Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[bripat9643]

And there you go. At least be big enough to admit that you got taken. That your anti Obama, your anti swamp savior turned out to be just another reptile preaching amnesty. After all the preaching here you are having to defend amnesty. Sad! Bigly!

Again: Tell us what you propose to put up for a vote in Congress. If you can't tell us what you want Congress to vote on, then shut the **** up.

I propose Trump do like he said he would do and like you specifically l said he would do and not promis amnesty after saying “no amnesty “ to get elected. Keep on, many remember your tantrums when they said amnesty was coming. When you get onboard with amnesty sweety?

So... Here is Trump's deal (one I predicted before Trump negotiated it BTW):

* ONE THIRD of the undocumented foreigners will have a path to citizenship

* The wall will not affect 46 percent of the undocumented foreigners that come here through legal means and then never leave

* So, once you subtract the alleged costs of 76 percent of the undocumented population, the wall becomes more expensive than any proposed benefit

* The anti-immigrant lobby likes to dwell on the alleged "costs" of undocumented foreigners being here. Their accounting is highly dishonest for an accounting ledger has two sides. Nobody has posted the amount of taxes the undocumented foreigner pays NOR, more importantly how much money they generate by producing more work for less money

* Presupposing that a wall is erected and you give a third of those undocumented foreigners a pathway to citizenship, it will leave the door open for their families to come here.

Oh, the right will claim that Trump is saying that parents of Dreamers and so forth will not qualify as people that come here, but don't forget that the United States Supreme Court will weigh in. Of the NINE Justices, you have six Catholics and three Jews. There is no way in Hell that the Court is going to allow the government to separate families over a federal civil misdemeanor like improper entry.

* We are nearing statistical zero unemployment, thereby negating any need for a wall

* AFTER you've paid for the wall and the Dreamers and their families become Democrats, they will undo all of that effort and the wall will become irrelevant... So, why the wall?

With the wall comes armed drones and drones with cameras along with an army of ninja clad federal mercenaries that won't go away just because the wall becomes irrelevant. And so there will come a ONE WORLD POLICE FORCE with the tools and manpower to watch every American 24 / 7 / 365 and jeopardize every Liberty our forefathers fought, bled and died in order to secure.

You don't get to add the people given amnesty to the yearly total, moron. That's a one time deal.The wall will take care of 60% of the yearly total, and that's well worth it. That will ensure we don't ever have to grant an amnesty again, which is precisely why youre against it. You're just another open-borders douchebag.

Your fantasies about what the wall leads to are hilarious, to say the least. Where has this ever happened?

There is a village somehere missing its idiot.

. You speak as if the Demon-crats won't ever be in power again... To tackle the problem within this nation (that has truly caused this massive problem) is the best bet, and yes secure that border.

The reason to build the wall is precisely because the Democrats may get back into power. I have no idea what I said that makes you conclude that I think that can't happen. It's you that behaves as if we have all the time in the world, and that we can dicker endlessly about the price of the wall and where to build it.

Just get the ******* money up front. Then we can worry about the details.

 

[JQPublic1]

I'm not pro illegal immigration but the price of vegetables and fruits could go through the roof without that cheap labor.

So what? Cheap produce isn’t an excuse to violate the law. Cheap produce also isn’t an excuse to exploit people. For ****’s sake - what is wrong with you?!?

You got to laugh when these leftwing idiots admit they were willing to exploit poor people so they can have a cheap salad.

Did you ask Reagan what was wrong with him when he essentially said the same thing?
And Reagan was no leftwinger nor am I.

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial​

President Donald Trump announced that he will fulfill his campaign promise to build a nearly 2,000 mile long wall (not a fence) along America’s southern border with Mexico.

The idea is that a physical barrier will act as a low-cost deterrent, and will help stem the flow of illegal immigrants entering America via Mexico—the hope is that once an illegal alien (particularly a criminal migrant) is deported, they won’t return.

The plan is simple and time-tested—China’s Great Wall did it’s job, so did Hadrian’s Wall in Roman Britain—and yet it’s come under fire from the mainstream media.

They claim that the wall will be prohibitively expensive, that illegal immigrants contribute to America’s economy (so there’s no reason to deport them), and that the wall won’t work.

