Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[dblack]

Nothing illlegal is a benefit. Nothing.

What? You don't think it's possible for government to outlaw something that's beneficial? Have you been into daniel's stash?

 

[Moonglow]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

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meaning we spend more on less...

 

[dblack]

It's best to refocus, and get the precise and exact things needed to solve this huge problem, and to do it in a way that favors conservatives in the end.

You fail to realize that the “Demoncrats” can overturn anything when they are in charge. But I *guarantee* you that they will never tear down a wall.

That much I agree with. Democrats love totalitarian government. It's more likely that Republicans would tear it down, after they come to their senses. If they come to their senses.

 

[JoeB131]

Every 20 year old isn't in college, and in fact we have far to many 20 year olds wasting their lives right now or destroying their lives right now, yet we place illegal immigration above them ?? You speak for the globalist and a globalist vision, and that's the rub in all this for you.

Again, if they are wasting their lives, THAT'S ON THEM!!!!

Somehow, I don't think that 20 year old is going to find fulfillment in a dish-washing job he doesn't want.

 

[JQPublic1]

I'm not pro illegal immigration but the price of vegetables and fruits could go through the roof without that cheap labor.

So what? Cheap produce isn’t an excuse to violate the law. Cheap produce also isn’t an excuse to exploit people. For ****’s sake - what is wrong with you?!?

You got to laugh when these leftwing idiots admit they were willing to exploit poor people so they can have a cheap salad.

Well...considering most of them are parasites who mooch off of society...it’s not surprising that they are all about getting stuff cheap at the expense of others.

We ARE society you delusional fool. My vote is just as powerful as yours. My American citizenship weighs just as much as yours in the political arena. My tax dollars are just as valuable as yours. Who the fug do you think you RW zombies are? You aren't special and you sure don't own this country. It is mine as much as yours.

We won the election moron.

You stole the election but still lost the mandate. Most American voters did not vote for Trump. And his pathetic approval ratings back that up. What does that portend? Well if he keeps pushing that wall building folly he will end up being a one term president. That is if Mueller doesn't scorch his fat ass first.

 

[JQPublic1]

Not caring about spending coupled with revenue cutting tax breaks is why our national deficit and debt keeps growing.

Not caring about people being horribly exploited so you can get cheap lettuce is why you are a total tool and a horrible person.

All the wall is going to do is make fruitpickers htichhike to the oceans and rent boats to come here.

That makes their journey much harder and thus less likely for them to succeed. That’s the entire idea.

This imbecile doesn't seem to realize that we have a coast gaurd for a reason.

But there is no wall on the coastlines so why do we need one on the southern border? And the coastlines are even longer than the Southern border.

You can't be this stupid.

Oh...I'm not...when you grow up you will see that.

 

[JoeB131]

A wall will work - which is exactly why you are so opposed to it. If it wouldn’t work, you would care.

Um, actually, I'm against it because it's an ugly sentiment and a waste of money.

Nothing illlegal is a benefit. Nothing. It’s pathetic how hard you try to come up with reasons why you want a foreign nation to invade this country.

Sure it is. Just because they make goofy laws to appeal to your bigotry isn't the issue here. THe fact is, as long as we want services done cheaply, we will have an immigrant labor market.

Always have...always will.

Our immigration laws are like the prohibition laws. Trying to prevent people from getting what they want.

Joe is a selfish parasite. He doesn’t care about Americans. He cares about bringing down the U.S. and replacing it with communism to ensure he can mooch off of society until he dies.

Again, probably work harder than you do, buddy.

And I'm all for cutting corporate welfare and other boondoggles from people mooching off society.

If produce tripled because we rid the U.S. of illegal aliens, it would still be “affordable”. If you are such an unskilled loser that stopping our nation from being invaded deprives you of the ability to pay for produce, then that's kind of on you.

Actually, the reason why food is affordable is because of cheap labor. Food costs have gone down

In 1960, groceries made up 14% of a household budget. Today its down to 6%.

