Trump's Deutsche Bank loan leak foreshadows coming investigations

[caddo kid]

for basically three decades Donald Trump has not been able to access financing from legitimate US concerns.

During this time frame Trump has received financing from Russian, Saudi, and European entities.

It is actually my opinion that Trump operates on nothing more than debt & owns nothing out right.

The idea that a multi billionaire would seek financing for a few million only lends credibility to my idea that Trump owns nothing, except debt.

Trump is scamming the masses of rubes but hey, if they are stupid enuff to believe a fairy tale, fvck 'em.

 

[leecross]

You are an enemy of America and you believe the US should allow bad regimes to prevail throughout the world.

Like in the Philippines, North Korea,Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria??

Ya know...all of Trump's buddies?

What harm has any of them done to the USA since DJT has been in command?

Hey dumbass...did you forget your own stupid post?

You are an enemy of America and you believe the US should allow bad regimes to prevail throughout the world.

YOU posted that stupid. Did it look different in cyrillic?

Metaphorically and intellectually, you are not tall enough to ride this ride.

 

[leecross]

for basically three decades Donald Trump has not been able to access financing from legitimate US concerns.

During this time frame Trump has received financing from Russian, Saudi, and European entities.

It is actually my opinion that Trump operates on nothing more than debt & owns nothing out right.

Trump is scamming the masses of rubes but hey, if they are stupid enuff to believe a fairy tale, fvck 'em.

www.MAGAPILL.com

From President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishment's List

