republican...

1. Russia started it

2. Because he is unwilling to go up against Putin much as Chamberlain was unwilling to go up against Hitler

 

[GLASNOST]

Okay, now maybe we can get straight answers to my direct questions.

OK.

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

There is no war in Ukraine. None has been declared.

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

Getting Putin out of Ukraine would not saves lives. Are you now satisfied with my answers?

 

[Mac1958]

OK.

There is no war in Ukraine. None has been declared.

Getting Putin out of Ukraine would not saves lives.

Wow.

Okay, got it.

 

[GLASNOST]

OK.

There is no war in Ukraine. None has been declared.

Getting Putin out of Ukraine would not saves lives. Are you now satisfied with my answers?

Wow.

Okay, got it.

Wow.

Okay, finally you got it.

 

[JGalt]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

No need for personal attacks or spin or changing the subject. Those are two clear, straightforward, and perfectly reasonable questions.

Donald Trump 'setting Zelensky up to fail' after Vladimir Putin's 'manipulation'

Aside from continuing to finance the continuation of the war in Ukraine, or escalating it into a world war, how would you suggest ending it? Putin is not going to pull up stakes and leave Ukraine. That would make him extremely unpopular with the Russian people, especially after so many of them have been killed. Russia's war in Ukraine is nothing like their previous involvement in Afghanistan or Syria, because it's taking place directly across their border. So I don't see them relinquishing any territory in Ukraine.

 

[Missourian]

Okay, now maybe we can get straight answers to my direct questions.

Instead of questions trying to change the subject.

What justification did the United States have to attempt to overthrow Castro?

What justification did the US have to blockade the country of Cuba?

I know WHY we did it.

I even approve of it.

But what right did we have to meddle in the affairs of a sovereign country other than it was on our border and we wanted to keep our enemy out of there.

 

[Mac1958]

So now there is no war, getting Russia out of Ukraine wouldn't save any lives, and we're talking about Cuba.

Well, this is going about as I expected.

 

[GLASNOST]

.... how would you suggest ending it?

Now we're getting somewhere.

Putin ..... I don't see .... relinquishing any territory in Ukraine.

Not any territory that he set out to subdue, no.

 

[GLASNOST]

So now there is no war, getting Russia out of Ukraine wouldn't save any lives, and we're talking about Cuba.

Present you notion of the resemblance with Cuba.

 

[Mac1958]

From an Independent rather than a Republican...

1. Russia started it

2. Because he is unwilling to go up against Putin much as Chamberlain was unwilling to go up against Hitler

I also have no doubt he wants to protect his current and future business interests with Russia.

All he has to do is tell Putin that he'll work with Europe and cripple Russia with more sanctions and secondary sanctions. Russia is already on the edge. He has the knockout punch in his pocket, and he could save a huge amount of lives. But he won't do it.

That can't be spun away.

 

[Dorian Mode]

This horse has been beaten to death many times over. You're basically asking "Why doesn't Russia give US everything WE want? We have them surrounded with NATO, why don't they just give up and let US have all their natural resources that WE have coveted for over a century?"

Switch the players around and imagine the US was surrounded by The East. What would America do? The exact same thing Russia is doing today.

 

[GLASNOST]

.... Russia is already on the edge.

No, it isn't.

That can't be spun away.

Then why do you keep trying?

 

[Mac1958]

No, it isn't.

Then why do you keep trying?

Because I like seeing you people confirm my opinions for me.

If you don't like that, too bad. I wasn't posting to you.

 

[Dorian Mode]

OK.

"War"? Has anyone declared war? Are you talking about "the problem" that has lead to military conflict or who was the first one to employ their military?

... yes ......

What gives you the impression that "getting Putin out of Ukraine" would end the problem that has lead to the military conflict in Ukraine? Also, is it your notion that "saving lives" is defined by saving.
1). Ukrainian lives?
2). Russian lives?
3). Ukrainian lives of Russian ethnicity?
4). All of the above?

I support Trump so I suppose you are asking me as though you consider me a Republican. So OK, I'll answer your question straight up. Trump cannot force Zoolinsky to implement the terms set out by several international agreements which have Ukraine's own signature upon them. Do you think that's Trump's job? Do you think it should be his job?

These neo-leftists here have absolutely no idea how the world really works. They have absolutely no idea how their own government really works. Neo-leftists are only interested in things that give them an emotional charge, yet the world is run by people who could care less about emotions and are only interest in obtaining more wealth and power.

 

[GLASNOST]

What justification did the United States have to attempt to overthrow Castro?

What justification did the US have to blockade the country of Cuba?

I know WHY we did it.

I even approve of it.

But what right did we have to meddle in the affairs of a sovereign country other than it was on our border and we wanted to keep our enemy out of there.

The chicken or the egg.

1). American missiles in Turkey pre-sighted to Russian.
2). Russian missiles in Cuba pre-sighted to the US.

*** Which was first? Ask me, I know the correct answer!

 

[GLASNOST]

These neo-leftists here have absolutely no idea how the world really works.

No idea at all.