Trump's Going To Shove Kate's Law Down Democrats Throat

[Ray From Cleveland]

And what do con artists do?

How'd "getting the Taj Mahal done" work out?

Con artists have to actually do something to con the people. Liberal crystal balls don't count as determining who is and isn't a con artist, actions do.

We were conned into believing that health insurance was going to be affordable to everyone. We were conned into believing that families could save up to $2,500 a year in health insurance premiums.

See? We have evidence of what a con artist actually is.

A con artist is somebody who leeches millions off the gullible with the aforementioned playbook maxim "you don't sell solutions; you sell feelings", then pays out 25 million bucks to settle the inevitable fraud case (after of course denying he'd ever do that) so that it wouldn't be sitting in front of the Electoral College when it came time to vote.

Trump is a fighter. The only reason he GAVE that money away is so he wouldn't have such a distraction to prevent him from doing his new (and such an important) job. His primary focus is now leading this country in the right direction, and he didn't need petty lawsuits to get in his way.

If Hil-Lair had won the election, Trump would have fought these losers all the way to defeat. He simply doesn't have that kind of time now.

On our planet we have what we call "lawyers" to handle that. They take all the time they need, and then invent more.

No, he settled because he knew where it was going.

Lawyers or no lawyers, if you need to testify you have to show up. That would involve the entire security team to shut down the airport, shut down the roads, clear the hallways to the courtroom, the whole ball of wax. Plus of course all the time it would take. I don't know how many millions it costs for a proper presidential escort, but Trump waived all that just to get it out of the way.


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[Doc1]

Absolutely.

Let's also remember that the number of undocumented aliens in the US STOPPED GROWING early in the Obama administration.

That's because he changed the definition of deportation. After he got in, being deported means getting caught on the border and told to turn around and go back to Mexico:

High deportation figures are misleading

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/...in-last-five-years.html?ref=juliapreston&_r=1

Nope. It's actually because border security has greatly improved over the last couple of decades, despite the colorful emotional-hook myth of 'fence jumpers'.

>> But even if we were to build a wall, and elect a president interested in using it to protect America’s sovereignty, we’d be missing most of the problem — because the majority of new illegal aliens are actually visa overstayers. This is the most important — albeit buried — finding in a paper published this year by the Center for Migration Studies, an expansionist outfit run by the Scalabrinian Catholic order that nonetheless does serious work. Co-authored by Robert Warren, head of statistics for the old INS, the paper finds that the share of overstays among new illegal aliens has been rising pretty steadily since the 1980s and surpassed border infiltrators in 2008. The paper’s most recent estimate is for 2012, when nearly 60 percent of new illegal immigrants are believed to have entered legally on some sort of visa (or visa-waiver status, if they’re from a developed country) and then just stayed on after their time expired.

An indication of what’s driving this overstay crisis was highlighted by my colleague David North in a recent paper. He found a huge increase in the overall number of “non-immigrant” (i.e., ostensibly temporary) visas issued by the State Department, and an accompanying decline in the percentage of applications being denied. In just five years, from 2009 to 2014, the number of visas issued grew 71 percent, while the percentage of visa denials dropped from 18.6 percent to 15.3 percent. << ---- On Immigration, Fighting the Last War​

But of course the imagery of "building a wall" and of hapless rapists screaming "curses, foiled again" in Spanish will sell as emotional hook much better than "we're going to tighten up our visas and the Treasury is going to pay for it". Because again --- "you don't sell solutions ... you sell feelings".

So because Trump wants to build a wall, that means he's going to ignore all the other things that contribute to our illegal problem?

No. It simply means what I laid out originally --- that he's a huckster who uses emotional hooks like a fake "wall" to sell himself. It actually tells us nothing about what he actually will or won't do, either with a wall or with anything else. Because it's hot air. It's a sales pitch. And if you know anything about Rump sales pitches.... think Rump the Game. Or Rump Shuttle. Or Rump Vodka. Rump Steaks. You get the idea.

It doesn't need to be that complicated -- it's a simple observation of hucksterism.

You mean like Hope and Change?

 

[Doc1]

Trump just keeps getting better day by day.

Next up is sanctuary cities.

And to get an idea how damn screwed up these libtardos are. The San Francisco judge cleared the way for the Steinle's to sue the Federal Government for wrongful death but NOT San Francisco. How damn dumb is that? The sanctuary city that let him go can't be sued but the Federal Government can even when I.C.E. requested they turn him over.

Obama and Holder are flat out idiots. Trump has 150 judges to appoint, enjoy libtardos.

