Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[beagle9]

How does that prove I benefit from illegal aliens? It doesn't. No native born American benefits. "The economy" is an abstraction that doesn't have a mortgage to pay.

Guy, if you are such an unskilled loser that an illegal deprives you of the ability to pay your mortgage, then that's kind of on you.

Too bad you didn't develop work skills at some point.

. Not a question of the "work skills" in the 18 to 25 year's of age groups, for whom are most affected at these levels by this bullcrap, because this is the age where Americans were once learning to work when left high school. They can't get a job in many American job area's of labor anymore (like was once there for them in the past), because cheap labor has filled the positions once held by this crowd of up and coming workers.

It has had a major impact on our youth who needed these job's, and were cast aside because of pure greed on the parts of those who had forgotten how they started out in America, and how the labor positions held once had helped them to become hungry to do much better in life, and to push to succeed in life. Now we have our youth sitting around committing suicide at alarming rates, killing their fellow students in terror attacks, doing every drug imaginable, living in mom's basement till 30 years old, and on and on and on it all goes while the lies and spin just get ramped up more and more and more, and all in order to just cover it all up.

 

[beagle9]

It's the H1-Bs who are hurting my ability to pay my mortgage. Over 3/4 of all hightech workers are immigrants.

Okay, guy, but that has nothing to do with illegal immigration. Those guys are LEGALLY immigrating, because again, your one percenter boss would rather hire them than you.

Probably because they won't be on the internet all day complaining about Mexicans and Immigrants and whoever else is making you mad.

You still didn't prove I benefit from illegal aliens. Blue collar workers definitely don't benefit. They're the ones who have to compete with them.

sure I did. They can buy agricultural products at affordable prices because the labor is there to harvest them.

. You want to talk agriculture on an issue that has morphed far more into something that is way more complicated than migrants working in the fields on a seasonal basis. In the past migrants volunteered to come here and work in the fields, and then return to their countries of origin during the off season.

You're use of the agricultural industry is a weak attempt at tackling a very complicated illegal immigration issue.

 

[JoeB131]

Americans who lost a job to an illegal didn't benefit, moron.

Again, if you are such a loser that an illegal beat you on getting a job, that's kind of on you.

 

[JoeB131]

You want to talk agriculture on an issue that has morphed far more into something that is way more complicated than migrants working in the fields on a seasonal basis. In the past migrants volunteered to come here and work in the fields, and then return to their countries of origin during the off season.

You're use of the agricultural industry is a weak attempt at tackling a very complicated illegal immigration issue.

In the past, they had jobs to go back to in the "off season" in agriculture in their home countries. that's the point.

Before NAFTA destroyed Mexican corn farming because American corn was so darned cheap with the genetic engineering and the government subsidies to grow it.

 

[JoeB131]

Not a question of the "work skills" in the 18 to 25 year's of age groups, for whom are most affected at these levels by this bullcrap, because this is the age where Americans were once learning to work when left high school. They can't get a job in many American job area's of labor anymore (like was once there for them in the past), because cheap labor has filled the positions once held by this crowd of up and coming workers.

do you know what I did to develop "work skills" between 18 and 25. I joined the army and went to college. Even back in the 1980's, I didn't want to do the dishwashing jobs that these illegals are doing now.

It has had a major impact on our youth who needed these job's, and were cast aside because of pure greed on the parts of those who had forgotten how they started out in America, and how the labor positions held once had helped them to become hungry to do much better in life, and to push to succeed in life. Now we have our youth sitting around committing suicide at alarming rates, killing their fellow students in terror attacks, doing every drug imaginable, living in mom's basement till 30 years old, and on and on and on it all goes while the lies and spin just get ramped up more and more and more, and all in order to just cover it all up.

Again, that's more to do with them than it is to do with illegals.

Here's the thing. No 20 year old in college wants to even do the kind of jobs I did at that age.

 

[beagle9]

You want to talk agriculture on an issue that has morphed far more into something that is way more complicated than migrants working in the fields on a seasonal basis. In the past migrants volunteered to come here and work in the fields, and then return to their countries of origin during the off season.

