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The wife and I played hooky from work today and we were one of her favorite daytime shows; The View. The show had Jesse Ventura and then they had these two actors from a movie that is about to be release called "Twelve Years A Slave", it's based on a published narrative from Solomon Northrup, who was a free Black man living in New York and was kidnapped and sold into slavery.
I looked it up because the story sounded interesting, I think that he gave a balanced narrative on that condition. Here's a wiki reference to it if anyone is interested in reading it:
12 Years a Slave (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here's the actual memoirs, the docsouth link is a goldmine to find out and read memoirs, books, letters, etc. from that time period:
Solomon Northup. Twelve Years a Slave: Narrative ofSolomon Northup, a Citizen of New-York, Kidnapped in Washington City in1841, and Rescued in 1853.
I found this excerpt quite interesting, it's between a white caprpenter named Bass and the slave's master named Epps:
"But this question of Slavery; what right have you to your ******* when you come down to the point?"
"What right!" said Epps, laughing; "why, I bought 'em, and paid for 'em."
Of course you did; the law says you have the right to hold a ******, but begging the law's pardon, it lies. Yes, Epps, when the law says that it's a liar, and the truth is not in it. Is every thing right because the law allows it? Suppose they'd pass a law taking away your liberty and making you a slave?"
"Oh, that ain't a supposable case," said Epps, still laughing; "hope you don't compare me to a ******, Bass."
"Well," Bass answered gravely, "no, not exactly. But I have seen ******* before now as good as I am, and I have no acquaintance with any white man in these parts that I consider a whit better than myself. Now, in the sight of God, what is the difference, Epps, between a white man and a black one?"
"All the difference in the world," replied Epps. "You might as well ask what the difference is between
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a white man and a baboon. Now, I've seen one of them critters in Orleans that knowed just as much as any ****** I've got. You'd call them feller citizens, I s'pose?"and Epps indulged in a loud laugh at his own wit.
"Look here, Epps," continued his companion; "you can't laugh me down in that way. Some men are witty, and some ain't so witty as they think they are. Now let me ask you a question. Are all men created free and equal as the Declaration of Independence holds they are?"
"Yes," responded Epps, "but all men, *******, and monkeys ain't;" and hereupon he broke forth into a more boisterous laugh than before.
"There are monkeys among white people as well as black, when you come to that," coolly remarked Bass. "I know some white men that use arguments no sensible monkey would. But let that pass. These ******* are human beings. If they don't know as much as their masters, whose fault is it? They are not allowed to know anything. You have books and papers, and can go where you please, and gather intelligence in a thousand ways. But your slaves have no privileges. You'd whip one of them if caught reading a book. They are held in bondage, generation after generation, deprived of mental improvement, and who can expect them to possess much knowledge? If they are not brought down to a level with the brute creation, you slaveholders will never be blamed for it. If they are baboons, or stand no
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higher in the scale of intelligence than such animals, you and men like you will have to answer for it. There's a sin, a fearful sin, resting on this nation, that will not go unpunished forever. There will be a reckoning yetyes, Epps, there's a day coming that will burn as an oven. It may be sooner or it may be later, but it's a coming as sure as the Lord is just."
"If you lived up among the Yankees in New-England," said Epps, "I expect you'd be one of them cursed fanatics that know more than the constitution, and go about peddling clocks and coaxing ******* to run away."
"If I was in New-England," returned Bass, "I would be just what I am here. I would say that Slavery was an iniquity, and ought to be abolished. I would say there was no reason nor justice in the law, or the constitution that allows one man to hold another man in bondage. It would be hard for you to lose your property, to be sure, but it wouldn't be half as hard as it would be to lose your liberty. You have no more right to your freedom, in exact justice, than Uncle Abram yonder. Talk about black skin, and black blood; why, how many slaves are there on this bayou as white as either of us? And what difference is there in the color of the soul? Pshaw! the whole system is as absurd as it is cruel. You may own ******* and behanged, but I wouldn't own one for the best plantation in Louisiana."
I looked it up because the story sounded interesting, I think that he gave a balanced narrative on that condition. Here's a wiki reference to it if anyone is interested in reading it:
12 Years a Slave (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here's the actual memoirs, the docsouth link is a goldmine to find out and read memoirs, books, letters, etc. from that time period:
Solomon Northup. Twelve Years a Slave: Narrative ofSolomon Northup, a Citizen of New-York, Kidnapped in Washington City in1841, and Rescued in 1853.
I found this excerpt quite interesting, it's between a white caprpenter named Bass and the slave's master named Epps:
"But this question of Slavery; what right have you to your ******* when you come down to the point?"
"What right!" said Epps, laughing; "why, I bought 'em, and paid for 'em."
Of course you did; the law says you have the right to hold a ******, but begging the law's pardon, it lies. Yes, Epps, when the law says that it's a liar, and the truth is not in it. Is every thing right because the law allows it? Suppose they'd pass a law taking away your liberty and making you a slave?"
"Oh, that ain't a supposable case," said Epps, still laughing; "hope you don't compare me to a ******, Bass."
"Well," Bass answered gravely, "no, not exactly. But I have seen ******* before now as good as I am, and I have no acquaintance with any white man in these parts that I consider a whit better than myself. Now, in the sight of God, what is the difference, Epps, between a white man and a black one?"
"All the difference in the world," replied Epps. "You might as well ask what the difference is between
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a white man and a baboon. Now, I've seen one of them critters in Orleans that knowed just as much as any ****** I've got. You'd call them feller citizens, I s'pose?"and Epps indulged in a loud laugh at his own wit.
"Look here, Epps," continued his companion; "you can't laugh me down in that way. Some men are witty, and some ain't so witty as they think they are. Now let me ask you a question. Are all men created free and equal as the Declaration of Independence holds they are?"
"Yes," responded Epps, "but all men, *******, and monkeys ain't;" and hereupon he broke forth into a more boisterous laugh than before.
"There are monkeys among white people as well as black, when you come to that," coolly remarked Bass. "I know some white men that use arguments no sensible monkey would. But let that pass. These ******* are human beings. If they don't know as much as their masters, whose fault is it? They are not allowed to know anything. You have books and papers, and can go where you please, and gather intelligence in a thousand ways. But your slaves have no privileges. You'd whip one of them if caught reading a book. They are held in bondage, generation after generation, deprived of mental improvement, and who can expect them to possess much knowledge? If they are not brought down to a level with the brute creation, you slaveholders will never be blamed for it. If they are baboons, or stand no
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higher in the scale of intelligence than such animals, you and men like you will have to answer for it. There's a sin, a fearful sin, resting on this nation, that will not go unpunished forever. There will be a reckoning yetyes, Epps, there's a day coming that will burn as an oven. It may be sooner or it may be later, but it's a coming as sure as the Lord is just."
"If you lived up among the Yankees in New-England," said Epps, "I expect you'd be one of them cursed fanatics that know more than the constitution, and go about peddling clocks and coaxing ******* to run away."
"If I was in New-England," returned Bass, "I would be just what I am here. I would say that Slavery was an iniquity, and ought to be abolished. I would say there was no reason nor justice in the law, or the constitution that allows one man to hold another man in bondage. It would be hard for you to lose your property, to be sure, but it wouldn't be half as hard as it would be to lose your liberty. You have no more right to your freedom, in exact justice, than Uncle Abram yonder. Talk about black skin, and black blood; why, how many slaves are there on this bayou as white as either of us? And what difference is there in the color of the soul? Pshaw! the whole system is as absurd as it is cruel. You may own ******* and behanged, but I wouldn't own one for the best plantation in Louisiana."
