Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[Correll]

Straw man

Very few if any want "unlimited immigration".

I wonder why none of you address the fact that your Orange Hero not only knowingly hires illegals but actually has his own people getting them fake docs...

You are attacking the very idea of controlling the border. The implication of a border that anyone can just walk across is obvious.


It is not credible that you are too dim to see that.

There is no such implication.

There IS however the jobs magnet...symbolized by the President hiring illegals and actually helping them get fake docs

If any attempt to control the border, is attacked, the implication is that you are against controlling the border.


D'uh.


If the border is not controlled, than anyone can walk across it. That is an open border, and unlimited immigration.


Double D'uh.

 

[Lesh]

Straw man

Very few if any want "unlimited immigration".

I wonder why none of you address the fact that your Orange Hero not only knowingly hires illegals but actually has his own people getting them fake docs...

You are attacking the very idea of controlling the border. The implication of a border that anyone can just walk across is obvious.


It is not credible that you are too dim to see that.

There is no such implication.

There IS however the jobs magnet...symbolized by the President hiring illegals and actually helping them get fake docs

If any attempt to control the border, is attacked, the implication is that you are against controlling the border.


D'uh.


If the border is not controlled, than anyone can walk across it. That is an open border, and unlimited immigration.


Double D'uh.

Hey dumbass...the clean CR has 1.6 billion in it for border security

And newsflash...if we ever get to a place where you can not find work without real documents...very few would come across that border.

Of course when our President not only hires illegals but helps them get fake docs...well that place is a long way off

 

[Correll]

Straw man

Very few if any want "unlimited immigration".

I wonder why none of you address the fact that your Orange Hero not only knowingly hires illegals but actually has his own people getting them fake docs...

You are attacking the very idea of controlling the border. The implication of a border that anyone can just walk across is obvious.


It is not credible that you are too dim to see that.

There is no such implication.

There IS however the jobs magnet...symbolized by the President hiring illegals and actually helping them get fake docs

If any attempt to control the border, is attacked, the implication is that you are against controlling the border.


D'uh.


If the border is not controlled, than anyone can walk across it. That is an open border, and unlimited immigration.


Double D'uh.

Hey dumbass...the clean CR has 1.6 billion in it for border security

You libs attack anyone and anything that is about border security.


Your actions show what your true goals are.

 

[bripat9643]

Imagine, it only cost 36 bucks (for a ladder) to defeat a wall costing 21 billion.

A 30 foot ladder costs more like $500, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

Straw man

Very few if any want "unlimited immigration".

I wonder why none of you address the fact that your Orange Hero not only knowingly hires illegals but actually has his own people getting them fake docs...

You are attacking the very idea of controlling the border. The implication of a border that anyone can just walk across is obvious.


It is not credible that you are too dim to see that.

There is no such implication.

There IS however the jobs magnet...symbolized by the President hiring illegals and actually helping them get fake docs

If any attempt to control the border, is attacked, the implication is that you are against controlling the border.


D'uh.


If the border is not controlled, than anyone can walk across it. That is an open border, and unlimited immigration.


Double D'uh.

Hey dumbass...the clean CR has 1.6 billion in it for border security

And newsflash...if we ever get to a place where you can not find work without real documents...very few would come across that border.

Of course when our President not only hires illegals but helps them get fake docs...well that place is a long way off

As long as Dims are in Congress that is never going to happen.

 

[danielpalos]

lol. We don't have an immigration problem we have a money losing naturalization problem and allege to be Capitalists.

We have an immigration problem. Your babble is noted and dismissed.

just right wing fantasy like usual? there is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution; we have a naturalization clause.

Only Bad Capitalists lose money on public policies. Good Capitalists make money on public policies and don't whine about taxes. Only lousy right wing capital managers, do that.

Your unsupported and off topic assertions are noted and dismissed.


We have an immigration problem. Your denial is utterly silly.

there is no immigration clause. we have lousy naturalization policies.

national capitalists make money on border policy and national socialists don't care about losing money on border policy; Capitalism, what is that Sayeth national socialists.

As a Sovereign People we have the right to decide who we invite into our community.


Our laws are being massively violated.


That is an immigration problem and your denial is a vile lie.

the express power is naturalization, not immigration.

merely creating an underclass of "illegals" is not a capital solution.

 

[danielpalos]

The wall fixes part of the illegal immigration problem and pays for itself.

How does a 50 billion dollar wall "fix" a "problem" that

A. No one seriously wants fixed

B. Costs between 3 and 16 billion?

And when Trump has his OWN people providing fake docs to illegal workers you KNOW that no one (who matters) wants it "fixed". In fact they USE illegal immigrants to pad their bottom line. You're being played....again

Americans want this problem fixed.

Yes, we do. A wall solves nothing. We should be making money on border policy not losing money on border policy. We have a Commerce Clause and our Welfare Clause is General, not Common.

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

 

[Correll]

We have an immigration problem. Your babble is noted and dismissed.

just right wing fantasy like usual? there is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution; we have a naturalization clause.