They’re factually wrong on all accounts—let’s look at the numbers.

How Much Will Trump’s Wall Cost? $21.6 Billion.
The first question we must address is very straightforward: how much would it cost to build a wall along the Mexican border?

We don’t know for sure (construction costs rarely align with initial estimates), but we have a few good estimates.

Senate leader Mitch McConnell said Congress estimates the wall will cost $15 billion at most—he said it would likely fall within a range of $12 to $15 billion.

However, according to more recent information acquired by Reuters, the border wall will cost $21.6 billion, and will take roughly 3.5 years to build. This is according to a document from the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s probably our best current estimate, and this article will proceed under using this cost assumption.

On the high end (which can’t be totally discounted, given the nature of construction projects), the left-wing advocacy group cum “newspaper” the Huffington Post said the wall would cost roughly $40 billion. Their evidence is based on a study done by MIT (although their assumptions about the size and building materials may be why the projection is so high).

Either way, the cost of the wall pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants in America.

. . . . . . . .​

. The wall is a bad idea, and it will be a waste of money... Sorry.....

If we would just enforce the border, and jail along with fine the American businesses caught working or hiring illegals, the situation would clear up immediately. Yes, build better deterrents or use better technology in areas of the border in need of the correct applications to use, but a blank check or rubber stamp for a wall IMO is just ridiculous knowing what we know now. ENFORCEMENT IS ALL THAT IS NEEDED !!!

Horseshit. It's the security measure that gives the most bang for the buck. That's why 60 countries have built similar walls. Everything dumbasses like you say about the wall is just plain not true, and that's easy to prove. I have proved it hundreds of times already in this forum.

There are no better "deterents" than the wall. If going after employers worked, then why do we have this flood of illegals in the country? It's already illegal for employers to hire illegals. As always, you propose solutions that have been proven not to work because they depend on scumbag politicians to do their jobs. The wall doesn't depend on politicians to work. That's the beauty of it and the reason lying open-borders weasels like you are so hostile to it.

How is paying for the wall anymore of a "blank check" than paying for Obama's healthcare boondoggle? Since when is paying for things giving them a "blank check?" That's just one of those labels leftwingers like to throw around innappropiately, like "extreme." They use it because it polls well with the leftwing imbeciles, not because it means anything.

You can repeat your horseshit 1000 times, and I'll knock it down 1000 times.

Bullcrap, and you are crazy if you think that employers have been abiding by the federal laws or if you think that they haven't figured out how to get around the laws in order to employee the illegals vis a vis through contractors or actually setting them up as independent contractors who then come to work on their jobs/job sites without being directly tied to them.

I ask you, how does million's of illegals sustain themselves here without working ? Easy -- They don't !!!!

So you admit that employer sanctions haven't worked, but your conclusion is that employer sanctions are the way to solve the problem? What am I missing here?

Just like Trump said, the wall basically will be established in some areas of need, along with upgrading or repairing existing barriers in need, applying technology where needed, and placing man power where needed.

Yeah? So?

He is to ensure a full enforcement of the border, but just as he ran around carrying on about how much bowing (the aircraft manufacturer), who wanted to charge the government for new aircraft a huge amount of money, and then him re-negotiating those bids, then shouldn't it be that the American taxpayers can also question the price of this so called wall, it's implementation of, it's effectiveness, and it's design ???

Shouldn't the American taxpayers expect total transparency on the cost, effectiveness, plan, allocation of resources, enforcement, type of enforcement, and on the dealings with those employers inside this country who are a huge draw in the whole problem, and who have been breaking the law ??

Question it all you want, but you're an obstacle to getting anything passed. We don't need the supporters of border security questioning anything when the Dim opponents are spewing a torrent of questioning and criticism.

Shouldn't the American taxpayers get a better plan, along with enforcement, and a long term cost analysis, and the effectiveness of it all laid out to them in a very thorough way by the administration, instead of what we got with the ACA in which you spoke about in your post ?

There's a lot of things American taxpayers should get, but that isn't going to happen because the Dims have sworn their opposition to what Americans want. We have to get what we can get. Holding out for perfection is the plan of fools.

