Trumps Economic Plan Seriously Considered

[Hafar1014]

Trump has put us in uncharted territory. He is transitioning us from a debt based government spending economy to a wealth based private sector economy.

He is using tariffs as the main instrument. On the good side tariffs are bringing in billions in cash. At current projections in 4 years he will have over 1 trillion to pay down the deficit or the entire deficit. Foreign markets are opening creating wealth for our manufacturers and foreign manufactures are moving to America.

On the risk side inflation could increase costing American jobs and driving up prices. GDP could drop as Americans lose jobs.

As Trump cuts the size of government by eliminating jobs, depts, and spending at the same time he expects the private sector to create new jobs to offset the loss of government jobs. Private sector jobs are created by capital government jobs by debt. So we have balancing act to understand. We can cut the government but there is point when thats too much. We need some control and management of the economy. We can increase the private sector but if they become too powerful we will have monopolies and corporations with too much control.

So where is the sweet spot the balance the Goldilocks point? I dont know. I do believe that today there is too much government controlling of our lives taxing us and regulating us.

So thats the question how much less government and how much more private sector growth is best. Open for discussion

 

[Marener]

Trump has put us in uncharted territory. He is transitioning us from a debt based government spending economy to a wealth based private sector economy.

He has a funny way of showing it since he’s massively increasing federal debt and demanding lower interest rates to bail out his bad policies.

He’s the king of debt. He’s all in on a debt based economy.

 

[candycorn]

Taxes are being raised as unemployment climbs. And you’re saying this was his plan?

 

[cnm]

He seriously meant to increase the deficit and reduce employment.

MAGA !!!

 

[cnm]

Taxes are being raised as unemployment climbs. And you’re saying this was his plan?

I'm not sure what dimension of chess we'll be told Chump is playing.

5th Dementia, perhaps?

 

[cnm]

Taxes are being raised as unemployment climbs. And you’re saying this was his plan?

It's a master stroke. No one will have seen it coming...

 

[cnm]

Trump has put us in uncharted territory.

No. You have the charts. Look up creating and increasing depressions/recessions.

 

[BluesLegend]

He has a funny way of showing it since he’s massively increasing federal debt and demanding lower interest rates to bail out his bad policies.

He’s the king of debt. He’s all in on a debt based economy.

Your new screen name is Status Quo Joe.

 

[berg80]

Trump has put us in uncharted territory. He is transitioning us from a debt based government spending economy to a wealth based private sector economy.

He is using tariffs as the main instrument. On the good side tariffs are bringing in billions in cash. At current projections in 4 years he will have over 1 trillion to pay down the deficit or the entire deficit. Foreign markets are opening creating wealth for our manufacturers and foreign manufactures are moving to America.

On the risk side inflation could increase costing American jobs and driving up prices. GDP could drop as Americans lose jobs.

As Trump cuts the size of government by eliminating jobs, depts, and spending at the same time he expects the private sector to create new jobs to offset the loss of government jobs. Private sector jobs are created by capital government jobs by debt. So we have balancing act to understand. We can cut the government but there is point when thats too much. We need some control and management of the economy. We can increase the private sector but if they become too powerful we will have monopolies and corporations with too much control.

So where is the sweet spot the balance the Goldilocks point? I dont know. I do believe that today there is too much government controlling of our lives taxing us and regulating us.

So thats the question how much less government and how much more private sector growth is best. Open for discussion

Does his plan include the 11K manufacturing jobs lost last month?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Trump has put us in uncharted territory. He is transitioning us from a debt based government spending economy to a wealth based private sector economy.

He is using tariffs as the main instrument. On the good side tariffs are bringing in billions in cash. At current projections in 4 years he will have over 1 trillion to pay down the deficit or the entire deficit. Foreign markets are opening creating wealth for our manufacturers and foreign manufactures are moving to America.

On the risk side inflation could increase costing American jobs and driving up prices. GDP could drop as Americans lose jobs.

As Trump cuts the size of government by eliminating jobs, depts, and spending at the same time he expects the private sector to create new jobs to offset the loss of government jobs. Private sector jobs are created by capital government jobs by debt. So we have balancing act to understand. We can cut the government but there is point when thats too much. We need some control and management of the economy. We can increase the private sector but if they become too powerful we will have monopolies and corporations with too much control.

So where is the sweet spot the balance the Goldilocks point? I dont know. I do believe that today there is too much government controlling of our lives taxing us and regulating us.

So thats the question how much less government and how much more private sector growth is best. Open for discussion

Trump has a "plan"??? Deranged, mentally ill people don't have "plans".

They just do stuff. Usually stupid stuff that makes no sense....like these fucked-up tariffs.

You are giving Trump too much credit.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Trump has put us in uncharted territory. He is transitioning us from a debt based government spending economy to a wealth based private sector economy.

He is using tariffs as the main instrument. On the good side tariffs are bringing in billions in cash. At current projections in 4 years he will have over 1 trillion to pay down the deficit or the entire deficit. Foreign markets are opening creating wealth for our manufacturers and foreign manufactures are moving to America.

On the risk side inflation could increase costing American jobs and driving up prices. GDP could drop as Americans lose jobs.

As Trump cuts the size of government by eliminating jobs, depts, and spending at the same time he expects the private sector to create new jobs to offset the loss of government jobs. Private sector jobs are created by capital government jobs by debt. So we have balancing act to understand. We can cut the government but there is point when thats too much. We need some control and management of the economy. We can increase the private sector but if they become too powerful we will have monopolies and corporations with too much control.