US Embassy moved to Jerusalem by President Donald J Trump
Top 5 ISIS Leaders Captured
Black and Hispanic Unemployment rates hit record low in April
Trump secures release of American Prisoners from North Korea
Trump Negotiates Peace between North and South Korea
Trump Signs Order Calling for Work Requirements for Welfare Programs
HISTORIC: Trump Nominates First Woman for Head of CIA
Feds collect record taxes in first month under Trump’s tax cuts; runs surplus in January
Trump signs sweeping two-year budget deal - MILITARY FUNDED
Trump proposes biggest civil service change in 40 years - 'Hire the best and fire the worst'
Trump signs bipartisan bill to combat synthetic opioids
Trump Shrinks Federal Bureaucracy by 16000
President Trump set a record for lifetime appointed judges in 2017
Trump Signed 96 Laws In 2017
Trump Administration Set to Roll Back $900 Million in Obama-Era Offshore Drilling Regulations
U.S. Imposes Sanctions on 52 People and Entities for Abuse and Corruption
Individual Mandate of Obamacare REPEALED
Senate Passes Historic Sweeping Tax Reform
Climate Change REMOVED from 'Threat List'
Trump Admin is a Deregulation Machine: Eliminating 22:1
Trump signs $700 billion defense bill, gives troops largest pay raise in 7 years
New Space Policy Directive Calls for Human Expansion Across Solar System
Trump Declares Jerusalem the Capital of Israel
Senate Passes Sweeping Tax Reform - 20% Corporate rate - Largest in 31 Years.
Trump Shuts Down CIA funding of Syrian Rebels
House Passes Tax Bill in Major Step Toward Overhaul
Senate Passes Budget Resolution Clearing the Way to pass Tax Reform with a Simple Majority
Trump's HHS defines life as beginning at conception
President Trump Declassifies and Releases JFK Files
Iran Deal: DECERTIFIED
Trump: 'We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values'
Trump administration abandons the Obama-era clean power plan aimed at reducing global warming
School Choice tops the list of Priorities U.S. Education Department Grants
Trump Signs Healthcare Order, Expands Choice and Access through associations
US and Israel withdraw from UNESCO citing "anti-Israel bias"
Trump has written 46 Executive Orders
Treasury Deparment to target companies doing business with North Korea
Trump has signed 53 bills into law
Trump Signs Order Rolling Back Environmental Rules on Infrastructure
11,000 government jobs slashed under Trump - downsizing government
UN Security Council unanimously imposed new sanctions on North Korea
Senate confirms 65 Trump nominees for various positions
U.S. Small Business Administration opens assistance center
800 Obama regulations cut - Saved over $200 billion
EPA's Pruitt moves to roll back over 30 environmental regulations in record time
Cut the White House budget - Saved taxpayers $22 million
Haley Tells Congress US Assuming More Assertive Role at UN
Trump’s EPA To Repeal Obama’s ‘Waters Of The US’ Rule
Eliminated 1200 man hours of wasteful paperwork requirements including Y2K preparedness
President Trump Announces “Massive Permit Reform" Push
Trump Lays Out Plan to Privatize Air Traffic Control System
Statement by President Trump on the Paris Climate Accord
Treasury to call for rolling back banking regulations
Trump orders a Voter Fraud Commission to investigate 2016 election
Fired corrupt and incompetent FBI Director James Comey
HHS to Rescind Birth Control Mandate in Obamacare
Appointed conservative Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court
Ben Carson Finds $500 Billion In Errors during Audit of Obama HUD
President Trump's executive order will undo Obama's Clean Power Plan rule
U.S. Will have Free but Fair and Balanced Trade: Mnuchin
Executive order to reduce operating costs of the Federal Government
Fired all 46 attorney generals hired by Obama
Purging the State Department of Obama loyalists
Fixing lobbying laws - 5 year lobbying ban on White House officials
Put a regulatory freeze on all federal agencies
Cutting regulations in government agencies (add 1, take out 2)
45th PRESIDENT of the United States of America, DONALD J. TRUMP
Department of Justice
Trump DOJ Sues California For Interference With Immigration Enforcement
DOJ Halts Obama's Operation Chokepoint, Which Targeted Firearm Dealers
More than 1,000 arrests in sex trafficking operation
Four charged with leaks from Trump administration
Jeff Sessions announces new crackdown on 'so-called' sanctuary cities
Justice Department announces takedown of AlphaBay, the largest dark web market
Sessions's New Civil-Forfeiture Rules
400 medical professionals charged in largest health care fraud takedown
The Department of Justice Stands by Texas's Voter ID Law
Charges: Sex traffickers took hundreds from Thailand to US
AG Sessions is bringing back the harsher sentences for drug dealers
Sex Trafficking Arrests Soar Under Trump; MSM Completely Ignores
DHS is planning on denying green cards to legal immigrants if they receive federal or state aid
Trump takes 'shackles' off ICE, which is slapping them on immigrants who thought they were safe
ICE raid hits 77 businesses in Northern California
End of Year Report: Deportations up 40% - Historically Low Crossings
DHS: Announces New Procedures for Refugee Admissions
Deportations Of Noncriminals Rise As ICE Casts Wider Net
Cutting regulations in government agencies (add 1, take out 2)
Veterans Administration
Enhancing Veteran Care Act
VA seeks partnerships to build and improve health-care facilities
VA announces Veterans Coordinated Access & Rewarding Experiences Act
VA, Ginnie Mae create task force to address mortgage refinancing issues
Telemedicine: An important tool for Veterans health
Trump Signs Bill to Streamline VA Disability Claims Appeals Process
Trump signs ‘Forever GI Bill,’ boosting aid to student vets
VA expands Tele-Health access
VA fires more than 500 feds under Trump, even before new accountability law
Trump signs VA accountability act into law, promises better care for veterans
Trump Administration Streamlines Veteran Medical Records
White House to launch veterans' complaint hotline
Accountability and Whistleblower Protection at VA
Economy
Black and Hispanic Unemployment rates hit record low in April
Business Investments up 39 Percent Due to Tax Cuts
April 2018 Best Month in HISTORY for Budget according to CBO
Food Stamp Usage Drops Half Million in Single Month
Highest Ever Manufacturer Optimism over 94 Percent
Unemployment claims have fallen to a 45-year low
Trump Economy Explodes Record Number of Americans Employed Stocks Soar
FEB JOBS BLOWOUT 313K
GREAT AGAIN Household Net Worth Pushes Further Into Record Territory
U.S. Consumer Confidence Is at 17-Year High
US homebuilding permits soar to highest level since 2007
Economy to grow at 5.4% rate in first quarter
Roaring: Economic Optimism Index hits 13-year high, credit to tax cuts
U.S. jobless claims drop to near 45-year low
Wages jump to highest level since 2009 - up 2.9%
U.S. Oil Production Tops 10 Million Barrels A Day, First Time Since 1970
Trump Decreases Debt to GDP Ratio - First Time in Over 50 Years!
Jobless claims drop to lowest level in nearly 45 years
Apple to Invest $350 BILLION in US citing Trump Tax Plan
Utilities cutting rates, cite benefits of Trump tax reform
Over 100 companies giving 'Trump Bonuses' after tax victory
Black unemployment rate falls to record low
Trump adds 184,000 manufacturing jobs and continues growth trend
Manufacturing in the U.S. Just Accelerated to Its Best Year Since 2004
Nikki Haley negotiates $285M cut in ‘bloated’ UN budget
WIC Welfare Participation Hits 17-Year Low
U.S. home sales hit 11-year high
Manufacturing Optimism Reaches Another All-Time High - 94.6%
Economy adds 228K jobs in November
Mining up 28.6% - Leads the Nation in Growth
Broadcom will move back to U.S. — and bring tax money with it
US private sector added 235,000 jobs in Oct - Beats Expectations
Consumer confidence highest level since December 2000
Q3 GDP at 3 Percent – Beats Expectations
Ivanka Trump creates new World Bank initiative to foster Entrepreneurship among Women
Consumer Sentiment in U.S. Surges to 13-Year High
63.1%: Participation Rate Reaches Trump-Era High
Unemployment down to 4.2, wages rise .5%
New entrants from outside the labor market made up 3.2
U.S. Factories Expanding at 13 Year high
Dow posting first eight-quarter winning streak in 20 years
Home builder confidence at 12-year high
Manufacturer confidence at a 20-year high
Tech giants pledge millions to Trump initiative
Q2 GDP up 3.1%
Sales of new U.S. homes rebounded in August
Federal Reserve: Household Wealth in America at record high of $1.7 trillion - Rising property values and Financial gain
Surging stock market powers U.S. wealth to $96.2 trillion
Food Stamp Usage Has Fallen Every Month Under Trump
Median Incomes Climbing for First Time Since 2007
Trump has signed a $15 billion relief package for Texas in the wake of Hurricane Harvey
Jobless claims drop to 240,000 - hottest streak in 43 years
U.S. Consumer Sentiment Rose in August
Recovery Is Finally Trickling Down to Least-Educated Workers
U.S. Job Satisfaction Highest Level Since 2005
American manufacturing expanded in August at fastest pace in six years