To speak in this way is somehow liberal or etc in your book ??

Yes. You're an obstacle. You aren't part of the solution.

Where did you get that I'm for open borders as you claimed ?? Are you lying out of desperation now ?? Why do you fear American's wanting transparency out of the Trump administration ??

All you do is attack any plan proposed to secure the border, so why wouldn't I assume you're for open borders?

 

[JQPublic1]

Not caring about spending coupled with revenue cutting tax breaks is why our national deficit and debt keeps growing.

Not caring about people being horribly exploited so you can get cheap lettuce is why you are a total tool and a horrible person.

All the wall is going to do is make fruitpickers htichhike to the oceans and rent boats to come here.

That makes their journey much harder and thus less likely for them to succeed. That’s the entire idea.

This imbecile doesn't seem to realize that we have a coast gaurd for a reason.

But there is no wall on the coastlines so why do we need one on the southern border? And the coastlines are even longer than the Southern border.

 

[P@triot]

But there is no wall on the coastlines so why do we need one on the southern border?

Because Mexicans can’t walk on water...

 

[JQPublic1]

Not worried about the wall since Mexico is paying for it. If they don't then no wall.

Another idiot who thinks he tells the Trump administration what to do.

You're the idiot. Trump works for us....we don't work for him. The presidency is not a monarchy you petulant shrew.

Wow...someone has done a 180° pivot. You were adamant that Barack Insane Obama had unlimited power when he was in office. Not once did you ever declare that he worked for the American people.

Stop lying. I never said that. And I was never challenged to say whether or not Obama worked for the American people. But Obama isn't president now. Trump is and the orange oaf seems to think he is king. He is far worse than Obama and half as smart. The puerile beast is his own worst enemy.

 

[JQPublic1]

But there is no wall on the coastlines so why do we need one on the southern border?

Because Mexicans can’t walk on water...

But they can float on rafts or rickety boats.

 

[JQPublic1]

I'm not pro illegal immigration but the price of vegetables and fruits could go through the roof without that cheap labor.

So what? Cheap produce isn’t an excuse to violate the law. Cheap produce also isn’t an excuse to exploit people. For ****’s sake - what is wrong with you?!?

You got to laugh when these leftwing idiots admit they were willing to exploit poor people so they can have a cheap salad.

Well...considering most of them are parasites who mooch off of society...it’s not surprising that they are all about getting stuff cheap at the expense of others.

We ARE society you delusional fool. My vote is just as powerful as yours. My American citizenship weighs just as much as yours in the political arena. My tax dollars are just as valuable as yours. Who the fug do you think you RW zombies are? You aren't special and you sure don't own this country. It is mine as much as yours.

 

[JQPublic1]

Not caring about spending coupled with revenue cutting tax breaks is why our national deficit and debt keeps growing.

Not caring about people being horribly exploited so you can get cheap lettuce is why you are a total tool and a horrible person.

 

[bripat9643]

Not caring about spending coupled with revenue cutting tax breaks is why our national deficit and debt keeps growing.

Not caring about people being horribly exploited so you can get cheap lettuce is why you are a total tool and a horrible person.

All the wall is going to do is make fruitpickers htichhike to the oceans and rent boats to come here.

That makes their journey much harder and thus less likely for them to succeed. That’s the entire idea.

This imbecile doesn't seem to realize that we have a coast gaurd for a reason.

But there is no wall on the coastlines so why do we need one on the southern border? And the coastlines are even longer than the Southern border.

You can't be this stupid.

 

[bripat9643]

I'm not pro illegal immigration but the price of vegetables and fruits could go through the roof without that cheap labor.

So what? Cheap produce isn’t an excuse to violate the law. Cheap produce also isn’t an excuse to exploit people. For ****’s sake - what is wrong with you?!?

You got to laugh when these leftwing idiots admit they were willing to exploit poor people so they can have a cheap salad.

Well...considering most of them are parasites who mooch off of society...it’s not surprising that they are all about getting stuff cheap at the expense of others.

We ARE society you delusional fool. My vote is just as powerful as yours. My American citizenship weighs just as much as yours in the political arena. My tax dollars are just as valuable as yours. Who the fug do you think you RW zombies are? You aren't special and you sure don't own this country. It is mine as much as yours.

