Tulsa Police Sergeant Killed When Nonlethal Force Returned with Gunfire

[BasicHumanUnit]

If not stopped ....

The Left will have the entire US looking like Chicago.

And anyone who thinks for one second they won't take your guns in the process is simply naive

 

[Augustine_]

Irrelevant. He can claim he was in fear of his life.

I'm sure he will make that claim when on trial for murder in the first degree. Let's see what good it does him.

It does pretty well for most

 

[pknopp]

I'm not sure that addressed my point. Well, I know it didnt.

It addressed everything the situation presented. The police can (A) simply start writing tickets for every sort
of traffic violation to avoid getting shot or (B) try to enforce the laws as written.
Figure it out, smart guy.

The law gives him the option. People get pulled over all the time for expired this or that and their car doesn't get towed. All the same, take my argument as saying we need to change the laws.

 

[pknopp]

Timothy Loehmans life was never in peril either.

Who is that? And why does it matter?

It was a reply in a discussion.

 

[depotoo]

Write him a ticket and be on your way. Losing your life and the costs of incarcerating a man for life is not worth the few extra dollars a city gets in impound fee's.

The cop doesn't write the rules they enforce them

He has the option.

For all we know he may have already received several warning tickets already. Most dept’s have a limit.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Anyone else see the consistent theme here?

Most on the Left are OK with cop killers, widespread violence and murder. Shocking, isn't it? (nope)

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

It was a reply in a discussion.

Not really. I asked WHO is that? Not what is that? Learn to read at a grade school level if you want to
participate.

 

[pknopp]

It was a reply in a discussion.

Not really. I asked WHO is that? Not what is that? Learn to read at a grade school level if you want to
participate.

Look him up.

 

[harmonica]

Tulsa Police Sergeant Killed When Nonlethal Force Returned with Gunfire

Tulsa Police Sergeant Killed When Nonlethal Force Returned with Gunfire

townhall.com

5 Jul 2020 ~~ By Leah Barkoukis
A Tulsa police sergeant died Tuesday after being shot multiple times during a traffic stop.
Sgt. Craig Johnson, 45, came to provide backup assistance to another officer who pulled over David Anthony Ware, 33, for an expired paper license. The suspect would not get out of the vehicle when officers said it would have to be towed, and that's when things escalated.

Despite Johnson trying to use nonlethal force—the suspect pulled a gun on him and another officer.A struggle ensued, in which Sergeant Johnson fired his Taser at Mr. Ware, who removed the stun gun’s prongs from his body. Sergeant Johnson then used pepper spray on Mr. Ware, who pulled out a handgun and fired several rounds at the officers as they removed him from the car, the chief said.​

The condition of the other officer, Aurash Zarkeshan, 26, who had just finished training in May and had been on patrol for about six weeks, was described on Monday as critical. The Tulsa Fraternal Order of Police referred questions on Tuesday about Officer Zarkeshan’s condition to the Police Department, which did not give an update.
Armin Zarkeshan, Officer Zarkeshan’s brother, said in a brief interview on Tuesday night that the officer was “doing better.”
Mr. Ware was arrested later on Monday and was charged with first-degree murder, shooting with intent to kill and unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon, the authorities said. (The New York Times)

~~Snip~~
The shooting comes as anti-police brutality protests sweep the nation in the wake of George Floyd's death in police custody. Calls to defund the police are also gaining steam, with New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announcing $1 billion in cuts to the NYPD. In Minneapolis, the city council has also moved to defund the police.


Comment:
Although the Biased media has buried this story deep in their pages, the fact remains that the actions of the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Leftist funded terrorists has placed our Law Enforcement officers in jeopardy.
As reported here career criminals and terrorists have attacked LEO's and claim that police are at fault. Not so...
This blood is on the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left, JoeB biden and the other assclowns that have gotten the LEOs to second guess their every decision now. Won't be long before most of the LEOs institute the FIDO rule. "F**k It Drive On" when responding to an incident.
PMS/DSA Democrat Mayors that propose defunding their city's police forces place the lives of it's citizens in the hands of mob rule of the marxist Left and we have seen where that went in Europe, Russia, China, Cuba and Venezuela. But they keep telling us this time will be different.
Imagine having to deal with bizarre homicidal maniacs like the thing shown here daily.
Then knowing that delusional weaklings like the mayors of Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago, NYC do not have your backs.
Indeed, they favor those attacking you.
When is the #Blue Lives Matter marches and demostrations to begin?
Meanwhile the casualty statistics of Black on Black stootings and murders continues to rise.

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police make 10 MILLION arrests per year
.there are MILLIONS more contacts with police
..and MILLIONS more traffic stops
= there is not a problem of police brutality

 

[pknopp]

Anyone else see the consistent theme here?

