Trump's Wildly Unconstitutional Plot to Banish U.S. Citizens to Gulags

[Unkotare]

You are discussing "anchor babies" as being US citizens, but are ok with them being sent to foreign prisons yes?

For what?

 

[Zincwarrior]

For what?

Crimes in the US as defined by the current administration.

 

[postman]

Ya know... I wonder if that's actually true... given modern-day video-conferencing capabilities.

I mean... after all... we did a lot of that during the COVID pandemic, if memory serves correctly.

What matter if a felon is sitting in Rikers or some foreign prison, so long as they have access to The Process?

I'm not saying that that is what's happening for the first batch of CECOT prize-winners...

Then again, they're not American citizens, so the burden is less, in the long run, and in the collective public mind.

As was pointed out, the courts have no jurisdiction to enforce anything in a foreign country.

You can video conference all you want, but if the court can't efficiate any of it's orders, it can't carry out due process.

 

[Moonglow]

‘Among the most disturbing ideas floated by the Trump administration in recent weeks is the possibility that it will send U.S. citizens to be imprisoned by the Salvadoran government.

Nayib Bukele, El Salvador’s Trump-friendly president, reportedly made the offer in recent weeks. Trump raised the possibility with reporters in the Oval Office last week, though he conceded that he “[doesn’t] know what the law says on that.”’

Trump’s Wildly Unconstitutional Plot to Banish U.S. Citizens to Gulags

His plan to send American citizens to foreign prisons is the latest in a long series of affronts to the American constitutional order.

newrepublic.com

Pretense at ignorance aside, Trump knows, because his henchmen told him. It's just that (like anything else) Trump doesn't care about the rule of law, due process, or the Constitution.

The Orange Felonious Despot has spoken!

 

[postman]

Yet you would be ok with them being shipped out regardless?

I'm wondering if people with dual or multiple citizenships can be shipped out to the country(s) they're citizens of?
Even if done in "error". It's a non-reversable error.

 

[Unkotare]

Crimes in the US as defined by the current administration.

Anyone who commits a crime should be held accountable. Where is the "citizenship" part of this?

 

[PeterPilot]

‘Among the most disturbing ideas floated by the Trump administration in recent weeks is the possibility that it will send U.S. citizens to be imprisoned by the Salvadoran government.

Nayib Bukele, El Salvador’s Trump-friendly president, reportedly made the offer in recent weeks. Trump raised the possibility with reporters in the Oval Office last week, though he conceded that he “[doesn’t] know what the law says on that.”’

Trump’s Wildly Unconstitutional Plot to Banish U.S. Citizens to Gulags

His plan to send American citizens to foreign prisons is the latest in a long series of affronts to the American constitutional order.

newrepublic.com

Pretense at ignorance aside, Trump knows, because his henchmen told him. It's just that (like anything else) Trump doesn't care about the rule of law, due process, or the Constitution.

Trump is not a well read or knowledgeable man. My bet is he has never once read the US Constitution. Like his predecessor Bush and most of the Congress, he doesn't give a damn about the document or its principles.

I'm glad he's attempting to get rid of some of the illegal aliens, but not surprised he doesn't care about constitutional principles.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Anyone who commits a crime should be held accountable. Where is the "citizenship" part of this?

Being shipped to a foreign country?

 

[TimFitz]

The racist and corrupt Democrat Party's goal is to turn America into one party neo-marxist police state where they can arrest people for thought crimes.
The Democrat Party's hate, racism, violence, greed and corruption has alienated mainstream Americans.
So, the Democrats want to replace American Voters with poor uneducated people who will vote Democrat.
This is why Pedo Biden violated his oath of office when he allowed millions of third world welfare moochers and violent criminals to invade our country.
Trump is trying to deport the Crazy Democrat Cult's illegal immigrant criminals.

That was mindless BS

 

[Unkotare]

Being shipped to a foreign country?

Is there a clear question somewhere around here?

 

[TimFitz]

Trump is not a well read or knowledgeable man. My bet is he has never once read the US Constitution. Like his predecessor Bush and most of the Congress, he doesn't give a damn about the document or its principles.

I'm glad he's attempting to get rid of some of the illegal aliens, but not surprised he doesn't care about constitutional principles.

He thinks The Constitution is an apartment house on the Upper West Side.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Is there a clear question somewhere around here?

You are not onside with "anchor babies" being deported, but you are ok with US citizens (who are also anchor babies) being deported.

 

[Unkotare]

Trump is not a well read or knowledgeable man. ....

It's gotta sting that someone you feel so superior to has achieved so much more than you.

 

[MagicMike]

You find where it says Illegal aliens deserve the same due process we do as citizens... any constitutional lawyer will tell you its a sliding scale....

Well, it (the constitutional basis for our individual liberties) is rooted in these words from our Declaration of Independence. The philosophical underpinnings of these "divine rights" actually run all the way back to The Magna Carta of 1215.
That's why they bothered with mentioning The Magna Carta in history class; because this ancient, foreign treatise is so important in understanding as the foundation of our system of government.
You did go to high school I'm assuming?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

With that being said The SCOTUS has already issued numerous opinuons on the rights of immigrants, legal and illegal.
You should try to read some of it.
When you jump out in public like this and make statements like the one above it is immediately clear to people who actually KNOW these things (like me) that you do not know what you are talking about.
You are just arguing a position that you "think" or "wish" was factual. You seem to think facts (reality) is debatable and subject to your "feelings" and beliefs.
It isn't.

 

[Lesh]

It's gotta sting that someone you feel so superior to has achieved so much more than you.

Man you got ADDICTED to the Kool Aid

Sad

 

[gipper]

Nope. You need to apologize.

Chansley wasn’t on solitary for YEARS as you claimed

He didn’t “just walk into the Capitol”

And those creeps were treated with kid gloves

Apologize for lying cretin

Now you’re being dishonest.

You asked for one Jan 6 rioter placed in solitary confinement. I gave you several. In fact, many were.

Don’t be dishonest like Trump.

 

[Kondor3]

There’s a major difference between protests and “disruptive acts” and inciting violence that seems to have escaped you

If you are a foreigner and you help to plan and coordinate so-called "protests" against a good friend and ally and if those so-called "protests" take-over college campus buildings and/or intimidate students of Religion A or B from attending classes or walking-about freely on-campus or elsewhere, or if those protests take-over roadways and block private and commercial traffic in an unpermitted unauthorized fashion, then we're going to deport your nasty a$$ back to the $hithole that you came from... pure common sense.

 

[Lesh]

You are not onside with "anchor babies" being deported, but you are ok with US citizens (who are also anchor babies) being deported.

Now THAT is a problem

A BIG problem

 

[Lesh]

Now you’re being dishonest.

You asked for one Jan 6 rioter placed in solitary confinement. I gave you several. In fact, many were.

Don’t be dishonest like Trump.

You lied about “solitary for YEARS”

Go sit in the liars corner

 

[Zincwarrior]

If you are a foreigner and you help to plan and coordinate so-called "protests

What if you are an American citizen?