We won the election moron.

 

[beagle9]

Again: Tell us what you propose to put up for a vote in Congress. If you can't tell us what you want Congress to vote on, then shut the **** up.

I propose Trump do like he said he would do and like you specifically l said he would do and not promis amnesty after saying “no amnesty “ to get elected. Keep on, many remember your tantrums when they said amnesty was coming. When you get onboard with amnesty sweety?

So... Here is Trump's deal (one I predicted before Trump negotiated it BTW):

* ONE THIRD of the undocumented foreigners will have a path to citizenship

* The wall will not affect 46 percent of the undocumented foreigners that come here through legal means and then never leave

* So, once you subtract the alleged costs of 76 percent of the undocumented population, the wall becomes more expensive than any proposed benefit

* The anti-immigrant lobby likes to dwell on the alleged "costs" of undocumented foreigners being here. Their accounting is highly dishonest for an accounting ledger has two sides. Nobody has posted the amount of taxes the undocumented foreigner pays NOR, more importantly how much money they generate by producing more work for less money

* Presupposing that a wall is erected and you give a third of those undocumented foreigners a pathway to citizenship, it will leave the door open for their families to come here.

Oh, the right will claim that Trump is saying that parents of Dreamers and so forth will not qualify as people that come here, but don't forget that the United States Supreme Court will weigh in. Of the NINE Justices, you have six Catholics and three Jews. There is no way in Hell that the Court is going to allow the government to separate families over a federal civil misdemeanor like improper entry.

* We are nearing statistical zero unemployment, thereby negating any need for a wall

* AFTER you've paid for the wall and the Dreamers and their families become Democrats, they will undo all of that effort and the wall will become irrelevant... So, why the wall?

With the wall comes armed drones and drones with cameras along with an army of ninja clad federal mercenaries that won't go away just because the wall becomes irrelevant. And so there will come a ONE WORLD POLICE FORCE with the tools and manpower to watch every American 24 / 7 / 365 and jeopardize every Liberty our forefathers fought, bled and died in order to secure.

You don't get to add the people given amnesty to the yearly total, moron. That's a one time deal.The wall will take care of 60% of the yearly total, and that's well worth it. That will ensure we don't ever have to grant an amnesty again, which is precisely why youre against it. You're just another open-borders douchebag.

Your fantasies about what the wall leads to are hilarious, to say the least. Where has this ever happened?

There is a village somehere missing its idiot.

. You speak as if the Demon-crats won't ever be in power again... To tackle the problem within this nation (that has truly caused this massive problem) is the best bet, and yes secure that border.

The reason to build the wall is precisely because the Democrats may get back into power. I have no idea what I said that makes you conclude that I think that can't happen. It's you that behaves as if we have all the time in the world, and that we can dicker endlessly about the price of the wall and where to build it.

Just get the ******* money up front. Then we can worry about the details.

. A wall has a function in which makes it work, and that function is run by human beings. If the Demon-crats get back into power, and they abandon this wall along with it's enforcement of, then it becomes a wall in which you'll have a Demon-crat president standing a top of it saying "supporters tear down this wall". He or she will appear the heroes of the world if this happens.

It's best to refocus, and get the precise and exact things needed to solve this huge problem, and to do it in a way that favors conservatives in the end.

Like Trump said, "he is a builder, and that's what he does is build things, and he does it under budget", but that's not the issue here with illegal immigration. It is far more complicated, and we don't need a simple but very costly barrier put up as a tiny band-aid on a huge open sore in which puss is steady oozing out of daily because we've been offered that in jest of. We need to solve the problem once and for all, and it is a whole lot more complicated than talking about expensive barriers being put in place that soon will be embarrassing, because once they are breeched (like we see in those videos), people just throw up their hands and give up.

I'm not an obstacle to solving the issue, but more of a pragmatic person that wants real border security in every way possible.

This issue undermining the conservative party and the nation (because you have the swamp wanting their cheap labor), is just unexceptable. We don't need a bandaid or bullcrap slung on the issue, we just need viable solutions that most Americans can agree upon.