So where is the sweet spot the balance the Goldilocks point? I dont know. I do believe that today there is too much government controlling of our lives taxing us and regulating us.

So thats the question how much less government and how much more private sector growth is best. Open for discussion

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

DOGE Guts the Regulatory State

The DOGE super bots are coming for the Federal regulations.

www.profstonge.com

Enter the DOGE bots​

So what DOGE did is build an AI tool that analyzed over 200,000 federal regulations to determine which ones are not in fact legal. As in the law either expired or they never were legal.

They found that roughly half were illegal -- 100,000 rules. Which they estimate cost us $3.3 trillion per year (!)

That’s more than the income tax. In fact, it's almost the GDP of Japan.

 

[Mac1958]

The money Trump is raising via tariffs is coming from American employers. American companies. And that also means American companies that exist along supply chains. Supply chains are seeing increased costs, therefore, at every ******* level (How U.S. Tariffs Are Upending Supply Chains).

Trump is demanding the Fed slash interest rates at a moment in which inflation is beginning to increase again (from 2.4% to 2.6%), and we're still two or three months away from knowing the effect of these tariffs, see above. It would be irresponsible to do that now.

Trump's Big Bloated Bill, rather than cutting spending as promised, is adding several trillions to our debt. Trump's lapdog Treasury Secretary Bessent is responding to criticism by stumbling through an excuse that "we plan to grow our way out of this", which is essentially impossible given the inflation knife's edge on which we are walking and our increasing debt service costs.

This notion of deregulating everything they can deregulate completely ignores the fact that Alan Greenspan's absolute refusal to regulate the derivatives that damn near killed us and played a huge role in the 2008 Meltdown. He would later admit that to Congress. Oops, I guess I goofed a little there. Clinton got the ball rolling on those derivatives when he stupidly repealed Glass-Steagall years earlier.

We're going down a dangerous, myopic, ideologically-based road here. Can it work? Yes, given the incredibly dynamic, resilient and flexible nature of our economy. But a lot of people will be left behind at a time when wealth disparity just keeps getting worse, and it doesn't have to be that way.

 

[Hafar1014]

Trump has a "plan"??? Deranged, mentally ill people don't have "plans".

They just do stuff. Usually stupid stuff that makes no sense....like these fucked-up tariffs.

You are giving Trump too much credit.

Very much like your response

 

[Hafar1014]

Does his plan include the 11K manufacturing jobs lost last month?

You have to look froward not backward. We are still in the hole Biden out us in

 

[candycorn]

I'm not sure what dimension of chess we'll be told Chump is playing.

5th Dementia, perhaps?

Nice

 

[candycorn]

You have to look froward not backward. We ar still in the hole Biden out us in

You are a clown

 

[ColonelAngus]

The tariffs are a negotiation tactic that has proven effective in quite a few of these trade deals.

The point is to get more shit made here and less overseas.

Lefties are too obtuse to get it. They just know ORANGE MAN PEDO DERP DERP DERP DERP

 

[berg80]

Trump has put us in uncharted territory. He is transitioning us from a debt based government spending economy to a wealth based private sector economy.

Complete horseshit.

Health care remained a resilient sector for jobs in July even as the broader labor market showed further signs of slowing, data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics released Friday shows.

Health care and social assistance saw 73,300 jobs added last month, far and away the most growth of any group in the period. When including private education with the health-care group, as some economists do, that growth would have increased to 79,000 for the month.

Nonfarm payrolls in July grew by 73,000, meaning that health care accounted for virtually all of those gains when factoring in the job declines from other spaces. Put differently, last month’s jobs report would’ve been negative overall if the health-care group were to be excluded.

“When you have health care and social assistance essentially doing the lifting on private payrolls growth [and] federal government and government both shedding jobs here where the local government had sort of previously helped on the June participation, you have to say that … there’s a substantial part of it that is essentially frozen,” Mark Hamrick, senior economic analyst at Bankrate, told CNBC. “It’s almost a no-hire, no-fire job market.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/01/heres-where-the-jobs-are-in-this-slowing-economy.html

trump has created a deficit spending fueled economy with the worst job growth since the end of the pandemic that just lost 11K manufacturing jobs because of his monumentally idiotic tariff policy.

 

[Hafar1014]

Complete horseshit.

Health care remained a resilient sector for jobs in July even as the broader labor market showed further signs of slowing, data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics released Friday shows.

Health care and social assistance saw 73,300 jobs added last month, far and away the most growth of any group in the period. When including private education with the health-care group, as some economists do, that growth would have increased to 79,000 for the month.

Nonfarm payrolls in July grew by 73,000, meaning that health care accounted for virtually all of those gains when factoring in the job declines from other spaces. Put differently, last month’s jobs report would’ve been negative overall if the health-care group were to be excluded.

“When you have health care and social assistance essentially doing the lifting on private payrolls growth [and] federal government and government both shedding jobs here where the local government had sort of previously helped on the June participation, you have to say that … there’s a substantial part of it that is essentially frozen,” Mark Hamrick, senior economic analyst at Bankrate, told CNBC. “It’s almost a no-hire, no-fire job market.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/01/heres-where-the-jobs-are-in-this-slowing-economy.html

trump has created a deficit spending fueled economy with the worst job growth since the end of the pandemic that just lost 11K manufacturing jobs because of his monumentally idiotic tariff policy.

This is still the Biden economy and Biden put us in a deep hole. Its going to take more than 6 months to fix it. Lets see where we are by years end.