Donald Trump Ends Obama Effort to Waive Work Requirements for Welfare
Consumer confidence strengthens in August, second-highest level since late 2000
President Trump Cuts More US Debt for a Longer Period of Time Than Any President
Pennsylvania coal company to open a SECOND coal mine
Summer Youth Unemployment Falls, Level Since 1969
In Trump era, American corporations are seeing their best earnings in 13 years
US trade deficit narrows as exports hit 2-1/2-year high
Milestone for Trump: 1 million new jobs in six months
National unemployment rate at 4.3% (lowest it's been in 16 years)
13,000 jobs being created in WI - largest job announcement in WI history (Foxconn)
Black Unemployment, Lowest Level in 17 Years
Gas prices at a 12-year low
Some states are experiencing their lowest unemployment rates in their histories
Trump Announces $200 Million in Apprenticeship Funding
U.S. has record 6 million job openings, 6.8 million Americans are looking for jobs
CEO confidence highest since 2014
U.S. jobless rate falls to lowest level in 16 years
Trump signs bills that helps Veterans and Police officers by giving them Priority and Training
Government spending as percentage of GDP down
1000s of jobs being created through pact with Saudi Arabia
Executive Order on the Establishment of the American Technology Council
USA's small business confidence is spurring a hiring and spending spree
Alibaba Takes First Step To Fulfilling Jack Ma And President Trump's 'One Million U.S. Jobs' Promise
Slashing job-killing regulations left and right
Creating thousands of more jobs for immigration officers and border patrol
Signed a resolution encouraging women in entrepreneurship and STEM
Executive ordered all federal agencies to create task forces to cut regulations that hurt the economy
US Manufacturing Index at a 33-year high
Coal Miners are WINNING. Cut Regulations/Create Jobs/New Plant
US Economic Confidence Surges To Highest Level Ever Recorded By Gallup
State Department
Four Months into FY 2018, Refugee Admissions Plunge to Lowest Level in 15 Years
US increases vetting and resumes processing of refugees from 'high-risk' countries
US Delays Payment to UN for Palestinians
US Suspends $2 BILLION in security assistance to Pakistan
Global Magnitsky Act Signed: Targeting Global Corruption and Human Rights Abuse
North Korea Designated as 'State Sponor of Terrorism'
United States Announces a New Strategy on Iran
Trump Administration Announces 'Extreme Vetting' Plans
Trump cuts Obama’s refugee target in half, takes more Christians than Muslims
New Order Indefinitely Bars Almost All Travel From Seven Countries
UN Security Council unanimously steps up sanctions against North Korea
Fewest Monthly Refugee Arrivals in August Since 2002
Trump to stop travel from countries that refuse to help Homeland Security
America has withdrawn almost $300 million in foreign aid to Egypt
Tillerson to shutter war crimes focused State Dept. office: report
Rex Tillerson, Mediating Gulf Dispute, Signs Antiterrorism Pact With Qatar
Canceled Obama Era special immigration program for foreign entrepreneurs
Critical milestone in the global fight against ISIS
Tillerson to back up Trump efforts to bolster Eastern Europe against Russia
Tillerson Tightens Limits on Filling State Department Jobs
Report: Trump plans to cut foreign aid, merge State and USAID
US to make at least $285m cut to UN budget
Tillerson on North Korea: Military action is 'an option'
It's a bloodbath at the State Department
Homeland Security
DHS is planning on denying green cards to legal immigrants if they receive federal or state aid
Trump takes 'shackles' off ICE, which is slapping them on immigrants who thought they were safe
ICE raid hits 77 businesses in Northern California
End of Year Report: Deportations up 40% - Historically Low Crossings
DHS: Announces New Procedures for Refugee Admissions
Deportations Of Noncriminals Rise As ICE Casts Wider Net
DACA Renewals Drop 21%
30-foot concrete slab prototypes erected along border
ICE has conducted a MASSIVE raid on sanctuary cities this week - 498 illegal immigrants arrested
Trump has updated his travel ban, includes these 8 countries - Chad, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, Somalia - NO EXPIRATION DATE
Crossing The Border Illegally Is Harder Than It’s Been In 50 Years
Withholding Federal Funds from Sanctuary Cities - Must allow ICE access to jails and notify befor release
$1.6 billion down payment to start building the wall
Trump cuts off visas for countries that refuse deported immigrants
Rescinded DACA
Extreme Vetting' for some green cards
Deportation orders up 31% nationwide under Trump
Deportation Orders Up 30%
Miami has removed its "sanctuary" status
ICE raids targeting families net 650 arrests
Denver To ICE: Stop Arresting Illegal Immigrants At Courthouse. ICE To Denver: Not A Chance.
17 Texas sheriffs approved to partner w/ICE
ICE chief wants smuggling charges on leaders of sanctuary cities
New crackdown on 'so-called' sanctuary cities
Raids to target teenaged suspected gang members
Army Corps starts pre-construction work on border wall
Deportations in LA are up 60% alone
80% jump in illegal targets
Feds taking over Texas National Guard mission along border
Border Patrol Morale at Highest Level
Christian refugees admitted now outnumber Muslim refugees admitted
Bill allocates $1.6 billion for Trump's border wall
ICE crackdown scaring some families back to Mexico
No Sanctuary For Criminals Act - deny federal grants to sanctuary cities - Passed House and Senate
Kate's Law - harsher penalties for previously deported criminals - Passed House and Senate
Number of refugees taken in is down 50%
Rescinded DAPA
Workers install final panel in upgrade of border fence
Raids turn Oregon city into ghost town
Ending "catch and release" immigration policy
Silicon Valley Staffing Firm Charged in H1B Fraud
Unshackling ICE - told that they can take action against ALL illegal immigrants - increasing presence in sanctuary cities
Department of Defense
Top 5 ISIS Leaders Captured
Trump signs order to keep Guantanamo Bay prison open
US kills 150 ISIS terrorists in Syria airstrike during government shutdown
ISIS has lost 98 percent of its territory - due to Trump admin
Pentagon Announces First-Ever Audit of the Department of Defense
U.S.-Backed Forces Capture Raqqa from ISIS
ISIS facing imminent collapse in Syria's Raqqa
Gen. Mattis breaks down New Afghanistan Strategy
US-backed fighters 'seize 80% of Raqqa from Islamic State'
Mattis sees need for new DOD space programs
Trump calls for Increased Military: Senate passes $700 billion defense bill
US shares technology with India. Enlisting them to fight in Afghanistan
Mattis vows US support for Ukraine against Russian 'aggression'
U.S. Cyber Command will be elevated to a "Unified Combatant Command"
Mattis decides to withhold U.S. cash from key Pakistani military fund
Mosul liberated from ISIS
Mattis: 'Annihilation Tactics' Being Used Against ISIS
US, Gulf countries form new group: 'TFTC' to stem flow of terror financing
NATO weighs new 'Counter Terrorism Post' following Trump's demands
ISIS leader 'admits DEFEAT in Iraq and orders militants to flee
Mattis Gives White House Tentative Plan for Rapid Defeat of ISIS
James Mattis threatens to ‘moderate’ US backing for Nato over budgets
Trade Deals
Trump Blocks Chinese Purchase of Qualcomm due to National Security
TRUMP SIGNS TARIFF ORDER ON STEEL AND ALUMINUM
Trump Slaps 30% Tariffs on Solar Panels imported from China
Japan Freezes North Korea’s Assets after Trump’s Visit
U.S. Trade Deficit falls to 11-month low
Trump Fights for ‘America First’ as 4th Round of NAFTA Negotiations End
Crude Oil Shipment to India Highlights Expanding Energy Partnership
Trump Blocks China from buying Semi-Conductor company, Lattice
Crude oil shipment from Texas opens new vistas in India-U.S. ties
Argentina agrees to allow first U.S. pork imports in 25 years
Trump orders probe of China's intellectual property practices
New memorandum to protect American IPs from China - Potentially save Billions of dollars and millions in jobs
Coal exports up 60%
China opens rice market for US exports for first time ever
U.S. makes final finding rebar exports from Taiwan
Renegotiating NAFTA with Canada and Mexico in order to make better trade deals - May terminate
United States and Mexico finalize sugar trade deal
First U.S. Natural Gas Shipped to Poland
Signed an Arms Deal worth more than $350 billion and various other investment agreements with Saudi Arabia
China, U.S. reach trade agreement on beef, poultry and natural gas
Trump orders a study on abuses of U.S. trade agreements – WTO
Trump slaps tariffs on Canadian lumber imports
Increased tariffs on Canadian lumber by 20% (worth $1 billion)
China buys more U.S. coal, sends North Korea
Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) TERMINATED
Letter to Patriots
Importance of archiving President Trump's accomplishments
Trump supporters are proud of the job President Trump has done so far.
Donald J. Trump has achieved more in 1 year than the Obama administration did in 8 despite the lack of help he’s received from the Republican Party and the obstructionists in Congress.