You're use of the agricultural industry is a weak attempt at tackling a very complicated illegal immigration issue.

In the past, they had jobs to go back to in the "off season" in agriculture in their home countries. that's the point.

Before NAFTA destroyed Mexican corn farming because American corn was so darned cheap with the genetic engineering and the government subsidies to grow it.

. Why didn't Mexico just refuse to participate in NAFTA, you know MMGA (make Mexico great again) ?? Can they not take a crap without America holding their hands ?

 

[bripat9643]

Americans who lost a job to an illegal didn't benefit, moron.

Again, if you are such a loser that an illegal beat you on getting a job, that's kind of on you.

Your sympathy for unemployed American workers is noted.

 

[beagle9]

Not a question of the "work skills" in the 18 to 25 year's of age groups, for whom are most affected at these levels by this bullcrap, because this is the age where Americans were once learning to work when left high school. They can't get a job in many American job area's of labor anymore (like was once there for them in the past), because cheap labor has filled the positions once held by this crowd of up and coming workers.

do you know what I did to develop "work skills" between 18 and 25. I joined the army and went to college. Even back in the 1980's, I didn't want to do the dishwashing jobs that these illegals are doing now.

It has had a major impact on our youth who needed these job's, and were cast aside because of pure greed on the parts of those who had forgotten how they started out in America, and how the labor positions held once had helped them to become hungry to do much better in life, and to push to succeed in life. Now we have our youth sitting around committing suicide at alarming rates, killing their fellow students in terror attacks, doing every drug imaginable, living in mom's basement till 30 years old, and on and on and on it all goes while the lies and spin just get ramped up more and more and more, and all in order to just cover it all up.

Again, that's more to do with them than it is to do with illegals.

Here's the thing. No 20 year old in college wants to even do the kind of jobs I did at that age.

. Every 20 year old isn't in college, and in fact we have far to many 20 year olds wasting their lives right now or destroying their lives right now, yet we place illegal immigration above them ?? You speak for the globalist and a globalist vision, and that's the rub in all this for you.

 

[P@triot]

Trump is and the orange oaf seems to think he is king.

How do you figure? You can’t provide a single example. Do you know why? Because President Trump has strictly adhered to the U.S. Constitution. He hasn’t overstepped his authority in even the slightest way. Quite the contrary, he has rejected power by reversing all of the Barack Insane Obama unconstitutional orders that illegally created power in the presidency that doesn’t exist.

You are truly a partisan hack.

 

[P@triot]

But there is no wall on the coastlines so why do we need one on the southern border?

Because Mexicans can’t walk on water...

But they can float on rafts or rickety boats.

A risk that many will not be willing to take. And of those that do, a certain percentage will die trying. Of the percentage left after that, the majority will be caught by the coast guard or border patrol.

 

[P@triot]

We ARE society you delusional fool. My vote is just as powerful as yours. My American citizenship weighs just as much as yours in the political arena. My tax dollars are just as valuable as yours. Who the fug do you think you RW zombies are? You aren't special and you sure don't own this country. It is mine as much as yours.

Yeah...and the American people have spoken. They rejected your batshit crazy progressive ideology. They handed the nation over to the Republicans because the left has failed us in a big way. We the people want the wall built. We don’t give a shit that you don’t like it because you want more illegals voters for your side.

 

[P@triot]

It's best to refocus, and get the precise and exact things needed to solve this huge problem, and to do it in a way that favors conservatives in the end.

You fail to realize that the “Demoncrats” can overturn anything when they are in charge. But I *guarantee* you that they will never tear down a wall. It would cost a fortune and solve nothing. And it was piss off the nation. The wall is literally the most permanent thing the Republicans can do. Which is exactly why the left is opposing it so vehemently.

 

[beagle9]

It's best to refocus, and get the precise and exact things needed to solve this huge problem, and to do it in a way that favors conservatives in the end.

