Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[kaz]

What about the wall will be 2000 miles long and at least 30 feet high, and Mexico is going to pay for it?

What about if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?

What about that has to do with this thread? Quit trying diversion.

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

 

[kaz]

What about if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?

What about that has to do with this thread? Quit trying diversion.

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

No, asshole, I have posted many times that Trump ran on the reality and tonight you're being a ******* liar.
You think I don't remember who I converse with?
Too bad for you that I know full well you know the truth.

Bulldog just wants to hold politicians accountable for not keeping promises. He's really serious about that, it's a big thing to him. Sure, now it's Trump, but Bulldog, tell us again how you ripped Obama a new one over "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." Man, you just lost it, right Bulldog? I mean Obama was your guy, but he promised. Bulldog don't play that game. President says it, he delivers or Bulldog calls him out on it. That's Bulldog's world. Right Bulldog?

 

[danielpalos]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

Great. When will Mexico send the check?

Who cares? Building the wall is so much worth the cost on our own.

Oh, wait, I get it. You're talking about POTUS not lying. Like "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." You mean like that?

No answer, so you went right to the diversion. Typical RWNJ

What about we need to build a wall and I don't give a shit who pays for it do you fail to grasp? What about that is unclear?

invested in Wall options?

 

[BULLDOG]

What about if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?

What about that has to do with this thread? Quit trying diversion.

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

Trump supporters don't care who pays for the wall. They support him no matter how much he lies. That's only about a third of the country though. The rest see his lies as a bad thing

 

[BULLDOG]

What about that has to do with this thread? Quit trying diversion.

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

No, asshole, I have posted many times that Trump ran on the reality and tonight you're being a ******* liar.
You think I don't remember who I converse with?
Too bad for you that I know full well you know the truth.

Bulldog just wants to hold politicians accountable for not keeping promises. He's really serious about that, it's a big thing to him. Sure, now it's Trump, but Bulldog, tell us again how you ripped Obama a new one over "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." Man, you just lost it, right Bulldog? I mean Obama was your guy, but he promised. Bulldog don't play that game. President says it, he delivers or Bulldog calls him out on it. That's Bulldog's world. Right Bulldog?

Great. That's your goto quote from Obama. He was wrong but that seems to be about the only quote you can come up with. There are hundreds of quotes just as wrong from Trump.

 

[P@triot]

Sure, now it's Trump, but Bulldog, tell us again how you ripped Obama a new one over "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." Man, you just lost it, right Bulldog? I mean Obama was your guy, but he promised. Bulldog don't play that game. President says it, he delivers or Bulldog calls him out on it. That's Bulldog's world. Right Bulldog?

Great. That's your goto quote from Obama. He was wrong but that seems to be about the only quote you can come up with. There are hundreds of quotes just as wrong from Trump.

Hey Bulldog - every word that came out of Obama’s mouth was an egregious lie. I can gvie you as many quotes as you’d like. Just let me know.

 

[P@triot]

President Trump had the most successful first year of any president in the modern era...

Arrests made by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents rose by 30% during Trump’s first full year in the White House

It’s nice to see our laws being properly enforced once again. It’s nice to see these dirt-bag criminals being deported.

See what happened to ICE arrests once Trump took office — the change is drastic

 

[BULLDOG]

President Trump had the most successful first year of any president in the modern era...

Arrests made by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents rose by 30% during Trump’s first full year in the White House

It’s nice to see our laws being properly enforced once again. It’s nice to see these dirt-bag criminals being deported.

See what happened to ICE arrests once Trump took office — the change is drastic

Right Trump-0 even ignored the law congress passed specifically to make him enact the sanctions on Russia. Our orange president is a law breaker.

 

[P@triot]

Our orange president is a law breaker.

Our black president was an egregious law breaker. Our current president has followed the law to the letter.

 

[BULLDOG]

Our orange president is a law breaker.

Our black president was an egregious law breaker. Our current president has followed the law to the letter.

Credible proof?

 

[Indeependent]

What about that has to do with this thread? Quit trying diversion.

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

Trump supporters don't care who pays for the wall. They support him no matter how much he lies. That's only about a third of the country though. The rest see his lies as a bad thing

And yet you think it's alright for you to play the amnesia game and misquote Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

What about that has to do with this thread? Quit trying diversion.

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

Trump supporters don't care who pays for the wall. They support him no matter how much he lies. That's only about a third of the country though. The rest see his lies as a bad thing

So you think they should support him if he doesn't build the wall? Wouldn't that mean he lied?

 

[bripat9643]

Sure, now it's Trump, but Bulldog, tell us again how you ripped Obama a new one over "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." Man, you just lost it, right Bulldog? I mean Obama was your guy, but he promised. Bulldog don't play that game. President says it, he delivers or Bulldog calls him out on it. That's Bulldog's world. Right Bulldog?

Great. That's your goto quote from Obama. He was wrong but that seems to be about the only quote you can come up with. There are hundreds of quotes just as wrong from Trump.