Most on the Left are OK with cop killers, widespread violence and murder. Shocking, isn't it? (nope)

Did someone mention or even suggest that he shouldn't go to prison? There are a lot of people against the system that leads to people being killed.

The police shouldn't be tax enforcers.

 

[Gdjjr]

What's wrong with a paper tag?

 

[harmonica]

Write him a ticket and be on your way. Losing your life and the costs of incarcerating a man for life is not worth the few extra dollars a city gets in impound fee's.

let people commit crimes--you are a genius !!!

 

[pknopp]

Tulsa Police Sergeant Killed When Nonlethal Force Returned with Gunfire

Tulsa Police Sergeant Killed When Nonlethal Force Returned with Gunfire

townhall.com

5 Jul 2020 ~~ By Leah Barkoukis
A Tulsa police sergeant died Tuesday after being shot multiple times during a traffic stop.
Sgt. Craig Johnson, 45, came to provide backup assistance to another officer who pulled over David Anthony Ware, 33, for an expired paper license. The suspect would not get out of the vehicle when officers said it would have to be towed, and that's when things escalated.

Despite Johnson trying to use nonlethal force—the suspect pulled a gun on him and another officer.A struggle ensued, in which Sergeant Johnson fired his Taser at Mr. Ware, who removed the stun gun’s prongs from his body. Sergeant Johnson then used pepper spray on Mr. Ware, who pulled out a handgun and fired several rounds at the officers as they removed him from the car, the chief said.​

The condition of the other officer, Aurash Zarkeshan, 26, who had just finished training in May and had been on patrol for about six weeks, was described on Monday as critical. The Tulsa Fraternal Order of Police referred questions on Tuesday about Officer Zarkeshan’s condition to the Police Department, which did not give an update.
Armin Zarkeshan, Officer Zarkeshan’s brother, said in a brief interview on Tuesday night that the officer was “doing better.”
Mr. Ware was arrested later on Monday and was charged with first-degree murder, shooting with intent to kill and unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon, the authorities said. (The New York Times)

~~Snip~~
The shooting comes as anti-police brutality protests sweep the nation in the wake of George Floyd's death in police custody. Calls to defund the police are also gaining steam, with New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announcing $1 billion in cuts to the NYPD. In Minneapolis, the city council has also moved to defund the police.


Comment:
Although the Biased media has buried this story deep in their pages, the fact remains that the actions of the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Leftist funded terrorists has placed our Law Enforcement officers in jeopardy.
As reported here career criminals and terrorists have attacked LEO's and claim that police are at fault. Not so...
This blood is on the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left, JoeB biden and the other assclowns that have gotten the LEOs to second guess their every decision now. Won't be long before most of the LEOs institute the FIDO rule. "F**k It Drive On" when responding to an incident.
PMS/DSA Democrat Mayors that propose defunding their city's police forces place the lives of it's citizens in the hands of mob rule of the marxist Left and we have seen where that went in Europe, Russia, China, Cuba and Venezuela. But they keep telling us this time will be different.
Imagine having to deal with bizarre homicidal maniacs like the thing shown here daily.
Then knowing that delusional weaklings like the mayors of Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago, NYC do not have your backs.
Indeed, they favor those attacking you.
When is the #Blue Lives Matter marches and demostrations to begin?
Meanwhile the casualty statistics of Black on Black stootings and murders continues to rise.

104 people shot, 14 dead over weekend in Chicago

More than 100 people were shot in Chicago over the Father’s Day weekend and at least 14 of them died, marking the most violent weekend in the city so far this year.The Chicago Sun-T…

thehill.com

Dozens shot, at least three killed on violent July 4th weekend in NYC: cops

Nearly 40 people were shot across New York City from the Fourth of July into early Sunday — including several fatalities, police sources said.

nypost.com

police make 10 MILLION arrests per year
.there are MILLIONS more contacts with police
..and MILLIONS more traffic stops
= there is not a problem of police brutality

None of that excuses things when it does happen. There are millions and millions of bank transactions every year. Do we excuse those who rob a bank because of that?

 

[Gdjjr]

there is not a problem of police brutality

One murder, under the color of law, is too many.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

The police shouldn't be tax enforcers

They arent free to pick and choose.

If you dont like it, quit voting in greedy Democrats

 

[Gdjjr]

let people commit crimes

Let idiots educated beyond their intellect decide it's criminal to have a paper tag.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

The law gives him the option. People get pulled over all the time for expired this or that and their car doesn't get towed. All the same, take my argument as saying we need to change the laws.