 

[caddo kid]

for basically three decades Donald Trump has not been able to access financing from legitimate US concerns.

During this time frame Trump has received financing from Russian, Saudi, and European entities.

It is actually my opinion that Trump operates on nothing more than debt & owns nothing out right.

Trump is scamming the masses of rubes but hey, if they are stupid enuff to believe a fairy tale, fvck 'em.

www.MAGAPILL.com

From President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishment's List

US Embassy moved to Jerusalem by President Donald J Trump
Top 5 ISIS Leaders Captured
Black and Hispanic Unemployment rates hit record low in April
Trump secures release of American Prisoners from North Korea
Trump Negotiates Peace between North and South Korea
Trump Signs Order Calling for Work Requirements for Welfare Programs
HISTORIC: Trump Nominates First Woman for Head of CIA
Feds collect record taxes in first month under Trump’s tax cuts; runs surplus in January
Trump signs sweeping two-year budget deal - MILITARY FUNDED
Trump proposes biggest civil service change in 40 years - 'Hire the best and fire the worst'
Trump signs bipartisan bill to combat synthetic opioids
Trump Shrinks Federal Bureaucracy by 16000
President Trump set a record for lifetime appointed judges in 2017
Trump Signed 96 Laws In 2017
Trump Administration Set to Roll Back $900 Million in Obama-Era Offshore Drilling Regulations
U.S. Imposes Sanctions on 52 People and Entities for Abuse and Corruption
Individual Mandate of Obamacare REPEALED
Senate Passes Historic Sweeping Tax Reform
Climate Change REMOVED from 'Threat List'
Trump Admin is a Deregulation Machine: Eliminating 22:1
Trump signs $700 billion defense bill, gives troops largest pay raise in 7 years
New Space Policy Directive Calls for Human Expansion Across Solar System
Trump Declares Jerusalem the Capital of Israel
Senate Passes Sweeping Tax Reform - 20% Corporate rate - Largest in 31 Years.
Trump Shuts Down CIA funding of Syrian Rebels
House Passes Tax Bill in Major Step Toward Overhaul
Senate Passes Budget Resolution Clearing the Way to pass Tax Reform with a Simple Majority
Trump's HHS defines life as beginning at conception
President Trump Declassifies and Releases JFK Files
Iran Deal: DECERTIFIED
Trump: 'We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values'
Trump administration abandons the Obama-era clean power plan aimed at reducing global warming
School Choice tops the list of Priorities U.S. Education Department Grants
Trump Signs Healthcare Order, Expands Choice and Access through associations
US and Israel withdraw from UNESCO citing "anti-Israel bias"
Trump has written 46 Executive Orders
Treasury Deparment to target companies doing business with North Korea
Trump has signed 53 bills into law
Trump Signs Order Rolling Back Environmental Rules on Infrastructure
11,000 government jobs slashed under Trump - downsizing government
UN Security Council unanimously imposed new sanctions on North Korea
Senate confirms 65 Trump nominees for various positions
U.S. Small Business Administration opens assistance center
800 Obama regulations cut - Saved over $200 billion
EPA's Pruitt moves to roll back over 30 environmental regulations in record time
Cut the White House budget - Saved taxpayers $22 million
Haley Tells Congress US Assuming More Assertive Role at UN
Trump’s EPA To Repeal Obama’s ‘Waters Of The US’ Rule
Eliminated 1200 man hours of wasteful paperwork requirements including Y2K preparedness
President Trump Announces “Massive Permit Reform" Push
Trump Lays Out Plan to Privatize Air Traffic Control System
Statement by President Trump on the Paris Climate Accord
Treasury to call for rolling back banking regulations
Trump orders a Voter Fraud Commission to investigate 2016 election
Fired corrupt and incompetent FBI Director James Comey
HHS to Rescind Birth Control Mandate in Obamacare
Appointed conservative Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court
Ben Carson Finds $500 Billion In Errors during Audit of Obama HUD
President Trump's executive order will undo Obama's Clean Power Plan rule
U.S. Will have Free but Fair and Balanced Trade: Mnuchin
Executive order to reduce operating costs of the Federal Government
Fired all 46 attorney generals hired by Obama
Purging the State Department of Obama loyalists
Fixing lobbying laws - 5 year lobbying ban on White House officials
Put a regulatory freeze on all federal agencies
Cutting regulations in government agencies (add 1, take out 2)
45th PRESIDENT of the United States of America, DONALD J. TRUMP
Department of Justice
Trump DOJ Sues California For Interference With Immigration Enforcement
DOJ Halts Obama's Operation Chokepoint, Which Targeted Firearm Dealers
More than 1,000 arrests in sex trafficking operation
Four charged with leaks from Trump administration
Jeff Sessions announces new crackdown on 'so-called' sanctuary cities
Justice Department announces takedown of AlphaBay, the largest dark web market
Sessions's New Civil-Forfeiture Rules
400 medical professionals charged in largest health care fraud takedown
The Department of Justice Stands by Texas's Voter ID Law
Charges: Sex traffickers took hundreds from Thailand to US
AG Sessions is bringing back the harsher sentences for drug dealers
Sex Trafficking Arrests Soar Under Trump; MSM Completely Ignores
DHS is planning on denying green cards to legal immigrants if they receive federal or state aid
Trump takes 'shackles' off ICE, which is slapping them on immigrants who thought they were safe
ICE raid hits 77 businesses in Northern California
End of Year Report: Deportations up 40% - Historically Low Crossings
DHS: Announces New Procedures for Refugee Admissions
Deportations Of Noncriminals Rise As ICE Casts Wider Net
Cutting regulations in government agencies (add 1, take out 2)
Veterans Administration
Enhancing Veteran Care Act
VA seeks partnerships to build and improve health-care facilities
VA announces Veterans Coordinated Access & Rewarding Experiences Act
VA, Ginnie Mae create task force to address mortgage refinancing issues
Telemedicine: An important tool for Veterans health
Trump Signs Bill to Streamline VA Disability Claims Appeals Process
Trump signs ‘Forever GI Bill,’ boosting aid to student vets
VA expands Tele-Health access
VA fires more than 500 feds under Trump, even before new accountability law
Trump signs VA accountability act into law, promises better care for veterans
Trump Administration Streamlines Veteran Medical Records
White House to launch veterans' complaint hotline
Accountability and Whistleblower Protection at VA
Economy
Black and Hispanic Unemployment rates hit record low in April
Business Investments up 39 Percent Due to Tax Cuts
April 2018 Best Month in HISTORY for Budget according to CBO
Food Stamp Usage Drops Half Million in Single Month
Highest Ever Manufacturer Optimism over 94 Percent
Unemployment claims have fallen to a 45-year low
Trump Economy Explodes Record Number of Americans Employed Stocks Soar
FEB JOBS BLOWOUT 313K
GREAT AGAIN Household Net Worth Pushes Further Into Record Territory
U.S. Consumer Confidence Is at 17-Year High
US homebuilding permits soar to highest level since 2007
Economy to grow at 5.4% rate in first quarter
Roaring: Economic Optimism Index hits 13-year high, credit to tax cuts
U.S. jobless claims drop to near 45-year low
Wages jump to highest level since 2009 - up 2.9%
U.S. Oil Production Tops 10 Million Barrels A Day, First Time Since 1970
Trump Decreases Debt to GDP Ratio - First Time in Over 50 Years!
Jobless claims drop to lowest level in nearly 45 years
Apple to Invest $350 BILLION in US citing Trump Tax Plan
Utilities cutting rates, cite benefits of Trump tax reform
Over 100 companies giving 'Trump Bonuses' after tax victory
Black unemployment rate falls to record low
Trump adds 184,000 manufacturing jobs and continues growth trend
Manufacturing in the U.S. Just Accelerated to Its Best Year Since 2004
Nikki Haley negotiates $285M cut in ‘bloated’ UN budget
WIC Welfare Participation Hits 17-Year Low
U.S. home sales hit 11-year high
Manufacturing Optimism Reaches Another All-Time High - 94.6%
Economy adds 228K jobs in November
Mining up 28.6% - Leads the Nation in Growth
Broadcom will move back to U.S. — and bring tax money with it
US private sector added 235,000 jobs in Oct - Beats Expectations
Consumer confidence highest level since December 2000
Q3 GDP at 3 Percent – Beats Expectations
Ivanka Trump creates new World Bank initiative to foster Entrepreneurship among Women
Consumer Sentiment in U.S. Surges to 13-Year High
63.1%: Participation Rate Reaches Trump-Era High
Unemployment down to 4.2, wages rise .5%
New entrants from outside the labor market made up 3.2
U.S. Factories Expanding at 13 Year high
Dow posting first eight-quarter winning streak in 20 years
Home builder confidence at 12-year high
Manufacturer confidence at a 20-year high
Tech giants pledge millions to Trump initiative
Q2 GDP up 3.1%
Sales of new U.S. homes rebounded in August
Federal Reserve: Household Wealth in America at record high of $1.7 trillion - Rising property values and Financial gain
Surging stock market powers U.S. wealth to $96.2 trillion
Food Stamp Usage Has Fallen Every Month Under Trump
Median Incomes Climbing for First Time Since 2007
Trump has signed a $15 billion relief package for Texas in the wake of Hurricane Harvey