Hey Bulldog - every word that came out of Obama’s mouth was an egregious lie. I can gvie you as many quotes as you’d like. Just let me know.

I've already done that. I counted 21 lies in his inaugrural address, alone.

 

[BULLDOG]

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

Trump supporters don't care who pays for the wall. They support him no matter how much he lies. That's only about a third of the country though. The rest see his lies as a bad thing

So you think they should support him if he doesn't build the wall? Wouldn't that mean he lied?

If he builds the wall, and Mexico is happy to pay for it, he won't be lying. If he builds it and we pay for it, he lied. If he doesn't build it at all, he lied. The only way it isn't a lie is if he does what he said.
Trump Says Mexico Will Pay For The Wall And 'They'll Be Happy About It'

 

[bripat9643]

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

Trump supporters don't care who pays for the wall. They support him no matter how much he lies. That's only about a third of the country though. The rest see his lies as a bad thing

So you think they should support him if he doesn't build the wall? Wouldn't that mean he lied?

If he builds the wall, and Mexico is happy to pay for it, he won't be lying. If he builds it and we pay for it, he lied. If he doesn't build it at all, he lied. The only way it isn't a lie is if he does what he said.
Trump Says Mexico Will Pay For The Wall And 'They'll Be Happy About It'

His supporters don't care if we have to pay for it, numskull.

 

[BULLDOG]

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

Trump supporters don't care who pays for the wall. They support him no matter how much he lies. That's only about a third of the country though. The rest see his lies as a bad thing

So you think they should support him if he doesn't build the wall? Wouldn't that mean he lied?

If he builds the wall, and Mexico is happy to pay for it, he won't be lying. If he builds it and we pay for it, he lied. If he doesn't build it at all, he lied. The only way it isn't a lie is if he does what he said.
Trump Says Mexico Will Pay For The Wall And 'They'll Be Happy About It'

His supporters don't care if we have to pay for it, numskull.

I know. Kinda crazy of them, isn't it?

 

[danielpalos]

Mr. Trump alleged to have a fine and wonderful healthcare plan; not, nothing but repeal.

 

[bripat9643]

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

Trump supporters don't care who pays for the wall. They support him no matter how much he lies. That's only about a third of the country though. The rest see his lies as a bad thing

So you think they should support him if he doesn't build the wall? Wouldn't that mean he lied?

If he builds the wall, and Mexico is happy to pay for it, he won't be lying. If he builds it and we pay for it, he lied. If he doesn't build it at all, he lied. The only way it isn't a lie is if he does what he said.
Trump Says Mexico Will Pay For The Wall And 'They'll Be Happy About It'

His supporters don't care if we have to pay for it, numskull.

I know. Kinda crazy of them, isn't it?

No, it's entirely rational and sensible. The numskulls who oppose it are the ones acting crazy.

 

[kaz]

What about that has to do with this thread? Quit trying diversion.

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

You were destroyed in this one with the thread title. No one cares that much who pays for the wall, that's a tiny issue compared to the real issue of getting the wall.

I'm sure you'll freak out at the tie Trump is wearing when he signs the bill to build the wall.

Speaking of your bizarre fixation on Ivanka, did she turn you down in your fantasies again last night? It still cracks me up how your own fantasies just say eew and turn you down. That's a serious permanent salute you have for the general over Ivanka though. She is a hottie though, you're right about that

Trump supporters don't care who pays for the wall. They support him no matter how much he lies. That's only about a third of the country though. The rest see his lies as a bad thing

Trump lies far less than the media and Democrats do. And I'm not defending Trump in that

 

[kaz]

You have been told many times that Trump never said 2,000 miles long and you're playing "amnesia".

Bulldog's a horn dog liar. I didn't think there was any question on that one

Most RWNJs say that when they can't back up their crap.

No, asshole, I have posted many times that Trump ran on the reality and tonight you're being a ******* liar.
You think I don't remember who I converse with?
Too bad for you that I know full well you know the truth.

Bulldog just wants to hold politicians accountable for not keeping promises. He's really serious about that, it's a big thing to him. Sure, now it's Trump, but Bulldog, tell us again how you ripped Obama a new one over "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." Man, you just lost it, right Bulldog? I mean Obama was your guy, but he promised. Bulldog don't play that game. President says it, he delivers or Bulldog calls him out on it. That's Bulldog's world. Right Bulldog?

Great. That's your goto quote from Obama. He was wrong but that seems to be about the only quote you can come up with. There are hundreds of quotes just as wrong from Trump.

I only gave you one quote on Obama to match your one quote on Trump. You liked that argument enough to read it and click "Post Reply?"

Obama lied all the time. He lied about Benghazi saying it was a spontaneous attack. He lied about Fast and Furious that he didn't know. He lied about the IRS targeting conservatives. He lied about that he would leave Iraq and scale back in the middle east. He lied about that he didn't know about Hillary's e-mail server.

I like how this I only gave you one Obama lie for your one Trump lie emerging as a standard after you didn't add any Trump quotes, LOL.

When Democrats say go down, you ask how far