Only Bad Capitalists lose money on public policies. Good Capitalists make money on public policies and don't whine about taxes. Only lousy right wing capital managers, do that.

Your unsupported and off topic assertions are noted and dismissed.


We have an immigration problem. Your denial is utterly silly.

there is no immigration clause. we have lousy naturalization policies.

national capitalists make money on border policy and national socialists don't care about losing money on border policy; Capitalism, what is that Sayeth national socialists.

As a Sovereign People we have the right to decide who we invite into our community.


Our laws are being massively violated.


That is an immigration problem and your denial is a vile lie.

the express power is naturalization, not immigration.

merely creating an underclass of "illegals" is not a capital solution.

That is the status quo you support.


I want to deport them all, and build the wall to stop them from coming back.

 

[Correll]

The wall fixes part of the illegal immigration problem and pays for itself.

How does a 50 billion dollar wall "fix" a "problem" that

A. No one seriously wants fixed

B. Costs between 3 and 16 billion?

And when Trump has his OWN people providing fake docs to illegal workers you KNOW that no one (who matters) wants it "fixed". In fact they USE illegal immigrants to pad their bottom line. You're being played....again

Americans want this problem fixed.

Yes, we do. A wall solves nothing. We should be making money on border policy not losing money on border policy. We have a Commerce Clause and our Welfare Clause is General, not Common.

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

Your meaningless babble is noted and dismissed.


Controlling who and want enters a nation is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the people would be against that.


You should return to the nation you are actually loyal to.

 

[Lesh]

How does a 50 billion dollar wall "fix" a "problem" that

A. No one seriously wants fixed

B. Costs between 3 and 16 billion?

And when Trump has his OWN people providing fake docs to illegal workers you KNOW that no one (who matters) wants it "fixed". In fact they USE illegal immigrants to pad their bottom line. You're being played....again

Americans want this problem fixed.

Yes, we do. A wall solves nothing. We should be making money on border policy not losing money on border policy. We have a Commerce Clause and our Welfare Clause is General, not Common.

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

Your meaningless babble is noted and dismissed.


Controlling who and want enters a nation is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the people would be against that.


You should return to the nation you are actually loyal to.

Mindlessly repeating your babble does nothing for you.

Are you saying that we should seall ALL our borders?

Sure sounds like it.

The wall is a SYMBOL. A very expensive inefficient symbol

 

[Correll]

Americans want this problem fixed.

Yes, we do. A wall solves nothing. We should be making money on border policy not losing money on border policy. We have a Commerce Clause and our Welfare Clause is General, not Common.

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

Your meaningless babble is noted and dismissed.


Controlling who and want enters a nation is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the people would be against that.


You should return to the nation you are actually loyal to.

Mindlessly repeating your babble does nothing for you.

Are you saying that we should seall ALL our borders?

Sure sounds like it.

The wall is a SYMBOL. A very expensive inefficient symbol

The Third World is not stampeding across all our borders.


Walls work. If you lefties did not think the wall would not work, you would not be so afraid of it.

 

[danielpalos]

just right wing fantasy like usual? there is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution; we have a naturalization clause.

Only Bad Capitalists lose money on public policies. Good Capitalists make money on public policies and don't whine about taxes. Only lousy right wing capital managers, do that.

Your unsupported and off topic assertions are noted and dismissed.


We have an immigration problem. Your denial is utterly silly.

there is no immigration clause. we have lousy naturalization policies.

national capitalists make money on border policy and national socialists don't care about losing money on border policy; Capitalism, what is that Sayeth national socialists.

As a Sovereign People we have the right to decide who we invite into our community.


Our laws are being massively violated.


That is an immigration problem and your denial is a vile lie.

the express power is naturalization, not immigration.

merely creating an underclass of "illegals" is not a capital solution.

That is the status quo you support.


I want to deport them all, and build the wall to stop them from coming back.

lol. there is no immigration clause. it is an Establishment clause for an uniform rule of Naturalization.

 

[danielpalos]

How does a 50 billion dollar wall "fix" a "problem" that

A. No one seriously wants fixed

B. Costs between 3 and 16 billion?

And when Trump has his OWN people providing fake docs to illegal workers you KNOW that no one (who matters) wants it "fixed". In fact they USE illegal immigrants to pad their bottom line. You're being played....again

Americans want this problem fixed.

Yes, we do. A wall solves nothing. We should be making money on border policy not losing money on border policy. We have a Commerce Clause and our Welfare Clause is General, not Common.

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

Your meaningless babble is noted and dismissed.


Controlling who and want enters a nation is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the people would be against that.


You should return to the nation you are actually loyal to.

Our Constitution; unlike the infidel, protestant, and renegade right wing.

 

[Lesh]

Yes, we do. A wall solves nothing. We should be making money on border policy not losing money on border policy. We have a Commerce Clause and our Welfare Clause is General, not Common.

