Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

[P@triot]

After decades of spineless politicians, it is so nice to see President Trump providing real leadership...

Trump Says Government Shutdown Will Continue Until There's a Wall

 

[Lesh]

Didn't Republicans pass a trillion dollar budget that didn't include a border wall?

Why is this an issue now?

Again..I ask

 

[danielpalos]

we have the Richest poor in the world.

Bingo! Ding! Ding! Ding! Indisputable proof that we do not need any of these (unconstitutional) social programs. You greedy parasites are just fleecing the American people.

We have a First World economy. We have to have the richest poor in the world. Only the right wing, never gets it.

We have a general welfare clause not an unconstitutional general warfare clause. You greedy parasites are just fleecing the American people.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Commerce Clause is a law that has to be enforced wherever it fits.

And it doesn't fit here at all. But you know what does? Our immigration laws. And they must be enforced. Every time. Without fail.

lol. This is an Express power: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,

I know you're a junior high dropout, but seriously snowflake, "LOL" is not an argument. You've already humiliated yourself. You've simultaneously made the adamant argument that the federal government has unlimited power due to the "general welfare" clause while also claiming that the federal government cannot enforce immigration, narcotics, or crime because they lack "express" powers.

How do you keep showing up here? I would be so ashamed if I were caught contradicting myself to that degree. Furthermore, the "express power" that you keep pointing out ("to establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization") is exactly what the federal government did. Now, those laws are being violated. They have every right to enforce them. Only and idiot and a jack-ass would argue otherwise.

You needed a valid argument to prove your point. Naturalization is not immigration.

 

[Mac1958]

I'm still curious to know why Trump is willing to fall on the sword for just a fraction of the funds needed.

I realize he needs to keep his base happy, but is a fraction of what's needed really going to keep them happy?

 

[Norman]

I'm still curious to know why Trump is willing to fall on the sword for just a fraction of the funds needed.

I realize he needs to keep his base happy, but is a fraction of what's needed really going to keep them happy?

He has to start somewhere. If he can't get a fraction there won't be a wall. Fraction at a time he will build that wall.

It's hard to comprehend why the wall hasn't been built yet. Just imagine if it was built 40 years ago, none of this "division" bullcrap. Just one beautiful prosperous united American nation. Common sense, but we are dealing with idiots.

 

[Mac1958]

I'm still curious to know why Trump is willing to fall on the sword for just a fraction of the funds needed. I realize he needs to keep his base happy, but is a fraction of what's needed really going to keep them happy?

He has to start somewhere. If he can't get a fraction there won't be a wall. Fraction at a time he will build that wall. It's hard to comprehend why the wall hasn't been built yet. Just imagine if it was built 40 years ago, none of this "division" bullcrap. Just one beautiful prosperous united American nation. Common sense, but we are dealing with idiots.

But he's had two years with total party control.
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[Norman]

I'm still curious to know why Trump is willing to fall on the sword for just a fraction of the funds needed. I realize he needs to keep his base happy, but is a fraction of what's needed really going to keep them happy?

He has to start somewhere. If he can't get a fraction there won't be a wall. Fraction at a time he will build that wall. It's hard to comprehend why the wall hasn't been built yet. Just imagine if it was built 40 years ago, none of this "division" bullcrap. Just one beautiful prosperous united American nation. Common sense, but we are dealing with idiots.

But he's had two years with total party control.
.

Control of the cuck party isn't going to do you much good. Thankfully now there are more people with testicular mass in the government.

 

[Mac1958]

I'm still curious to know why Trump is willing to fall on the sword for just a fraction of the funds needed. I realize he needs to keep his base happy, but is a fraction of what's needed really going to keep them happy?

He has to start somewhere. If he can't get a fraction there won't be a wall. Fraction at a time he will build that wall. It's hard to comprehend why the wall hasn't been built yet. Just imagine if it was built 40 years ago, none of this "division" bullcrap. Just one beautiful prosperous united American nation. Common sense, but we are dealing with idiots.

But he's had two years with total party control.
.

Control of the cuck party isn't going to do you much good. Thankfully now there are more people with testicular mass in the government.

Well, he's going to need a lot more people like that, because he doesn't have enough and the Dems are moving in on Wednesday. I guess you can hope for a Trumpster Wave in 2020.
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[Norman]

I'm still curious to know why Trump is willing to fall on the sword for just a fraction of the funds needed. I realize he needs to keep his base happy, but is a fraction of what's needed really going to keep them happy?

He has to start somewhere. If he can't get a fraction there won't be a wall. Fraction at a time he will build that wall. It's hard to comprehend why the wall hasn't been built yet. Just imagine if it was built 40 years ago, none of this "division" bullcrap. Just one beautiful prosperous united American nation. Common sense, but we are dealing with idiots.