Judge granted the Steinle's the ability to sue the Feds.. This illegal mexican had priors and was still in San Fran...But he was able to obtain a gun stolen out of a Bureau of Land Management officer’s personal vehicle

Kate Steinle case: Court says slain woman’s family can sue feds over stolen gun

I can't wait to see the protests against the wall by the people who's family are at risk by letting these killers in to our country.

California is one giant brain fart.

And the sixth largest economy in the world now. I hope CA secedes and puts stupid fucks like you in your place.

Nothing would make us happier. That would almost guarantee us a Republican President for the rest of our lives.

Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?

That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.

I'm betting you were crying foul about the "Popular Vote".

 

[Edgetho]

You mean like Hope and Change?

Hope's the one on the left

 

[Doc1]

You mean like Hope and Change?

Hope's the one on the left

Just put me in the middle

 

[SmokeALib]

What in the wide world of blue fuck are you even talking about here?

Who is this genius?

 

[Edgetho]

You mean like Hope and Change?

Hope's the one on the left

Just put me in the middle

Yikes!!

 

[Doc1]

My very own Goddess

 

[Edgetho]

There's something wrong with you

 

[Doc1]

There's something wrong with you

As a lifter myself I know precisely what they must do to get that body and it's a HUGE turn on.

 

[Pogo]

Judge granted the Steinle's the ability to sue the Feds.. This illegal mexican had priors and was still in San Fran...But he was able to obtain a gun stolen out of a Bureau of Land Management officer’s personal vehicle

Kate Steinle case: Court says slain woman’s family can sue feds over stolen gun

I can't wait to see the protests against the wall by the people who's family are at risk by letting these killers in to our country.

California is one giant brain fart.

And the sixth largest economy in the world now. I hope CA secedes and puts stupid fucks like you in your place.

Nothing would make us happier. That would almost guarantee us a Republican President for the rest of our lives.

Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?

That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.

I'm betting you were crying foul about the "Popular Vote".

And you lose that bet, but it's got jack shit to do with the post you just quoted anyway.
Not real into the whole "reading" thing I see.

 

[Pogo]

Absolutely.

Let's also remember that the number of undocumented aliens in the US STOPPED GROWING early in the Obama administration.

That's because he changed the definition of deportation. After he got in, being deported means getting caught on the border and told to turn around and go back to Mexico:

High deportation figures are misleading

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/...in-last-five-years.html?ref=juliapreston&_r=1

Nope. It's actually because border security has greatly improved over the last couple of decades, despite the colorful emotional-hook myth of 'fence jumpers'.

>> But even if we were to build a wall, and elect a president interested in using it to protect America’s sovereignty, we’d be missing most of the problem — because the majority of new illegal aliens are actually visa overstayers. This is the most important — albeit buried — finding in a paper published this year by the Center for Migration Studies, an expansionist outfit run by the Scalabrinian Catholic order that nonetheless does serious work. Co-authored by Robert Warren, head of statistics for the old INS, the paper finds that the share of overstays among new illegal aliens has been rising pretty steadily since the 1980s and surpassed border infiltrators in 2008. The paper’s most recent estimate is for 2012, when nearly 60 percent of new illegal immigrants are believed to have entered legally on some sort of visa (or visa-waiver status, if they’re from a developed country) and then just stayed on after their time expired.

An indication of what’s driving this overstay crisis was highlighted by my colleague David North in a recent paper. He found a huge increase in the overall number of “non-immigrant” (i.e., ostensibly temporary) visas issued by the State Department, and an accompanying decline in the percentage of applications being denied. In just five years, from 2009 to 2014, the number of visas issued grew 71 percent, while the percentage of visa denials dropped from 18.6 percent to 15.3 percent. << ---- On Immigration, Fighting the Last War​

But of course the imagery of "building a wall" and of hapless rapists screaming "curses, foiled again" in Spanish will sell as emotional hook much better than "we're going to tighten up our visas and the Treasury is going to pay for it". Because again --- "you don't sell solutions ... you sell feelings".

So because Trump wants to build a wall, that means he's going to ignore all the other things that contribute to our illegal problem?

No. It simply means what I laid out originally --- that he's a huckster who uses emotional hooks like a fake "wall" to sell himself. It actually tells us nothing about what he actually will or won't do, either with a wall or with anything else. Because it's hot air. It's a sales pitch. And if you know anything about Rump sales pitches.... think Rump the Game. Or Rump Shuttle. Or Rump Vodka. Rump Steaks. You get the idea.

It doesn't need to be that complicated -- it's a simple observation of hucksterism.

You mean like Hope and Change?