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

Your meaningless babble is noted and dismissed.


Controlling who and want enters a nation is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the people would be against that.


You should return to the nation you are actually loyal to.

Mindlessly repeating your babble does nothing for you.

Are you saying that we should seall ALL our borders?

Sure sounds like it.

The wall is a SYMBOL. A very expensive inefficient symbol

The Third World is not stampeding across all our borders.


Walls work. If you lefties did not think the wall would not work, you would not be so afraid of it.

A. So it's only the third world that bothers you?

B.With half of illegals coming from OTHER than our southern border...apparently this "stampede" is happening all over the place...but that doesn't bother you

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, we do. A wall solves nothing. We should be making money on border policy not losing money on border policy. We have a Commerce Clause and our Welfare Clause is General, not Common.

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

Your meaningless babble is noted and dismissed.


Controlling who and want enters a nation is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the people would be against that.


You should return to the nation you are actually loyal to.

Mindlessly repeating your babble does nothing for you.

Are you saying that we should seall ALL our borders?

Sure sounds like it.

The wall is a SYMBOL. A very expensive inefficient symbol

The Third World is not stampeding across all our borders.


Walls work. If you lefties did not think the wall would not work, you would not be so afraid of it.

lousy right wing management has wars on crime, drugs, and terror they refuse to pay wartime tax rates for, and complain about their social results.

 

[Correll]

Your unsupported and off topic assertions are noted and dismissed.


We have an immigration problem. Your denial is utterly silly.

there is no immigration clause. we have lousy naturalization policies.

national capitalists make money on border policy and national socialists don't care about losing money on border policy; Capitalism, what is that Sayeth national socialists.

As a Sovereign People we have the right to decide who we invite into our community.


Our laws are being massively violated.


That is an immigration problem and your denial is a vile lie.

the express power is naturalization, not immigration.

merely creating an underclass of "illegals" is not a capital solution.

That is the status quo you support.


I want to deport them all, and build the wall to stop them from coming back.

lol. there is no immigration clause. it is an Establishment clause for an uniform rule of Naturalization.

We don't want to naturalize them.


We want them to go home. You should too. It is obvious that you are more loyal to your fellow Mexicans than to your supposedly fellow Americans.

 

[Correll]

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

Your meaningless babble is noted and dismissed.


Controlling who and want enters a nation is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the people would be against that.


You should return to the nation you are actually loyal to.

Mindlessly repeating your babble does nothing for you.

Are you saying that we should seall ALL our borders?

Sure sounds like it.

The wall is a SYMBOL. A very expensive inefficient symbol

The Third World is not stampeding across all our borders.


Walls work. If you lefties did not think the wall would not work, you would not be so afraid of it.

A. So it's only the third world that bothers you?

No.

B.With half of illegals coming from OTHER than our southern border...apparently this "stampede" is happening all over the place...but that doesn't bother you

The Wall addresses half the problem. That is worth doing.

This is simply shit. Stop putting the effort in to confuse the issue and it will make sense to you immediately.

 

[Correll]

A wall will help keep out unwanted outsiders.


D'uh.

there is no wall building power. the commerce clause must be our common defense.

Your meaningless babble is noted and dismissed.


Controlling who and want enters a nation is the most basic function of good governance.


Only an enemy of the people would be against that.


You should return to the nation you are actually loyal to.

Mindlessly repeating your babble does nothing for you.

Are you saying that we should seall ALL our borders?

Sure sounds like it.

The wall is a SYMBOL. A very expensive inefficient symbol

The Third World is not stampeding across all our borders.


Walls work. If you lefties did not think the wall would not work, you would not be so afraid of it.

lousy right wing management has wars on crime, drugs, and terror they refuse to pay wartime tax rates for, and complain about their social results.

I'm willing to pay to deport all the illegals and build the Wall.


You should go home. YOu are not loyal to your fellow Americans.

 

[danielpalos]

there is no immigration clause. we have lousy naturalization policies.

national capitalists make money on border policy and national socialists don't care about losing money on border policy; Capitalism, what is that Sayeth national socialists.

As a Sovereign People we have the right to decide who we invite into our community.


Our laws are being massively violated.


That is an immigration problem and your denial is a vile lie.

the express power is naturalization, not immigration.

merely creating an underclass of "illegals" is not a capital solution.

That is the status quo you support.


I want to deport them all, and build the wall to stop them from coming back.

lol. there is no immigration clause. it is an Establishment clause for an uniform rule of Naturalization.

We don't want to naturalize them.


We want them to go home. You should too. It is obvious that you are more loyal to your fellow Mexicans than to your supposedly fellow Americans.

in right wing fantasy all things are possible.

We have a Constitution and the establishment clause is Express not Implied.

 

[danielpalos]

anybody can come to the US as a tourist.

seeking asylum is a separate issue.

anyone coming in as a tourist should require at least ten years of residence before applying for naturalization.

Tourism is the first, second, or third largest employer in twenty-nine States.