But he's had two years with total party control.
.

Control of the cuck party isn't going to do you much good. Thankfully now there are more people with testicular mass in the government.

Well, he's going to need a lot more people like that, because he doesn't have enough and the Dems are moving in on Wednesday. I guess you can hope for a Trumpster Wave in 2020.
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No wall no nation.

From that point on it will be a preparation for the civil war. Although, I suppose many are already preparing.

 

[Lesh]

No wall no nation?

What a crock. We never had a wall and we HAVE a nation.

This is not a crisis in the real world. It's a crisis in your mind.

In fact illegal immigration has been declining for years.

And hey...Trump not only EMPLOYS illegals...his people get them fake documents

 

[Norman]

No wall no nation?

What a crock. We never had a wall and we HAVE a nation.

This is not a crisis in the real world. It's a crisis in your mind.

In fact illegal immigration has been declining for years.

And hey...Trump not only EMPLOYS illegals...his people get them fake documents

Yeah of course, until bunch of people crossed over the border and are soon destined to become the majority. It was a brilliant idea not having a wall wasn't it?

Build that wall now, and maybe we can be a nation in the future too.

 

[Lesh]

Soon to be a majority?

There are 11 million illegals and that number is declining...in a nation of over 300 million.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[deanrd]

Imagine, it only cost 36 bucks (for a ladder) to defeat a wall costing 21 billion.

 

[Norman]

Soon to be a majority?

There are 11 million illegals and that number is declining...in a nation of over 300 million.

WTF are you talking about?

I wonder where you got that it's only the illegals that are anti-American. That is not the case... You may read this very forum to find out as much.

 

[Lesh]

Soon to be a majority?

There are 11 million illegals and that number is declining...in a nation of over 300 million.

WTF are you talking about?

I wonder where you got that it's only the illegals that are anti-American. That is not the case... You may read this very forum to find out as much.

Wait...so you're "concerned" about something OTHER than illegals coming across the southern border?

Then why all the concern about a wall?

It strikes me that something bigger is going on here and that "the wall" is really only a very expensive symbol.

 

[Norman]

Soon to be a majority?

There are 11 million illegals and that number is declining...in a nation of over 300 million.

WTF are you talking about?

I wonder where you got that it's only the illegals that are anti-American. That is not the case... You may read this very forum to find out as much.

Wait...so you're "concerned" about something OTHER than illegals coming across the southern border?

Then why all the concern about a wall?

It strikes me that something bigger is going on here and that "the wall" is really only a very expensive symbol.

The wall is the obvious starting point. If the nation doesn't even build that it's going to be business as usual, which means the end of the nation in a decade or two.

 

[danielpalos]

No wall no nation?

What a crock. We never had a wall and we HAVE a nation.

This is not a crisis in the real world. It's a crisis in your mind.

In fact illegal immigration has been declining for years.

And hey...Trump not only EMPLOYS illegals...his people get them fake documents

Yeah of course, until bunch of people crossed over the border and are soon destined to become the majority. It was a brilliant idea not having a wall wasn't it?

Build that wall now, and maybe we can be a nation in the future too.

there is no express wall building power. Our Founding Fathers must have been for Spartanism.

 

[Norman]

No wall no nation?

What a crock. We never had a wall and we HAVE a nation.

This is not a crisis in the real world. It's a crisis in your mind.

In fact illegal immigration has been declining for years.

And hey...Trump not only EMPLOYS illegals...his people get them fake documents

Yeah of course, until bunch of people crossed over the border and are soon destined to become the majority. It was a brilliant idea not having a wall wasn't it?

Build that wall now, and maybe we can be a nation in the future too.

there is no express wall building power. Our Founding Fathers must have been for Spartanism.

The government absolutely has the power to build that wall and defend the nation from any external threats.

 

[danielpalos]

No wall no nation?

What a crock. We never had a wall and we HAVE a nation.

This is not a crisis in the real world. It's a crisis in your mind.

In fact illegal immigration has been declining for years.

And hey...Trump not only EMPLOYS illegals...his people get them fake documents

Yeah of course, until bunch of people crossed over the border and are soon destined to become the majority. It was a brilliant idea not having a wall wasn't it?

Build that wall now, and maybe we can be a nation in the future too.

there is no express wall building power. Our Founding Fathers must have been for Spartanism.

The government absolutely has the power to build that wall and defend the nation from any external threats.

we have a refugee problem not a common defense problem. there is no express wall building power. we have a general welfare clause not a general warfare clause.