 

[JQPublic1]

Trump is and the orange oaf seems to think he is king.

How do you figure? You can’t provide a single example. Do you know why? Because President Trump has strictly adhered to the U.S. Constitution. He hasn’t overstepped his authority in even the slightest way. Quite the contrary, he has rejected power by reversing all of the Barack Insane Obama unconstitutional orders that illegally created power in the presidency that doesn’t exist.

You are truly a partisan hack.

Yah...that's why Trump is sweating an investigation by Mueller. But the bullying buffoon was handed the presidency on a silver platter. His adopted party controls all 3
Branches of government and Obama passed on to him a thriving economy. Yet, his administration is still struggling. to get things done.. Obama had a hostile RW dominated congress that wanted him to fail .So his bipartisan initiatives were met with obstinate resistance, leaving him with one option...that being the use of Executive Orders, based on precedence, to get things done.

 

[JQPublic1]

But there is no wall on the coastlines so why do we need one on the southern border?

Because Mexicans can’t walk on water...

But they can float on rafts or rickety boats.

A risk that many will not be willing to take. And of those that do, a certain percentage will die trying. Of the percentage left after that, the majority will be caught by the coast guard or border patrol.

So what's new? Bodies are frequently being found along the southern border. Some illegals.get caught trying to cross over and and some get through. I don't see those dynamics changing much if illegals are forced to divert to seafaring or hitching rides as stowaways on ships. But we aren't just talking about Mexicans here. We are talking about illegal immigrants from around the world.

And refugees from Cuba are still welcomed with open arms...while Trump has tried to curb the trickle of Haitians brave enough to
head out to sea on rickety rafts and leaking biats.

 

[JQPublic1]

We ARE society you delusional fool. My vote is just as powerful as yours. My American citizenship weighs just as much as yours in the political arena. My tax dollars are just as valuable as yours. Who the fug do you think you RW zombies are? You aren't special and you sure don't own this country. It is mine as much as yours.

Yeah...and the American people have spoken. They rejected your batshit crazy progressive ideology. They handed the nation over to the Republicans because the left has failed us in a big way. We the people want the wall built. We don’t give a shit that you don’t like it because you want more illegals voters for your side.

You think Trump's base of populist sheep are the" American People" but they aren' any more American than the majority who didn't vote for his trifling ass. Trump's base represents only about 30% of the voting public. Further...61% of the "American People" don't want the wall built. So add up the numbers before trying to tell me what the American peopke want.

 

[JQPublic1]

Need to sit down with both sides as Trump is doing, and come up with the right solution. Look the left aren't going away, so it's foolish to think that they can be contained in a 4 year span or even an 8 year span. But we can get the job done through a series of negotiations, and that is what will go on.

It’s exponentially more foolish to think the left can be reasoned with, rationed with, or negotiated with. These are people so radicalized, they declare that a person can think their way into a new gender. And they adamantly oppose stopping foreigners from invading this nation. It’s what they want. So how the **** are you going to negotiate with that?

The mysterious left apparently isn't the political monolith you think it is. Otherwise the democrats would always be in power.

 

[P@triot]

There's no such wall. If you can build, others can tear it down. And will.

As dumb as the Dumbocrats are - they are never going to spend billions of dollars to tear down a wall when there would be absolutely no reason to do so other than to openly admit that they want the country invaded by another nation. And they aren't going to do that. You're just being stupid now.

 

[regent]

Sounds like the wall will stop all illegal immigration, not a one will get in after the wall.

 

[P@triot]

A wall will work - which is exactly why you are so opposed to it. If it wouldn’t work, you would care.

Um, actually, I'm against it because it's an ugly sentiment and a waste of money.

Um...actually...you love to spend other people's money. And you are one walking ugly sentiment. Everything you say, everything you do, is the epitome of ugly. Your hate for America. Your contempt for liberty. Your denial of God.

The fact is - you vehemently oppose this because you know damn well it will work. And you oppose anything Republicans will do that will be successful.