When there is a question of ownership or legality of the driver that can't be addressed by simply writing a ticket.
When a driver is requested to exit the vehicle and he refuses ticket time is over. Your "arguments" are
absurd and totally ill-informed.

Stop being a dumb shit, if you can help it at all.

 

[pknopp]

What's wrong with a paper tag?

It expires.......here is the problem right now.......it's difficult or has been difficult to get appointments or into the DMV right now. We have yearly state inspections. The governor stated that people should be allowed to slide on them.

 

[harmonica]

Tulsa Police Sergeant Killed When Nonlethal Force Returned with Gunfire

Tulsa Police Sergeant Killed When Nonlethal Force Returned with Gunfire

townhall.com

5 Jul 2020 ~~ By Leah Barkoukis
A Tulsa police sergeant died Tuesday after being shot multiple times during a traffic stop.
Sgt. Craig Johnson, 45, came to provide backup assistance to another officer who pulled over David Anthony Ware, 33, for an expired paper license. The suspect would not get out of the vehicle when officers said it would have to be towed, and that's when things escalated.

Despite Johnson trying to use nonlethal force—the suspect pulled a gun on him and another officer.A struggle ensued, in which Sergeant Johnson fired his Taser at Mr. Ware, who removed the stun gun’s prongs from his body. Sergeant Johnson then used pepper spray on Mr. Ware, who pulled out a handgun and fired several rounds at the officers as they removed him from the car, the chief said.​

The condition of the other officer, Aurash Zarkeshan, 26, who had just finished training in May and had been on patrol for about six weeks, was described on Monday as critical. The Tulsa Fraternal Order of Police referred questions on Tuesday about Officer Zarkeshan’s condition to the Police Department, which did not give an update.
Armin Zarkeshan, Officer Zarkeshan’s brother, said in a brief interview on Tuesday night that the officer was “doing better.”
Mr. Ware was arrested later on Monday and was charged with first-degree murder, shooting with intent to kill and unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon, the authorities said. (The New York Times)

~~Snip~~
The shooting comes as anti-police brutality protests sweep the nation in the wake of George Floyd's death in police custody. Calls to defund the police are also gaining steam, with New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announcing $1 billion in cuts to the NYPD. In Minneapolis, the city council has also moved to defund the police.


Comment:
Although the Biased media has buried this story deep in their pages, the fact remains that the actions of the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Leftist funded terrorists has placed our Law Enforcement officers in jeopardy.
As reported here career criminals and terrorists have attacked LEO's and claim that police are at fault. Not so...
This blood is on the Progressive Marxist Socialist/DSA Democrat Left, JoeB biden and the other assclowns that have gotten the LEOs to second guess their every decision now. Won't be long before most of the LEOs institute the FIDO rule. "F**k It Drive On" when responding to an incident.
PMS/DSA Democrat Mayors that propose defunding their city's police forces place the lives of it's citizens in the hands of mob rule of the marxist Left and we have seen where that went in Europe, Russia, China, Cuba and Venezuela. But they keep telling us this time will be different.
Imagine having to deal with bizarre homicidal maniacs like the thing shown here daily.
Then knowing that delusional weaklings like the mayors of Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago, NYC do not have your backs.
Indeed, they favor those attacking you.
When is the #Blue Lives Matter marches and demostrations to begin?
Meanwhile the casualty statistics of Black on Black stootings and murders continues to rise.

104 people shot, 14 dead over weekend in Chicago

More than 100 people were shot in Chicago over the Father’s Day weekend and at least 14 of them died, marking the most violent weekend in the city so far this year.The Chicago Sun-T…

thehill.com

Dozens shot, at least three killed on violent July 4th weekend in NYC: cops

Nearly 40 people were shot across New York City from the Fourth of July into early Sunday — including several fatalities, police sources said.

nypost.com

police make 10 MILLION arrests per year
.there are MILLIONS more contacts with police
..and MILLIONS more traffic stops
= there is not a problem of police brutality

None of that excuses things when it does happen. There are millions and millions of bank transactions every year. Do we excuse those who rob a bank because of that?

1. you don't make any sense
2. excusing is irrelevant---that doesn't prove there is a problem
3. all proof here:

there is no police brutality problem

..there are 10 MILLION arrests per year--this is not counting traffic stops ..there are 30 million calls for police assistance ..and how many without--a--question--police caused murder/manslaughter deaths ??? let's go high and say 30 [ and 30 is a lot more than there really is ] ..that's 1...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[pknopp]

Write him a ticket and be on your way. Losing your life and the costs of incarcerating a man for life is not worth the few extra dollars a city gets in impound fee's.

let people commit crimes--you are a genius !!!
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I'm sure there isn't a day that goes by that you don't obey every traffic law.