 

[JoeB131]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial

1) A wall won't work. People will find ways around it as long as there are things on the other side they want.

2) Illegal Immigration is a net benefit for the country.

Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy

According to the Pew Research Hispanic Trends Project, there were 8.4 million unauthorized immigrants employed in the U.S.; representing 5.2 percent of the U.S. labor force (an increase from 3.8 percent in 2000). Their importance was highlighted in a report by Texas Comptroller Susan Combs that stated, “Without the undocumented population, Texas’ work force would decrease by 6.3 percent” and Texas’ gross state product would decrease by 2.1 percent. Furthermore, certain segments of the U.S. economy, like agriculture, are entirely dependent upon illegal immigrants.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture states that, “about half of the hired workers employed in U.S. crop agriculture were unauthorized, with the overwhelming majority of these workers coming from Mexico.” The USDA has also warned that, “any potential immigration reform could have significant impacts on the U.S. fruit and vegetable industry.” From the perspective of National Milk Producers Federation in 2009, retail milk prices would increase by 61 percent if its immigrant labor force were to be eliminated.

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial

1) A wall won't work. People will find ways around it as long as there are things on the other side they want.

Wrong.

2) Illegal Immigration is a net benefit for the country.

Wrong

2) Illegal Immigration is a net benefit for the country.

Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy

According to the Pew Research Hispanic Trends Project, there were 8.4 million unauthorized immigrants employed in the U.S.; representing 5.2 percent of the U.S. labor force (an increase from 3.8 percent in 2000). Their importance was highlighted in a report by Texas Comptroller Susan Combs that stated, “Without the undocumented population, Texas’ work force would decrease by 6.3 percent” and Texas’ gross state product would decrease by 2.1 percent. Furthermore, certain segments of the U.S. economy, like agriculture, are entirely dependent upon illegal immigrants.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture states that, “about half of the hired workers employed in U.S. crop agriculture were unauthorized, with the overwhelming majority of these workers coming from Mexico.” The USDA has also warned that, “any potential immigration reform could have significant impacts on the U.S. fruit and vegetable industry.” From the perspective of National Milk Producers Federation in 2009, retail milk prices would increase by 61 percent if its immigrant labor force were to be eliminated.

How does that prove I benefit from illegal aliens? It doesn't. No native born American benefits. "The economy" is an abstraction that doesn't have a mortgage to pay.

 

[beagle9]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial

1) A wall won't work. People will find ways around it as long as there are things on the other side they want.

Wrong.

2) Illegal Immigration is a net benefit for the country.

Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy

According to the Pew Research Hispanic Trends Project, there were 8.4 million unauthorized immigrants employed in the U.S.; representing 5.2 percent of the U.S. labor force (an increase from 3.8 percent in 2000). Their importance was highlighted in a report by Texas Comptroller Susan Combs that stated, “Without the undocumented population, Texas’ work force would decrease by 6.3 percent” and Texas’ gross state product would decrease by 2.1 percent. Furthermore, certain segments of the U.S. economy, like agriculture, are entirely dependent upon illegal immigrants.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture states that, “about half of the hired workers employed in U.S. crop agriculture were unauthorized, with the overwhelming majority of these workers coming from Mexico.” The USDA has also warned that, “any potential immigration reform could have significant impacts on the U.S. fruit and vegetable industry.” From the perspective of National Milk Producers Federation in 2009, retail milk prices would increase by 61 percent if its immigrant labor force were to be eliminated.

How does that prove I benefit from illegal aliens? It doesn't. No native born American benefits. "The economy" is an abstraction that doesn't have a mortgage to pay.

. The illegals in the end will be used by the Demon-crats (as they are attempting to do now), to continue to claim that the USA is a racist slave wage loving society in which benefits greatly off of a low skilled lower class community of people who are looked upon like pure scum by others due to their not being able to free themselves from the victimhood status that is being exploited in it all. We don't need to continue down these paths in which creates a huge population that will ultimately come back someday to haunt our children and grandchildren who will be blamed in it all. How can we be so selfish not to realize what goes on in it all, and what the long term affects are in it all ??