Jobless claims drop to 240,000 - hottest streak in 43 years
U.S. Consumer Sentiment Rose in August
Recovery Is Finally Trickling Down to Least-Educated Workers
U.S. Job Satisfaction Highest Level Since 2005
American manufacturing expanded in August at fastest pace in six years
Donald Trump Ends Obama Effort to Waive Work Requirements for Welfare
Consumer confidence strengthens in August, second-highest level since late 2000
President Trump Cuts More US Debt for a Longer Period of Time Than Any President
Pennsylvania coal company to open a SECOND coal mine
Summer Youth Unemployment Falls, Level Since 1969
In Trump era, American corporations are seeing their best earnings in 13 years
US trade deficit narrows as exports hit 2-1/2-year high
Milestone for Trump: 1 million new jobs in six months
National unemployment rate at 4.3% (lowest it's been in 16 years)
13,000 jobs being created in WI - largest job announcement in WI history (Foxconn)
Black Unemployment, Lowest Level in 17 Years
Gas prices at a 12-year low
Some states are experiencing their lowest unemployment rates in their histories
Trump Announces $200 Million in Apprenticeship Funding
U.S. has record 6 million job openings, 6.8 million Americans are looking for jobs
CEO confidence highest since 2014
U.S. jobless rate falls to lowest level in 16 years
Trump signs bills that helps Veterans and Police officers by giving them Priority and Training
Government spending as percentage of GDP down
1000s of jobs being created through pact with Saudi Arabia
Executive Order on the Establishment of the American Technology Council
USA's small business confidence is spurring a hiring and spending spree
Alibaba Takes First Step To Fulfilling Jack Ma And President Trump's 'One Million U.S. Jobs' Promise
Slashing job-killing regulations left and right
Creating thousands of more jobs for immigration officers and border patrol
Signed a resolution encouraging women in entrepreneurship and STEM
Executive ordered all federal agencies to create task forces to cut regulations that hurt the economy
US Manufacturing Index at a 33-year high
Coal Miners are WINNING. Cut Regulations/Create Jobs/New Plant
US Economic Confidence Surges To Highest Level Ever Recorded By Gallup
State Department
Four Months into FY 2018, Refugee Admissions Plunge to Lowest Level in 15 Years
US increases vetting and resumes processing of refugees from 'high-risk' countries
US Delays Payment to UN for Palestinians
US Suspends $2 BILLION in security assistance to Pakistan
Global Magnitsky Act Signed: Targeting Global Corruption and Human Rights Abuse
North Korea Designated as 'State Sponor of Terrorism'
United States Announces a New Strategy on Iran
Trump Administration Announces 'Extreme Vetting' Plans
Trump cuts Obama’s refugee target in half, takes more Christians than Muslims
New Order Indefinitely Bars Almost All Travel From Seven Countries
UN Security Council unanimously steps up sanctions against North Korea
Fewest Monthly Refugee Arrivals in August Since 2002
Trump to stop travel from countries that refuse to help Homeland Security
America has withdrawn almost $300 million in foreign aid to Egypt
Tillerson to shutter war crimes focused State Dept. office: report
Rex Tillerson, Mediating Gulf Dispute, Signs Antiterrorism Pact With Qatar
Canceled Obama Era special immigration program for foreign entrepreneurs
Critical milestone in the global fight against ISIS
Tillerson to back up Trump efforts to bolster Eastern Europe against Russia
Tillerson Tightens Limits on Filling State Department Jobs
Report: Trump plans to cut foreign aid, merge State and USAID
US to make at least $285m cut to UN budget
Tillerson on North Korea: Military action is 'an option'
It's a bloodbath at the State Department
Homeland Security
DHS is planning on denying green cards to legal immigrants if they receive federal or state aid
Trump takes 'shackles' off ICE, which is slapping them on immigrants who thought they were safe
ICE raid hits 77 businesses in Northern California
End of Year Report: Deportations up 40% - Historically Low Crossings
DHS: Announces New Procedures for Refugee Admissions
Deportations Of Noncriminals Rise As ICE Casts Wider Net
DACA Renewals Drop 21%
30-foot concrete slab prototypes erected along border
ICE has conducted a MASSIVE raid on sanctuary cities this week - 498 illegal immigrants arrested
Trump has updated his travel ban, includes these 8 countries - Chad, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, Somalia - NO EXPIRATION DATE
Crossing The Border Illegally Is Harder Than It’s Been In 50 Years
Withholding Federal Funds from Sanctuary Cities - Must allow ICE access to jails and notify befor release
$1.6 billion down payment to start building the wall
Trump cuts off visas for countries that refuse deported immigrants
Rescinded DACA
Extreme Vetting' for some green cards
Deportation orders up 31% nationwide under Trump
Deportation Orders Up 30%
Miami has removed its "sanctuary" status
ICE raids targeting families net 650 arrests
Denver To ICE: Stop Arresting Illegal Immigrants At Courthouse. ICE To Denver: Not A Chance.
17 Texas sheriffs approved to partner w/ICE
ICE chief wants smuggling charges on leaders of sanctuary cities
New crackdown on 'so-called' sanctuary cities
Raids to target teenaged suspected gang members
Army Corps starts pre-construction work on border wall
Deportations in LA are up 60% alone
80% jump in illegal targets
Feds taking over Texas National Guard mission along border
Border Patrol Morale at Highest Level
Christian refugees admitted now outnumber Muslim refugees admitted
Bill allocates $1.6 billion for Trump's border wall
ICE crackdown scaring some families back to Mexico
No Sanctuary For Criminals Act - deny federal grants to sanctuary cities - Passed House and Senate
Kate's Law - harsher penalties for previously deported criminals - Passed House and Senate
Number of refugees taken in is down 50%
Rescinded DAPA
Workers install final panel in upgrade of border fence
Raids turn Oregon city into ghost town
Ending "catch and release" immigration policy
Silicon Valley Staffing Firm Charged in H1B Fraud
Unshackling ICE - told that they can take action against ALL illegal immigrants - increasing presence in sanctuary cities
Department of Defense
Top 5 ISIS Leaders Captured
Trump signs order to keep Guantanamo Bay prison open
US kills 150 ISIS terrorists in Syria airstrike during government shutdown
ISIS has lost 98 percent of its territory - due to Trump admin
Pentagon Announces First-Ever Audit of the Department of Defense
U.S.-Backed Forces Capture Raqqa from ISIS
ISIS facing imminent collapse in Syria's Raqqa
Gen. Mattis breaks down New Afghanistan Strategy
US-backed fighters 'seize 80% of Raqqa from Islamic State'
Mattis sees need for new DOD space programs
Trump calls for Increased Military: Senate passes $700 billion defense bill
US shares technology with India. Enlisting them to fight in Afghanistan
Mattis vows US support for Ukraine against Russian 'aggression'
U.S. Cyber Command will be elevated to a "Unified Combatant Command"
Mattis decides to withhold U.S. cash from key Pakistani military fund
Mosul liberated from ISIS
Mattis: 'Annihilation Tactics' Being Used Against ISIS
US, Gulf countries form new group: 'TFTC' to stem flow of terror financing
NATO weighs new 'Counter Terrorism Post' following Trump's demands
ISIS leader 'admits DEFEAT in Iraq and orders militants to flee
Mattis Gives White House Tentative Plan for Rapid Defeat of ISIS
James Mattis threatens to ‘moderate’ US backing for Nato over budgets
Trade Deals
Trump Blocks Chinese Purchase of Qualcomm due to National Security
TRUMP SIGNS TARIFF ORDER ON STEEL AND ALUMINUM
Trump Slaps 30% Tariffs on Solar Panels imported from China
Japan Freezes North Korea’s Assets after Trump’s Visit
U.S. Trade Deficit falls to 11-month low
Trump Fights for ‘America First’ as 4th Round of NAFTA Negotiations End
Crude Oil Shipment to India Highlights Expanding Energy Partnership
Trump Blocks China from buying Semi-Conductor company, Lattice
Crude oil shipment from Texas opens new vistas in India-U.S. ties
Argentina agrees to allow first U.S. pork imports in 25 years
Trump orders probe of China's intellectual property practices
New memorandum to protect American IPs from China - Potentially save Billions of dollars and millions in jobs
Coal exports up 60%
China opens rice market for US exports for first time ever
U.S. makes final finding rebar exports from Taiwan
Renegotiating NAFTA with Canada and Mexico in order to make better trade deals - May terminate
United States and Mexico finalize sugar trade deal
First U.S. Natural Gas Shipped to Poland
Signed an Arms Deal worth more than $350 billion and various other investment agreements with Saudi Arabia
China, U.S. reach trade agreement on beef, poultry and natural gas
Trump orders a study on abuses of U.S. trade agreements – WTO
Trump slaps tariffs on Canadian lumber imports
Increased tariffs on Canadian lumber by 20% (worth $1 billion)
China buys more U.S. coal, sends North Korea
Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) TERMINATED
Letter to Patriots
Importance of archiving President Trump's accomplishments
Trump supporters are proud of the job President Trump has done so far.
Donald J. Trump has achieved more in 1 year than the Obama administration did in 8 despite the lack of help he’s received from the Republican Party and the obstructionists in Congress.