Yes. An ad slogan. Writ large in Orange.

Oh wait, I mean "writ Yuge".

 

[Pogo]

And what do con artists do?

How'd "getting the Taj Mahal done" work out?

Con artists have to actually do something to con the people. Liberal crystal balls don't count as determining who is and isn't a con artist, actions do.

We were conned into believing that health insurance was going to be affordable to everyone. We were conned into believing that families could save up to $2,500 a year in health insurance premiums.

See? We have evidence of what a con artist actually is.

A con artist is somebody who leeches millions off the gullible with the aforementioned playbook maxim "you don't sell solutions; you sell feelings", then pays out 25 million bucks to settle the inevitable fraud case (after of course denying he'd ever do that) so that it wouldn't be sitting in front of the Electoral College when it came time to vote.

Trump is a fighter. The only reason he GAVE that money away is so he wouldn't have such a distraction to prevent him from doing his new (and such an important) job. His primary focus is now leading this country in the right direction, and he didn't need petty lawsuits to get in his way.

If Hil-Lair had won the election, Trump would have fought these losers all the way to defeat. He simply doesn't have that kind of time now.

On our planet we have what we call "lawyers" to handle that. They take all the time they need, and then invent more.

No, he settled because he knew where it was going.

Lawyers or no lawyers, if you need to testify you have to show up. That would involve the entire security team to shut down the airport, shut down the roads, clear the hallways to the courtroom, the whole ball of wax. Plus of course all the time it would take. I don't know how many millions it costs for a proper presidential escort, but Trump waived all that just to get it out of the way.


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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight That's why he's having no effect at all on Manhattan by hunkering down in Rump Tower.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Con artists have to actually do something to con the people. Liberal crystal balls don't count as determining who is and isn't a con artist, actions do.

We were conned into believing that health insurance was going to be affordable to everyone. We were conned into believing that families could save up to $2,500 a year in health insurance premiums.

See? We have evidence of what a con artist actually is.

A con artist is somebody who leeches millions off the gullible with the aforementioned playbook maxim "you don't sell solutions; you sell feelings", then pays out 25 million bucks to settle the inevitable fraud case (after of course denying he'd ever do that) so that it wouldn't be sitting in front of the Electoral College when it came time to vote.

Trump is a fighter. The only reason he GAVE that money away is so he wouldn't have such a distraction to prevent him from doing his new (and such an important) job. His primary focus is now leading this country in the right direction, and he didn't need petty lawsuits to get in his way.

If Hil-Lair had won the election, Trump would have fought these losers all the way to defeat. He simply doesn't have that kind of time now.

On our planet we have what we call "lawyers" to handle that. They take all the time they need, and then invent more.

No, he settled because he knew where it was going.

Lawyers or no lawyers, if you need to testify you have to show up. That would involve the entire security team to shut down the airport, shut down the roads, clear the hallways to the courtroom, the whole ball of wax. Plus of course all the time it would take. I don't know how many millions it costs for a proper presidential escort, but Trump waived all that just to get it out of the way.


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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight That's why he's having no effect at all on Manhattan by hunkering down in Rump Tower.

So where do you want him to stay until he gets to the White House, a Motel six in Alabama or something?

 

[Doc1]

I can't wait to see the protests against the wall by the people who's family are at risk by letting these killers in to our country.

California is one giant brain fart.

And the sixth largest economy in the world now. I hope CA secedes and puts stupid fucks like you in your place.

Nothing would make us happier. That would almost guarantee us a Republican President for the rest of our lives.

Ah, so you're an Eliminationist yearning for a one-party state?

That oughta work out about as well as the aforementioned Taj Mahal.

I'm betting you were crying foul about the "Popular Vote".

And you lose that bet, but it's got jack shit to do with the post you just quoted anyway.
Not real into the whole "reading" thing I see.

Of course it applies to what you said, you struggle connecting thoughts don't you?
You seem to be quite a pleasant fellow

 

[WillReadmore]

False.

That was a Republican con.

Republicans caused that and then they claimed that someone ELSE caused that.

No, it was a promise from your leader. Every single Republican voted against Commie Care. But because it was such a failure, you and yours are now trying to blame Republicans for it.

No, I clearly informed you that I'm not a fan of the ACA.

And, I did NOT suggest that Republicans voted for it.

I DID say that the ACA was designed in bi-partisan committees in the House and the Senate.

And, that is absolutely true.

 

[WillReadmore]

I support Trump on that, we should have boundaries. If Trump even makes the wall, he isn't going to make a huge wall across the whole southern border,they are already saying that some areas don't need it..
These people will know those exact spots , or tunnel in..