 

[bripat9643]

We've all heard the snowflake lies about the cost of the wall and the cost of illegal immigration. Here's a more credible examination of the facts.

Trump's Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year—Do The Math | National Economics Editorial

1) A wall won't work. People will find ways around it as long as there are things on the other side they want.

Wrong.

2) Illegal Immigration is a net benefit for the country.

Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy

According to the Pew Research Hispanic Trends Project, there were 8.4 million unauthorized immigrants employed in the U.S.; representing 5.2 percent of the U.S. labor force (an increase from 3.8 percent in 2000). Their importance was highlighted in a report by Texas Comptroller Susan Combs that stated, “Without the undocumented population, Texas’ work force would decrease by 6.3 percent” and Texas’ gross state product would decrease by 2.1 percent. Furthermore, certain segments of the U.S. economy, like agriculture, are entirely dependent upon illegal immigrants.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture states that, “about half of the hired workers employed in U.S. crop agriculture were unauthorized, with the overwhelming majority of these workers coming from Mexico.” The USDA has also warned that, “any potential immigration reform could have significant impacts on the U.S. fruit and vegetable industry.” From the perspective of National Milk Producers Federation in 2009, retail milk prices would increase by 61 percent if its immigrant labor force were to be eliminated.

How does that prove I benefit from illegal aliens? It doesn't. No native born American benefits. "The economy" is an abstraction that doesn't have a mortgage to pay.

. The illegals in the end will be used by the Demon-crats (as they are attempting to do now), to continue to claim that the USA is a racist slave wage loving society in which benefits greatly off of a low skilled lower class community of people who are looked upon like pure scum by others due to their not being able to free themselves from the victimhood status that is being exploited in it all. We don't need to continue down these paths in which creates a huge population that will ultimately come back someday to haunt our children and grandchildren who will be blamed in it all. How can we be so selfish not to realize what goes on in it all, and what the long term affects are in it all ??

The snowflakes claim Republicans are racist because they want cheap labor, but one of their main arguments for granting amnesty to illegals is that we need the cheap labor.

 

[JoeB131]

How does that prove I benefit from illegal aliens? It doesn't. No native born American benefits. "The economy" is an abstraction that doesn't have a mortgage to pay.

Guy, if you are such an unskilled loser that an illegal deprives you of the ability to pay your mortgage, then that's kind of on you.

Too bad you didn't develop work skills at some point.

 

[bripat9643]

How does that prove I benefit from illegal aliens? It doesn't. No native born American benefits. "The economy" is an abstraction that doesn't have a mortgage to pay.

Guy, if you are such an unskilled loser that an illegal deprives you of the ability to pay your mortgage, then that's kind of on you.

Too bad you didn't develop work skills at some point.

It's the H1-Bs who are hurting my ability to pay my mortgage. Over 3/4 of all hightech workers are immigrants.

You still didn't prove I benefit from illegal aliens. Blue collar workers definitely don't benefit. They're the ones who have to compete with them.

 

[JoeB131]

It's the H1-Bs who are hurting my ability to pay my mortgage. Over 3/4 of all hightech workers are immigrants.

Okay, guy, but that has nothing to do with illegal immigration. Those guys are LEGALLY immigrating, because again, your one percenter boss would rather hire them than you.

Probably because they won't be on the internet all day complaining about Mexicans and Immigrants and whoever else is making you mad.

You still didn't prove I benefit from illegal aliens. Blue collar workers definitely don't benefit. They're the ones who have to compete with them.

sure I did. They can buy agricultural products at affordable prices because the labor is there to harvest them.

 

[bripat9643]

It's the H1-Bs who are hurting my ability to pay my mortgage. Over 3/4 of all hightech workers are immigrants.

Okay, guy, but that has nothing to do with illegal immigration. Those guys are LEGALLY immigrating, because again, your one percenter boss would rather hire them than you.

Probably because they won't be on the internet all day complaining about Mexicans and Immigrants and whoever else is making you mad.

You still didn't prove I benefit from illegal aliens. Blue collar workers definitely don't benefit. They're the ones who have to compete with them.

sure I did. They can buy agricultural products at affordable prices because the labor is there to harvest them.

Americans who lost a job to an illegal didn't benefit, moron.