Trump's moves on RACE

Mac1958 said:
What hasn't sunk into your skull is that I agree with that.
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So why do you keep whining that some deep intellectual exercise is required to understand that discrimination is "illegal" and "immoral" as explained by President Trump?
 
Mac1958 said:
My biggest disappointment with Barack Obama was the fact that no American President has ever been better-equipped to firmly address America's profound racial issues, and he essentially voted "present" instead of tackling them head on.

Biden? Uh, no.

On the other hand, and this is not easy for me to say, Donald Trump does find himself in a position to address race. Why that is, is a separate issue. But the way he's handling it -- decrees that just summarily wipe away any number of issues centering around race -- is a mistake. Instead, he could be carefully explaining WHY he believes that initiatives like DEI are not in America's best interests, and neither are they in the best interest of those they purport to be "helping". Isn't that the point of all this?

The opportunity is right there, waiting for him. But he's not taking it. Obviously he personally doesn't have the capacity to communicate these things contemporaneously, but that's not necessarily needed. He can do it in a speech that is carefully written for him (as long as he sticks to the words, of course). Get the ideas out into society, get Americans to talk to each other about it. But it has to start with Trump.

Instead, they're just going to cram this stuff down the country's throat, with no explanations, no discussion, no communication. It's a terribly wasted opportunity.


www.whitehouse.gov

Ending Radical And Wasteful Government DEI Programs And Preferencing

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1.
www.whitehouse.gov
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Obama set race relations back 50 years. This present shit is a lie like most of what you post. Obama started the war with police because a Black professor had a problem with a cop doing his job. His ignoring of "hands up don't shoot" and the start of BLM on his watch is still fucking things up. Trayvon could have been his son didn't help either. The guy was the most divisive president we ever had and the country is still dealing with the damages of his 8 years of America hating bullshit.
 
IM2 said:
Until you end white identity politics, identity politics will not end. Responding to identity politics with facts is not identity politics. Responding to racism in political campaigns by calling it out, isn't identity politics. We have allowed the far right to determine the narrative and that has to stop.
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Identity politics is the Left's baby. You are projecting. You see the problem and deny you are part of it.
 
IM2 said:
Until you end white identity politics, identity politics will not end. Responding to identity politics with facts is not identity politics. Responding to racism in political campaigns by calling it out, isn't identity politics. We have allowed the far right to determine the narrative and that has to stop.
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What I'm calling "identity politics" is government policy that distributes favor based on one's identity group. It's essentially a kind of corporatism, where the government seeks to balance the desires of various special interest groups. This approach sacrifices equal rights in the name of social justice - ie "equity".

What do you mean when you say "white identity politics"?
 
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Lastamender said:
Obama set race relations back 50 years. This present shit is a lie like most of what you post. Obama started the war with police because a Black professor had a problem with a cop doing his job. His ignoring of "hands up don't shoot" and the start of BLM on his watch is still fucking things up. Trayvon could have been his son didn't help either. The guy was the most divisive president we ever had and the country is still dealing with the damages of his 8 years of America hating bullshit.
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What about Trump starting the Birtherism craze before Obama stepped foot in Office?
 
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Mac1958 said:
Sure there is. It just takes a little more effort and a little less emotion.
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No Mac there isn't. It's about fact not emotion. And you need to go study what the facts are. You aren't going to fix the inequality white racism has continued to create by ending the policies meant to fix it because whites are complaining without evidence that such policies discriminate against whites. DEI is not just about race THAT IS THE FACT OF THIS MATTER, so then you trap yourself in the right-wing narrative when you argue about hiring someone because of their race.

These people want the easy way out of a situation they made bad for everyone else but them. They want to continue benefiting from the wrong they continue to perpetuate. Yet they preach to everyone else about being responsible. There is no middle against wrong.

The equal protection clause in the Fourteenth Amendment was made after slavery to protect blacks from discrimination. When the Fourteenth Amendment passed, “quotas” were one hundred percent white; blacks need not apply. So I see a problem with using the equal protection clause as a defense when whites are nearly 80 percent of all employees in the workforce and more than 80 percent in management positions. I find it difficult to listen to or read white men crying about anti-white discrimination when white men are 36 percent of the population, about 70 percent of the workforce, and way more than 80 percent of all management positions. So like I said Mac, there is no middle and that is based on a thorough understanding of the motherfucking facts.
 
Mac1958 said:
If you don't understand what I'm saying, that's fine. No other Trumpster does either.

Never mind.
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We understand completely what you are saying. You claim Trump hasn't explained why discrimination is bad. He has, for more than a solid year, at least at every Trump rally. But you have an irrational hatred for the man and all his supporters that prevents you from listening.
 
Rawley said:
We understand completely what you are saying. You claim Trump hasn't explained why discrimination is bad. He has, for more than a solid year, at least at every Trump rally. But you have an irrational hatred for the man and all his supporters that prevents you from listening.
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The discrimination trump talked about doesn't exist.
 
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