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Trump does whatever he wants. Immunity would protect him from whatever crimes he has committed and will commit.
The case for Trump and immunity is over.
The case for Trump and immunity is over.
Trumps "immunity" defence is punctured by the first question
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Oddball
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He doesn't have immunity from impeachment, nor would he have immunity from criminal prosecution following what would be a obvious removal from office.
As previously noted, the question was asked in order to get bedwetting loons like you to wet the bed....It worked.
Lastamender
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Who asked the question??
"The hypothetical was presented to Trump attorney John Sauer who answered with a “qualified yes” that a former president would be immune from prosecution on that matter or even on selling pardons."
...."Sauer argued that presidents can only be criminally prosecuted if they have already been tried and convicted by the Senate.
“He would have to be impeached and convicted,” Sauer replied."
IF TRUE, refuse the resignation and impeach. Then convict. Seems pretty simple. Then HANG the fukker!!!
Another view from a retarded source.
“You’re saying a president could sell pardons, could sell military secrets, could order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival,” Judge Florence Pan told Trump lawyer John Sauer during arguments at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals over whether he is immune prosecution.
Sauer told the three-judge panel a president would be swiftly impeached and convicted for ordering the murder of a rival. But he argued that without an impeachment, the Supreme Court has held that a president’s official acts are never reviewable by the courts.
“He would have to be and would speedily be impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution,” Sauer said. “There is a political process that would have to occur under our Constitution.”
“If there’s no impeachment ever, and no conviction, then the official acts are immune. Period,” Sauder added later.
Trump, who attended the hearing, contends he is immune to federal charges of conspiring to interfere in the 2020 election because his actions took place while he was president. He was impeached in the House of Representatives and acquitted in the Senate for similar allegations that he incited the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021.
Of course if a DemoKKKrat did it there would be no impeachment so the asshole would get away with it!!
Greg
"The hypothetical was presented to Trump attorney John Sauer who answered with a “qualified yes” that a former president would be immune from prosecution on that matter or even on selling pardons."
...."Sauer argued that presidents can only be criminally prosecuted if they have already been tried and convicted by the Senate.
“He would have to be impeached and convicted,” Sauer replied."
IF TRUE, refuse the resignation and impeach. Then convict. Seems pretty simple. Then HANG the fukker!!!
Another view from a retarded source.
“You’re saying a president could sell pardons, could sell military secrets, could order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival,” Judge Florence Pan told Trump lawyer John Sauer during arguments at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals over whether he is immune prosecution.
Sauer told the three-judge panel a president would be swiftly impeached and convicted for ordering the murder of a rival. But he argued that without an impeachment, the Supreme Court has held that a president’s official acts are never reviewable by the courts.
“He would have to be and would speedily be impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution,” Sauer said. “There is a political process that would have to occur under our Constitution.”
“If there’s no impeachment ever, and no conviction, then the official acts are immune. Period,” Sauder added later.
Trump, who attended the hearing, contends he is immune to federal charges of conspiring to interfere in the 2020 election because his actions took place while he was president. He was impeached in the House of Representatives and acquitted in the Senate for similar allegations that he incited the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021.
Trump could order SEAL Team 6 to kill rivals and avoid prosecution if not impeached, lawyer says
Murder, peddling pardons, selling secrets: Trump's lawyer said all presidents are immune from prosecution unless the Senate first convicts them.
www.usatoday.com
Of course if a DemoKKKrat did it there would be no impeachment so the asshole would get away with it!!
Greg
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Utter bullshit and typical of leftoids.
However, playing along with the idiot Biden appointed judge, sure. Then the House impeaches and the Senate convicts, and per the Framers he could then be charged.
OTOH, that President could pardon himself before being removed and then no charges.
Øbama who ordered the drone killing of two American citizens comes to mind. But e didn't pardon himself. Oops.
Do your homework. These guys were Al-Qaida, killing Americans. they were traitors.
The Obama administration authorized the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, a US citizen and former al-Qaida propagandist, in a drone strike in Yemen in 2011. The decision was made based on the Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF), a broad and controversial 2001 law that played a major role in the legal decision to kill Awlaki. The Obama administration argued that the AUMF’s authority to use lethal force abroad also applied to a United States citizen who is part of the forces of an enemy authorization within the scope of the force authorization. The administration contended that the protection of US citizenship was effectively removed by the AUMF .
Obama would never 'pardon himself', that's an abuse of one's authority under the concept that 'no one can serve as his own judge'.