Let's take Trump of the equation:

Why would ANY multi billionaire seek a loan(s) for a few million?
Makes no sense.

Why would that same multi billionaire seek loans from entities outside the US?
Because US financial institutions cannot lend to someone with such risk factors.

So, here we have a CLAIMED multi billionaire seeking loans for a few million YET the risks for US entities to loan to said CLAIMED billionaire are out of the scope of business acumen.

The ONLY thing that this suggest to me is that said CLAIMED multi billionaire actually owns NO real assets and ONLY owns DEBT; nothing else.

So, let's put Trump back in the picture. Trump has made all of you rubes look like the dumb assess that you really are.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

'In early 2016, with Donald Trump lending tens of millions of dollars to his presidential campaign, he sought a loan from Deutsche Bank, one of the few banks still willing to lend him money — and got turned down, the NY Times' David Enrich, Jesse Drucker and Ben Protess scoop.

Be smart: We're going to start to see more and more leaks — especially of the follow-the-money sort — from the 17 known investigations of Trump and Russia. Investigators and prosecutors will be sharing material that they may not be able to use in their cases, but that could be very useful to Democrats for congressional probes and even impeachment efforts.

• "The failed loan request ... shows that he was actively engaged in running his business in the midst of the presidential campaign, and it is likely to attract scrutiny from Democrats on two House committees that are investigating his two-decade relationship with Deutsche Bank."
• Among the concerns of senior officials at the bank "was that if Mr. Trump won the election and then defaulted, Deutsche Bank would have to choose between not collecting on the debt or seizing the assets of the president of the United States."'

Trump's Deutsche Bank loan leak foreshadows coming investigations from House Democrats

Interesting.

Besides the legal ramifications - the guy is supposedly worth $10 billion bsflag and he not only is getting a load to cover his campaign contributions...but got turned down.

Financially, Trump is CLEARLY full of it.

If you're going to BS, at least put in some accurate numbers.
Donald Trump

So Donald's claims to be worth $10 billion are BS? Sounds like that was the OP's point.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

'In early 2016, with Donald Trump lending tens of millions of dollars to his presidential campaign, he sought a loan from Deutsche Bank, one of the few banks still willing to lend him money — and got turned down, the NY Times' David Enrich, Jesse Drucker and Ben Protess scoop.

Be smart: We're going to start to see more and more leaks — especially of the follow-the-money sort — from the 17 known investigations of Trump and Russia. Investigators and prosecutors will be sharing material that they may not be able to use in their cases, but that could be very useful to Democrats for congressional probes and even impeachment efforts.

• "The failed loan request ... shows that he was actively engaged in running his business in the midst of the presidential campaign, and it is likely to attract scrutiny from Democrats on two House committees that are investigating his two-decade relationship with Deutsche Bank."
• Among the concerns of senior officials at the bank "was that if Mr. Trump won the election and then defaulted, Deutsche Bank would have to choose between not collecting on the debt or seizing the assets of the president of the United States."'

Trump's Deutsche Bank loan leak foreshadows coming investigations from House Democrats

Interesting.

Besides the legal ramifications - the guy is supposedly worth $10 billion bsflag and he not only is getting a load to cover his campaign contributions...but got turned down.

Financially, Trump is CLEARLY full of it.

If you're going to BS, at least put in some accurate numbers.
Donald Trump

So Donald's claims to be worth $10 billion are BS? Sounds like that was the OP's point.

The only points you and the OP have are on the top of your heads!

 

[caddo kid]

'In early 2016, with Donald Trump lending tens of millions of dollars to his presidential campaign, he sought a loan from Deutsche Bank, one of the few banks still willing to lend him money — and got turned down, the NY Times' David Enrich, Jesse Drucker and Ben Protess scoop.

Be smart: We're going to start to see more and more leaks — especially of the follow-the-money sort — from the 17 known investigations of Trump and Russia. Investigators and prosecutors will be sharing material that they may not be able to use in their cases, but that could be very useful to Democrats for congressional probes and even impeachment efforts.

• "The failed loan request ... shows that he was actively engaged in running his business in the midst of the presidential campaign, and it is likely to attract scrutiny from Democrats on two House committees that are investigating his two-decade relationship with Deutsche Bank."
• Among the concerns of senior officials at the bank "was that if Mr. Trump won the election and then defaulted, Deutsche Bank would have to choose between not collecting on the debt or seizing the assets of the president of the United States."'

Trump's Deutsche Bank loan leak foreshadows coming investigations from House Democrats

Interesting.

Besides the legal ramifications - the guy is supposedly worth $10 billion bsflag and he not only is getting a load to cover his campaign contributions...but got turned down.

Financially, Trump is CLEARLY full of it.

If you're going to BS, at least put in some accurate numbers.
Donald Trump

So Donald's claims to be worth $10 billion are BS? Sounds like that was the OP's point.

Personally, I do not believe Trump actually owns any assets; I believe the ONLY thing Trump owns is debt & nothing else.

His business activities have NEVER supported the level of life style he leads.

Trump has lived a LIE his entire life but some people actually believe bull shit.

 

[McRocket]

'In early 2016, with Donald Trump lending tens of millions of dollars to his presidential campaign, he sought a loan from Deutsche Bank, one of the few banks still willing to lend him money — and got turned down, the NY Times' David Enrich, Jesse Drucker and Ben Protess scoop.

Be smart: We're going to start to see more and more leaks — especially of the follow-the-money sort — from the 17 known investigations of Trump and Russia. Investigators and prosecutors will be sharing material that they may not be able to use in their cases, but that could be very useful to Democrats for congressional probes and even impeachment efforts.

• "The failed loan request ... shows that he was actively engaged in running his business in the midst of the presidential campaign, and it is likely to attract scrutiny from Democrats on two House committees that are investigating his two-decade relationship with Deutsche Bank."
• Among the concerns of senior officials at the bank "was that if Mr. Trump won the election and then defaulted, Deutsche Bank would have to choose between not collecting on the debt or seizing the assets of the president of the United States."'

Trump's Deutsche Bank loan leak foreshadows coming investigations from House Democrats

Interesting.

Besides the legal ramifications - the guy is supposedly worth $10 billion bsflag and he not only is getting a load to cover his campaign contributions...but got turned down.

Financially, Trump is CLEARLY full of it.

If you're going to BS, at least put in some accurate numbers.
Donald Trump

So Donald's claims to be worth $10 billion are BS? Sounds like that was the OP's point.

It was my point.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sorry...I was giving you credit for having morals/ethics. My mistake.

Excuse you asshole... I am commenting on the actions of others, not my own actions. I was never under the delusion that our interest is purely humanitarian. That doesn't speak to my ethics or morals at all. It also appears to be in full agreement with you. So stop being stupid.

I am no neocon...I am explaining the situation, not excusing it. You really need to settle down. No matter what you or anyone else had for breakfast, the facts of the situation are what they are. And they must be accounted for. And we can lament the quasi imperial efforts of our own country to impose our will on others all day, but the facts will remain:

Venezuela is in a state of crisis because its president held an illegal election and undermined its Constitution and democracy.

We have been destabilizing and about the business of regime change ever since Chavez got in. No way around it. We're a corporate conglomerate empire with a military. We extract. Enjoy the blow back.

I don't disagree. And you will be enjoying it just as much as I am.

 

[McRocket]

Edward Bernays - Wikipedia

The Making of Juan Guaidó: US Regime-Change Laboratory Created Venezuela’s Coup Leader
The Making of Juan Guaidó: US Regime-Change Laboratory Created Venezuela’s Coup Leader

Same old american empire of illusion nonsense.

And yet the facts remain that maduro held an illegal election, while guaido is the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. And no number of opinion pieces is going to dislodge these facts

And yet we've been in there attempting to take down the govt since Chavez got it. You're way late man.

Neato!

But maduro still violated Venezuela laws and Constitution, and Guaido is still the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. There are facts that are not going to go away.

Neato! American democracy around the world means america is in charge of your nation and we will be tearing your nation down to erect one of our choosing.