 

[P@triot]

Sounds like the wall will stop all illegal immigration, not a one will get in after the wall.

Actually - to reasonable people (ie everyone who isn't a Dumbocrat), it sounds like the wall will do exactly what it is designed to do. Prevent the overwhelming majority of criminals invading this nation. Making it possible for our limited resources to focus on the small minority that still makes their way into our nation.

 

[P@triot]

Nothing illlegal is a benefit. Nothing. It’s pathetic how hard you try to come up with reasons why you want a foreign nation to invade this country.

Sure it is. Just because they make goofy laws to appeal to your bigotry isn't the issue here. THe fact is, as long as we want services done cheaply, we will have an immigrant labor market.

See what I mean about you and your ugly sentiments? There is nothing beneficial about exploiting others because you're too lazy and too greedy to do something yourself. And there is nothing beneficial about both the exploited labor and the employer evading taxes on all of that labor (one of many reasons Dumbocrats have built a $20 trillion national debt for us).

 

[P@triot]

Joe is a selfish parasite. He doesn’t care about Americans. He cares about bringing down the U.S. and replacing it with communism to ensure he can mooch off of society until he dies.

Again, probably work harder than you do, buddy.

I believe that actually. It's not easy being a parasite in America (much easier in Canada, Europe, ect.). It does take some effort in this nation to mooch off of society.

Personally, I'm proud of the fact that I don't work "hard". I work smart. I work efficient. And I do have to put in some insanely long hours at times, but I make sure not to work "hard" as that doesn't add value to my employer or our clients.

 

[regent]

A wall will work - which is exactly why you are so opposed to it. If it wouldn’t work, you would care.

Um, actually, I'm against it because it's an ugly sentiment and a waste of money.

Um...actually...you love to spend other people's money. And you are one walking ugly sentiment. Everything you say, everything you do, is the epitome of ugly. Your hate for America. Your contempt for liberty. Your denial of God.

The fact is - you vehemently oppose this because you know damn well it will work. And you oppose anything Republicans will do that will be successful.

So what is the greatest conservative's-Republican success story?

 

[P@triot]

Yah...that's why Trump is sweating an investigation by Mueller.

No - he’s laughing at the investigation by Mueller. So far, all roads from Russia have lead directly to Hitlery Clinton and the Dumbocrats.

But the bullying buffoon was handed the presidency on a silver platter. His adopted party controls all 3 Branches of government

This is President Trump’s first year in office. In Barack Insane Obama’s first year in office, he too had control of all 3 branches of government by his party.

Yet, his administration is still struggling. to get things done.. Obama had a hostile RW dominated congress that wanted him to fail

Barack Insane Obama’s party not only controlled all 3 branches of government sparky, he actually had a super majority (something President Trump has never had).

Like I said, you are truly a partisan hack. You don’t have any of the facts correct.

 

[bripat9643]

So what? Cheap produce isn’t an excuse to violate the law. Cheap produce also isn’t an excuse to exploit people. For ****’s sake - what is wrong with you?!?

You got to laugh when these leftwing idiots admit they were willing to exploit poor people so they can have a cheap salad.

Well...considering most of them are parasites who mooch off of society...it’s not surprising that they are all about getting stuff cheap at the expense of others.

We ARE society you delusional fool. My vote is just as powerful as yours. My American citizenship weighs just as much as yours in the political arena. My tax dollars are just as valuable as yours. Who the fug do you think you RW zombies are? You aren't special and you sure don't own this country. It is mine as much as yours.

We won the election moron.

You stole the election but still lost the mandate. Most American voters did not vote for Trump. And his pathetic approval ratings back that up. What does that portend? Well if he keeps pushing that wall building folly he will end up being a one term president. That is if Mueller doesn't scorch his fat ass first.

His approval ratings are simply the result of the nonstop fake news media war against him. Trump won fair and square, and that's what really pisses off you snowflake douchebags. Trump will be a one term president if he doesn't build the wall. The only people who won't vote for him because of the wall were never going to vote for him anyway.