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The prosecutors have Trump running around the country making absolutely ridiculous arguments in court. Should make you wonder why a man purported to be an innocent and a victim of persecution would go to such extremes when defending themselves.
MarathonMike
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And then the Easter Bunny showed up and told them to go home, and everyone was happy. The End.
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Those promoting this utterly ridiculous notion are ignoring the obvious. No SEAL team that received such orders would ever accept them or act on them
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Where's the proof?
Giuliani has to pay 150 million because what he claimed to be proof wasn't. And you don't have any proof either.
Because it didn't happen.
Lastamender
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Chillicothe
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OK, poster Lastamender, you allege Biden didn't win legally.
Prove it.
Prove Biden didn't win legally.
Man up. Cowboy up. Show your grit. Show credibility.
"The hypothetical was presented to Trump attorney John Sauer who answered with a “qualified yes” that a former president would be immune from prosecution on that matter or even on selling pardons."
...."Sauer argued that presidents can only be criminally prosecuted if they have already been tried and convicted by the Senate.
“He would have to be impeached and convicted,” Sauer replied."
IF TRUE, refuse the resignation and impeach. Then convict. Seems pretty simple. Then HANG the fukker!!!
Another view from a retarded source.
“You’re saying a president could sell pardons, could sell military secrets, could order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival,” Judge Florence Pan told Trump lawyer John Sauer during arguments at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals over whether he is immune prosecution.
Sauer told the three-judge panel a president would be swiftly impeached and convicted for ordering the murder of a rival. But he argued that without an impeachment, the Supreme Court has held that a president’s official acts are never reviewable by the courts.
“He would have to be and would speedily be impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution,” Sauer said. “There is a political process that would have to occur under our Constitution.”
“If there’s no impeachment ever, and no conviction, then the official acts are immune. Period,” Sauder added later.
Trump, who attended the hearing, contends he is immune to federal charges of conspiring to interfere in the 2020 election because his actions took place while he was president. He was impeached in the House of Representatives and acquitted in the Senate for similar allegations that he incited the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021.
Of course if a DemoKKKrat did it there would be no successful impeachment so the asshole would get away with it!!
Frankly that was the CORRECT answer by Sauer so there's that.
Greg
...."Sauer argued that presidents can only be criminally prosecuted if they have already been tried and convicted by the Senate.
“He would have to be impeached and convicted,” Sauer replied."
IF TRUE, refuse the resignation and impeach. Then convict. Seems pretty simple. Then HANG the fukker!!!
Another view from a retarded source.
“You’re saying a president could sell pardons, could sell military secrets, could order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival,” Judge Florence Pan told Trump lawyer John Sauer during arguments at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals over whether he is immune prosecution.
Sauer told the three-judge panel a president would be swiftly impeached and convicted for ordering the murder of a rival. But he argued that without an impeachment, the Supreme Court has held that a president’s official acts are never reviewable by the courts.
“He would have to be and would speedily be impeached and convicted before the criminal prosecution,” Sauer said. “There is a political process that would have to occur under our Constitution.”
“If there’s no impeachment ever, and no conviction, then the official acts are immune. Period,” Sauder added later.
Trump, who attended the hearing, contends he is immune to federal charges of conspiring to interfere in the 2020 election because his actions took place while he was president. He was impeached in the House of Representatives and acquitted in the Senate for similar allegations that he incited the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021.
Trump could order SEAL Team 6 to kill rivals and avoid prosecution if not impeached, lawyer says
Murder, peddling pardons, selling secrets: Trump's lawyer said all presidents are immune from prosecution unless the Senate first convicts them.
Trump could order SEAL Team 6 to kill rivals and avoid prosecution if not impeached, lawyer says
Murder, peddling pardons, selling secrets: Trump's lawyer said all presidents are immune from prosecution unless the Senate first convicts them.
www.usatoday.com
Of course if a DemoKKKrat did it there would be no successful impeachment so the asshole would get away with it!!
Frankly that was the CORRECT answer by Sauer so there's that.
Greg
MagicMike
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You sepelled attempted coup wrong.
Lastamender
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Kondor3
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A President is not a king.
No blanket immunity.
No blanket immunity.
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So? It's not proof.
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Lastamender Can't do it.
Lakhota
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Trump is a world class MORON!!!!!
Lakhota
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This should strike fear in the heart of EVERY American who gives a damn about our struggling democracy…
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