Fweedumb.

Well, with economic power comes power to inflict economic sanctions. And maduro left the door wide open, with his illegal activity. So the crisis in Venezuela will occur will or without our assistance. And we have every right to choose a side. Value judgments aside, maduro brought an end to his own regime. Now the military dominoes are falling. It would be derelict not to position ourselves in favor of our own interests,like it or not.

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon - desperate to get brave Americans (and LOTS of innocent civilians) killed so you can sleep a little better.
You make me sick.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

You have a problem with the above - take it up with Dr. Paul.

I don't remotely have enough respect for you on this to waste my time 'debating' with you on it (I was bored and saw your post so I typed something).

You are a neocon...you get brave Americans and innocent civilians killed by the thousands AND you do nothing but weaken America. And you disgust me on this.


Also...it's WAAAY off topic for the thread.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And yet the facts remain that maduro held an illegal election, while guaido is the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. And no number of opinion pieces is going to dislodge these facts

And yet we've been in there attempting to take down the govt since Chavez got it. You're way late man.

Neato!

But maduro still violated Venezuela laws and Constitution, and Guaido is still the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. There are facts that are not going to go away.

Neato! American democracy around the world means america is in charge of your nation and we will be tearing your nation down to erect one of our choosing.

Fweedumb.

Well, with economic power comes power to inflict economic sanctions. And maduro left the door wide open, with his illegal activity. So the crisis in Venezuela will occur will or without our assistance. And we have every right to choose a side. Value judgments aside, maduro brought an end to his own regime. Now the military dominoes are falling. It would be derelict not to position ourselves in favor of our own interests,like it or not.

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

Please stop being a fucking moron. I am no neocon. I'm just a guy trying to understand what is going on the world, amd a flaming liberal one, at that. And the facts must be accounted for. Maduro held illegal elections and is now an authoritarian. Those are just facts. And I will pass judgment on Guaido by the same standards.

You have no reason to say any of that to me. You are an excitable little person that leapt to judgment based on things you imagined i said.

I'm not sure I do support our country's actions...bit i will still try to understand them. And having an honest discussion about them will mean getting the facts straight. And you had your little fit simplby because i corrected the overwrought nonsense that Guaido is simply some arbitrary American shill who declared himself president. That is just not factual.

 

[JimH52]

trump is a fraud and a liar....

 

[Ambivalent1]

And yet the facts remain that maduro held an illegal election, while guaido is the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. And no number of opinion pieces is going to dislodge these facts

And yet we've been in there attempting to take down the govt since Chavez got it. You're way late man.

Neato!

But maduro still violated Venezuela laws and Constitution, and Guaido is still the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. There are facts that are not going to go away.

Neato! American democracy around the world means america is in charge of your nation and we will be tearing your nation down to erect one of our choosing.

Fweedumb.

Well, with economic power comes power to inflict economic sanctions. And maduro left the door wide open, with his illegal activity. So the crisis in Venezuela will occur will or without our assistance. And we have every right to choose a side. Value judgments aside, maduro brought an end to his own regime. Now the military dominoes are falling. It would be derelict not to position ourselves in favor of our own interests,like it or not.

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon - desperate to get brave Americans (and LOTS of innocent civilians) killed so you can sleep a little better.
You make me sick.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

You have a problem with the above - take it up with Dr. Paul.

I don't remotely have enough respect for you on this to waste my time 'debating' with you on it (I was bored and saw your post so I typed something).

You are a neocon...you get brave Americans and innocent civilians killed by the thousands AND you do nothing but weaken America. And you disgust me on this.


Also...it's WAAAY off topic for the thread.

The sad part of all of this is that we (American's) are incapable of seeing that this is exactly what the Political Class and above wants.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And yet we've been in there attempting to take down the govt since Chavez got it. You're way late man.

Neato!

But maduro still violated Venezuela laws and Constitution, and Guaido is still the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. There are facts that are not going to go away.

Neato! American democracy around the world means america is in charge of your nation and we will be tearing your nation down to erect one of our choosing.

Fweedumb.

Well, with economic power comes power to inflict economic sanctions. And maduro left the door wide open, with his illegal activity. So the crisis in Venezuela will occur will or without our assistance. And we have every right to choose a side. Value judgments aside, maduro brought an end to his own regime. Now the military dominoes are falling. It would be derelict not to position ourselves in favor of our own interests,like it or not.

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon - desperate to get brave Americans (and LOTS of innocent civilians) killed so you can sleep a little better.
You make me sick.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

You have a problem with the above - take it up with Dr. Paul.

I don't remotely have enough respect for you on this to waste my time 'debating' with you on it (I was bored and saw your post so I typed something).

You are a neocon...you get brave Americans and innocent civilians killed by the thousands AND you do nothing but weaken America. And you disgust me on this.


Also...it's WAAAY off topic for the thread.

The sad part of all of this is that we (American's) are incapable of seeing that this is exactly what the Political Class and above wants.

Ron Paul is a fool. That article is moronic and embarrassing. He says we shouldn't "help" or get involved, but allowing maduro to keep his oil revenue stream from the US and to steal his country's gold is precisely helping him. So we don't have the luxury of "staying neutral". Thank you Ron Paul for another idiotic set of ideas to toss in the "gold standard" trash bin.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Neato!

But maduro still violated Venezuela laws and Constitution, and Guaido is still the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. There are facts that are not going to go away.

Neato! American democracy around the world means america is in charge of your nation and we will be tearing your nation down to erect one of our choosing.

Fweedumb.

Well, with economic power comes power to inflict economic sanctions. And maduro left the door wide open, with his illegal activity. So the crisis in Venezuela will occur will or without our assistance. And we have every right to choose a side. Value judgments aside, maduro brought an end to his own regime. Now the military dominoes are falling. It would be derelict not to position ourselves in favor of our own interests,like it or not.

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon - desperate to get brave Americans (and LOTS of innocent civilians) killed so you can sleep a little better.
You make me sick.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

You have a problem with the above - take it up with Dr. Paul.

I don't remotely have enough respect for you on this to waste my time 'debating' with you on it (I was bored and saw your post so I typed something).

You are a neocon...you get brave Americans and innocent civilians killed by the thousands AND you do nothing but weaken America. And you disgust me on this.


Also...it's WAAAY off topic for the thread.

The sad part of all of this is that we (American's) are incapable of seeing that this is exactly what the Political Class and above wants.

Ron Paul is a fool. That article is moronic and embarrassing. He says we shouldn't "help" or get involved, but allowing maduro to keep his oil revenue stream from the US and to steal his country's gold is precisely helping him. So we don't have the luxury of "staying neutral". Thank you Ron Paul for another idiotic set of ideas to toss in the "gold standard" trash bin.

Grow up. Ron who?

 

[McRocket]

Neato!

But maduro still violated Venezuela laws and Constitution, and Guaido is still the highest democratically elected official in Venezuela. There are facts that are not going to go away.

Neato! American democracy around the world means america is in charge of your nation and we will be tearing your nation down to erect one of our choosing.

Fweedumb.

Well, with economic power comes power to inflict economic sanctions. And maduro left the door wide open, with his illegal activity. So the crisis in Venezuela will occur will or without our assistance. And we have every right to choose a side. Value judgments aside, maduro brought an end to his own regime. Now the military dominoes are falling. It would be derelict not to position ourselves in favor of our own interests,like it or not.

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon - desperate to get brave Americans (and LOTS of innocent civilians) killed so you can sleep a little better.
You make me sick.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

You have a problem with the above - take it up with Dr. Paul.

I don't remotely have enough respect for you on this to waste my time 'debating' with you on it (I was bored and saw your post so I typed something).