Absolutely.

Let's also remember that the number of undocumented aliens in the US STOPPED GROWING early in the Obama administration.

Before we start spending billions on this "problem" we need to start being serious about what can actually be accomplished by a border wall.

Let's also remember that nearly half of those here without documentation came here LEGALLY. So, NO WALL would stop that.

By overstaying their visas. Way more than half by now. Point well taken, few are wall-jumping in the first place so the $25 billion wall, if it were actually a practical doable thing, would have no effect on that. This is a page out of the Rump University playbook, which literally told its fraudsters, "you don't sell solutions --- you sell feelings". Rump sold the feeling of a wall, the feeling of security therefrom, and the feeling that a foreign country with no reason to do so would pay for it.

When you sell to gullible people on the emotional level, rationality is ---- well, it's kept behind a wall.

It may not get all illegals but at least it shows we finally have a President that's going to make illegals awfully unwelcome. They are going to understand you can't come here, hide in one of these sanctuary cities, and stay for as long as you like.

Once those cities face losing federal funds, they will give up their sanctuary status and that gives illegals less places to hide. If I were Trump, I would also halt all road taxes to states that give illegals drivers licenses.

Blowing tens of billions of our tax dollars on a wall - when it can't solve the problem and wastes money we could be giving back to tax payers or addressing some REAL problem we actually face.

We KNOW what it means to fail to test drivers knowledge of the rules of the road and to demonstrate driving capability. Demanding that we all accept your alternate reality on that is just not acceptable.

But you had no problem with DumBama blowing over a trillion dollars on a healthcare farce that didn't really accomplish anything, and nearly another trillion on the Pork Bill that didn't stimulate the economy.

A few billion for a wall? Defund Planned Parenthood to get some of that money back.

You're just really having a tough time reading.

AGAIN, I have NEVER said I was a fan of he ACA.

And, you have NO IDEA what zeros mean in numbers - rendering your ideas ridiculous.

 

[talksalot]

What in the wide world of blue fuck are you even talking about here?

We're talking about how stupid you are. Thanks for the punchline.

Criminal killers being let out on our streets to kill us under the Identity Politics grievance industry dogma.

Since you gave no indication in your OP somehow expecting Earth to I dunno simply be reading your mind --- it appears you have the Stupid locked up.

I tell ya what, NOBODY ever clicks into a thread I start and can't tell what the fucking topic is. But then, I actually learned to write.

/thread

Since there are 11 "Winner" 5 "Agree" and 3 "Thank you" on the OP it's obvious that a lot of people are clued in to what "Kate's Law" is about.

Establishing Mandatory Minimums for Illegal Reentry Act of 2015 or Kate's Law

This bill amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to increase penalties applicable to aliens who unlawfully reenter the United States after being removed.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

False.

That was a Republican con.

Republicans caused that and then they claimed that someone ELSE caused that.

No, it was a promise from your leader. Every single Republican voted against Commie Care. But because it was such a failure, you and yours are now trying to blame Republicans for it.

No, I clearly informed you that I'm not a fan of the ACA.

And, I did NOT suggest that Republicans voted for it.

I DID say that the ACA was designed in bi-partisan committees in the House and the Senate.

And, that is absolutely true.

No, not true. Republicans tried to water it down as much as possible in the event it actually did pass.
So let's try this again: Every single Republican in Congress voted against Commie Care.

 

[WillReadmore]

False.

That was a Republican con.

Republicans caused that and then they claimed that someone ELSE caused that.

No, it was a promise from your leader. Every single Republican voted against Commie Care. But because it was such a failure, you and yours are now trying to blame Republicans for it.

No, I clearly informed you that I'm not a fan of the ACA.

And, I did NOT suggest that Republicans voted for it.

I DID say that the ACA was designed in bi-partisan committees in the House and the Senate.

And, that is absolutely true.

No, not true. Republicans tried to water it down as much as possible in the event it actually did pass.
So let's try this again: Every single Republican in Congress voted against Commie Care.

It is you who is wrong about this. Republicans on the committees that designed the ACA made numerous constructive contributions.

McCain has pointed out that after the bill had progressed to the point where changes had to be made as amendments, Republicans contributed over 160 amendments that were accepted into the law.

And, given the Democratic super majority in the Senate and the majority in the House, Dems had the numbers to reject ALL those amendments, so suggesting they were an assault on the ACA is ridiculous.

And, I've pointed out that no Republican voted for the bill. That's not in contention here.

If you have a point, you're going to have to do better in explaining it.