You fail to realize that the “Demoncrats” can overturn anything when they are in charge. But I *guarantee* you that they will never tear down a wall. It would cost a fortune and solve nothing. And it was piss off the nation. The wall is literally the most permanent thing the Republicans can do. Which is exactly why the left is opposing it so vehemently.

. Need to sit down with both sides as Trump is doing, and come up with the right solution. Look the left aren't going away, so it's foolish to think that they can be contained in a 4 year span or even an 8 year span. But we can get the job done through a series of negotiations, and that is what will go on.

 

[P@triot]

1) A wall won't work. People will find ways around it as long as there are things on the other side they want.

A wall will work - which is exactly why you are so opposed to it. If it wouldn’t work, you would care.

2) Illegal Immigration is a net benefit for the country.

Nothing illlegal is a benefit. Nothing. It’s pathetic how hard you try to come up with reasons why you want a foreign nation to invade this country.

 

[P@triot]

Need to sit down with both sides as Trump is doing, and come up with the right solution. Look the left aren't going away, so it's foolish to think that they can be contained in a 4 year span or even an 8 year span. But we can get the job done through a series of negotiations, and that is what will go on.

It’s exponentially more foolish to think the left can be reasoned with, rationed with, or negotiated with. These are people so radicalized, they declare that a person can think their way into a new gender. And they adamantly oppose stopping foreigners from invading this nation. It’s what they want. So how the **** are you going to negotiate with that?

 

[P@triot]

They can buy agricultural products at affordable prices because the labor is there to harvest them.

If produce tripled because we rid the U.S. of illegal aliens, it would still be “affordable”. If you are such an unskilled loser that stopping our nation from being invaded deprives you of the ability to pay for produce, then that's kind of on you.

Too bad you didn't develop work skills at some point to afford the basics.

 

[beagle9]

Need to sit down with both sides as Trump is doing, and come up with the right solution. Look the left aren't going away, so it's foolish to think that they can be contained in a 4 year span or even an 8 year span. But we can get the job done through a series of negotiations, and that is what will go on.

It’s exponentially more foolish to think the left can be reasoned with, rationed with, or negotiated with. These are people so radicalized, they declare that a person can think their way into a new gender. And they adamantly oppose stopping foreigners from invading this nation. It’s what they want. So how the **** are you going to negotiate with that?

. Agree, but what else is there ??

 

[P@triot]

Americans who lost a job to an illegal didn't benefit, moron.

Joe is a selfish parasite. He doesn’t care about Americans. He cares about bringing down the U.S. and replacing it with communism to ensure he can mooch off of society until he dies.

 

[P@triot]

Need to sit down with both sides as Trump is doing, and come up with the right solution. Look the left aren't going away, so it's foolish to think that they can be contained in a 4 year span or even an 8 year span. But we can get the job done through a series of negotiations, and that is what will go on.

It’s exponentially more foolish to think the left can be reasoned with, rationed with, or negotiated with. These are people so radicalized, they declare that a person can think their way into a new gender. And they adamantly oppose stopping foreigners from invading this nation. It’s what they want. So how the **** are you going to negotiate with that?

. Agree, but what else is there ??

If you agree with me - then why did you just state we should do the opposite?

What else is there? Build a wall that will remain no matter who is in power.

 

[dblack]

Need to sit down with both sides as Trump is doing, and come up with the right solution. Look the left aren't going away, so it's foolish to think that they can be contained in a 4 year span or even an 8 year span. But we can get the job done through a series of negotiations, and that is what will go on.

It’s exponentially more foolish to think the left can be reasoned with, rationed with, or negotiated with. These are people so radicalized, they declare that a person can think their way into a new gender. And they adamantly oppose stopping foreigners from invading this nation. It’s what they want. So how the **** are you going to negotiate with that?

. Agree, but what else is there ??

If you agree with me - then why did you just state we should do the opposite?

What else is there? Build a wall that will remain no matter who is in power.

There's no such wall. If you can build, others can tear it down. And will.