Turkey warns IAF against using airspace

[ekrem]

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Responding to a question concerning rumors that Israel had entered Turkey's airspace for espionage purposes, Erdogan said that such a thing had never happened, but that the consequences would be dire if it did.

"[Israel] will receive a response equal to that of an earthquake," he cautioned, urging Israel's leaders to refrain from "using the relationship they have with [Turkey] as a card to wage aggression on a third party."

Ankara would not be a neutral party and stand aside with its arms folded, he said.
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PM of Turkey says Israel can't use country's airspace freely | International News | Jerusalem Post

 

[uscitizen]

Good. Israel should not be allowed to invade others airspace. They get upset if someone invades theirs.

 

[jillian]

Good. Israel should not be allowed to invade others airspace. They get upset if someone invades theirs.

cause when other countries go over israeli air space, they tend to drop bombs on them.

but why deal in facts if you can do the whole anti-israel jig.

 

[jillian]

hey ekrem, i'm going to be in istanbul... any good restaurants to recommend?

 

[ekrem]

hey ekrem, i'm going to be in istanbul... any good restaurants to recommend?

I think it is dependent on your budget and I am no Istanbul expert, i live about 1.000 km east of her Greatness.

 

[Charles Stucker]

Good. Israel should not be allowed to invade others airspace. They get upset if someone invades theirs.

cause when other countries go over israeli air space, they tend to drop bombs on them.

The Turks have a legitimate right to keep out Israeli, or any other nation's, military aircraft. So does any other sovereign nation.
If the Turks fire at Israeli military planes in their airspace they will be within their rights - specifics of position and warnings may make it more or less palatable to the casual observer.

 

[uscitizen]

Good. Israel should not be allowed to invade others airspace. They get upset if someone invades theirs.

cause when other countries go over israeli air space, they tend to drop bombs on them.

but why deal in facts if you can do the whole anti-israel jig.

HUH? I think history shows that Israel tends to drop most of the bombs on others.

 

[ekrem]

The Turks have a legitimate right to keep out Israeli, or any other nation's, military aircraft. So does any other sovereign nation.
If the Turks fire at Israeli military planes in their airspace they will be within their rights - specifics of position and warnings may make it more or less palatable to the casual observer.

The Israelis do have the capability to enter Turkish airspace, and there is a high chance of Israelian Aircrafts or drones leaving the airspace undamaged, in the case of missile-based interception as Turkish anti-aircraft umbrella is in process of being modernized in 3 categories:
Savunma Sanayii Müsteşarlığı
Savunma Sanayii Müsteşarlığı
English part of Procurement Authority Website is currently under modernization so Link to High Altitude Ballistic Missiles is currently not available, but somewhere on usmessageboard must be a thread 2 months old describing that US PAC-3 missile is likeliest candidate in that 7,8 billion $ tender.

Current hardware of antiaircraft missile umbrella is mostly leftover from USA from 1960's.

In aircraft to aircraft interception the chance of getting Israelian Aircrafts out of Turkish Airspace undamaged decreases dramatically.
In all those radar and electronical stuff Turkey is potent, and anything from Israel entering Turkey will get recognized. But that is not the point as after this announcement nothing will enter Turkey and as a sideline Turkey announces in general its view of Israel attacking Iranian facilities.

Unauthorized intrusion is disrespecting the sovereignity of that nation and a casus-belli.
This is off-course only talk, no doubt about that. Also it is not everything about aircrafts and missiles but combined firepower from all subdivision of Army. Then comes the financing of all this in a conventional material war.
Instrumentalizing both against a nation within our reach is something to avoid for those within that reach.

 

[The Rabbi]

Alternatively the Turks are issueing strong public statements while winking at it in private. Turkey has a Jewish population, they have always gotten along with Israel, to the best of my knowledge, and they face their own insurrection from terrorists.

 

[jillian]

hey ekrem, i'm going to be in istanbul... any good restaurants to recommend?

I think it is dependent on your budget and I am no Istanbul expert, i live about 1.000 km east of her Greatness.

lol.. sorry. i guess that's like asking me what's good in idaho.

thanks for answering anyway.

 

[jillian]

Good. Israel should not be allowed to invade others airspace. They get upset if someone invades theirs.

cause when other countries go over israeli air space, they tend to drop bombs on them.

but why deal in facts if you can do the whole anti-israel jig.

HUH? I think history shows that Israel tends to drop most of the bombs on others.

AFTER being attacked by other countries.... you know, like Syria... Lebanon.... Egypt...

funny how those countries don't drop bombs any more.

Now if the terrorists would just stop, I'm figuring that Israel would manage to live in peace with them like they do Egypt and Jordan.

Bummer for you that Israel doesn't just die when people attack it.

 

[jillian]

Alternatively the Turks are issueing strong public statements while winking at it in private. Turkey has a Jewish population, they have always gotten along with Israel, to the best of my knowledge, and they face their own insurrection from terrorists.

That's true. The moderate countries in the region all have to deal with their own lunatic fringes.

 

[Gunny]

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Responding to a question concerning rumors that Israel had entered Turkey's airspace for espionage purposes, Erdogan said that such a thing had never happened, but that the consequences would be dire if it did.

"[Israel] will receive a response equal to that of an earthquake," he cautioned, urging Israel's leaders to refrain from "using the relationship they have with [Turkey] as a card to wage aggression on a third party."

Ankara would not be a neutral party and stand aside with its arms folded, he said.
(...)
PM of Turkey says Israel can't use country's airspace freely | International News | Jerusalem Post

Posturing. Turks have never got over the Ottoman Empire. They like to pretend they didn't get their asses whipped. Of course had they not, Israel wouldn't exist.

 

[Saladin]

Such will be the consequence of the imperialistic aggression in the affairs of others that regimes of that ill-conceived and ill-fated blot on the world map have routinely engaged in. Israel survives because Israel is the junior partner of USrael.