You are a neocon...you get brave Americans and innocent civilians killed by the thousands AND you do nothing but weaken America. And you disgust me on this.


Also...it's WAAAY off topic for the thread.

The sad part of all of this is that we (American's) are incapable of seeing that this is exactly what the Political Class and above wants.

Ron Paul is a fool. That article is moronic and embarrassing. He says we shouldn't "help" or get involved, but allowing maduro to keep his oil revenue stream from the US and to steal his country's gold is precisely helping him. So we don't have the luxury of "staying neutral". Thank you Ron Paul for another idiotic set of ideas to toss in the "gold standard" trash bin.

One other thing...did you ever serve (I did, BTW - the reserves)?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Neato! American democracy around the world means america is in charge of your nation and we will be tearing your nation down to erect one of our choosing.

Fweedumb.

Well, with economic power comes power to inflict economic sanctions. And maduro left the door wide open, with his illegal activity. So the crisis in Venezuela will occur will or without our assistance. And we have every right to choose a side. Value judgments aside, maduro brought an end to his own regime. Now the military dominoes are falling. It would be derelict not to position ourselves in favor of our own interests,like it or not.

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon - desperate to get brave Americans (and LOTS of innocent civilians) killed so you can sleep a little better.
You make me sick.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

You have a problem with the above - take it up with Dr. Paul.

I don't remotely have enough respect for you on this to waste my time 'debating' with you on it (I was bored and saw your post so I typed something).

You are a neocon...you get brave Americans and innocent civilians killed by the thousands AND you do nothing but weaken America. And you disgust me on this.


Also...it's WAAAY off topic for the thread.

The sad part of all of this is that we (American's) are incapable of seeing that this is exactly what the Political Class and above wants.

Ron Paul is a fool. That article is moronic and embarrassing. He says we shouldn't "help" or get involved, but allowing maduro to keep his oil revenue stream from the US and to steal his country's gold is precisely helping him. So we don't have the luxury of "staying neutral". Thank you Ron Paul for another idiotic set of ideas to toss in the "gold standard" trash bin.

One other thing...did you ever serve (I did, BTW - the reserves)?

Irrelevant. I don't talk about my military service here. And I certainly don't advocate sending troops to Venezuela.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Well, with economic power comes power to inflict economic sanctions. And maduro left the door wide open, with his illegal activity. So the crisis in Venezuela will occur will or without our assistance. And we have every right to choose a side. Value judgments aside, maduro brought an end to his own regime. Now the military dominoes are falling. It would be derelict not to position ourselves in favor of our own interests,like it or not.

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon - desperate to get brave Americans (and LOTS of innocent civilians) killed so you can sleep a little better.
You make me sick.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

You have a problem with the above - take it up with Dr. Paul.

I don't remotely have enough respect for you on this to waste my time 'debating' with you on it (I was bored and saw your post so I typed something).

You are a neocon...you get brave Americans and innocent civilians killed by the thousands AND you do nothing but weaken America. And you disgust me on this.


Also...it's WAAAY off topic for the thread.

The sad part of all of this is that we (American's) are incapable of seeing that this is exactly what the Political Class and above wants.

Ron Paul is a fool. That article is moronic and embarrassing. He says we shouldn't "help" or get involved, but allowing maduro to keep his oil revenue stream from the US and to steal his country's gold is precisely helping him. So we don't have the luxury of "staying neutral". Thank you Ron Paul for another idiotic set of ideas to toss in the "gold standard" trash bin.

One other thing...did you ever serve (I did, BTW - the reserves)?

Irrelevant. I don't talk about my military service here. And I certainly don't advocate sending troops to Venezuela.

You didn't serve. If you did it was in a rear end capacity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are nothing but a pathetic neocon...and a hypocrite, at that.

If Russia/China were acting EXACTLY as America is now after the 2016 election (because - for some weird reason - they wanted Clinton instead of Trump), you would be screaming how wrong it is, guaranteed.

You are nothing (on this) but an immoral, dishonorable, ends-justifies-the-means neocon - desperate to get brave Americans (and LOTS of innocent civilians) killed so you can sleep a little better.
You make me sick.

And neocons have done more harm to America than ANY terrorist group could ever dream of doing.

Ron Paul can explain it better than I ever could:

'4 months ago Trump said, “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The US will not tell you…”

by Ron Paul of Ron Paul Institute

Last week President Trump announced that the United States would no longer recognize Nicholas Maduro as president of Venezuela and would recognize the head of its national assembly, Jose Guaido, as president instead. US thus openly backs regime change. But what has long been a dream of the neocons may well turn out to be a nightmare for President Trump.


Why did Trump declare that the Venezuelan president was no longer the president? According to the State Department, the Administration was acting to help enforce the Venezuelan constitution. If only they were so eager to enforce our own Constitution!

It’s ironic that a president who has spent the first two years in office fighting charges that a foreign country meddled in the US elections would turn around and not only meddle in foreign elections but actually demand the right to name a foreign country’s president! How would we react if the Chinese and Russians decided that President Trump was not upholding the US Constitution and recognized Speaker Nancy Pelosi as US president instead?

Even those who would like to see a change of government in Venezuela should reject any notion that the change must be “helped” by the United States. According to press reports, Vice President Mike Pence was so involved in internal Venezuelan affairs that he actually urged Guaido to name himself president and promised US support. This is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. A Venezuelan civil war would result in mass death and even more economic misery!

Regime change has long been US policy for Venezuela. The US has been conducting economic warfare practically since Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chavez, was first elected in 1998. The goal of US sanctions and other economic measures against Venezuela (and other countries in Washington’s crosshairs) is to make life so miserable for average citizens that they rise up and overthrow their leaders. But of course once they do so they must replace those leaders with someone approved by Washington. Remember after the “Arab Spring” in Egypt when the people did rise up and overthrow their leader, but they then elected the “wrong” candidate. The army moved in and deposed the elected president and replaced him with a Washington-approved politician. Then-Secretary of State John Kerry called it “restoring democracy.”

It is tragically comical that President Trump has named convicted criminal Elliot Abrams as his point person to “restore democracy” in Venezuela. Abrams played a key role in the Iran-Contra affair and went on to be one of the chief architects of the disastrous US invasion of Iraq in 2003. His role in helping promote the horrible violence in Latin America in the 1980s should disqualify him from ever holding public office again.

Instead of this ham-fisted coup d’etat, a better policy for Venezuela these past 20 years would have been engagement and trade. If we truly believe in the superiority of a free market system we must also believe that we can only lead by example, not by forcing our system on others.

Just four months ago President Trump said at the UN: “I honor the right of every nation in this room to pursue its own customs, beliefs, and traditions. The United States will not tell you how to live or work or worship. We only ask that you honor our sovereignty in return.” Sadly it seems that these were merely empty words. We know from Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc. that this will not end well for President Trump. Or for the United States. We must leave Venezuela alone!'

You have a problem with the above - take it up with Dr. Paul.

I don't remotely have enough respect for you on this to waste my time 'debating' with you on it (I was bored and saw your post so I typed something).

You are a neocon...you get brave Americans and innocent civilians killed by the thousands AND you do nothing but weaken America. And you disgust me on this.


Also...it's WAAAY off topic for the thread.

The sad part of all of this is that we (American's) are incapable of seeing that this is exactly what the Political Class and above wants.

Ron Paul is a fool. That article is moronic and embarrassing. He says we shouldn't "help" or get involved, but allowing maduro to keep his oil revenue stream from the US and to steal his country's gold is precisely helping him. So we don't have the luxury of "staying neutral". Thank you Ron Paul for another idiotic set of ideas to toss in the "gold standard" trash bin.

One other thing...did you ever serve (I did, BTW - the reserves)?

Irrelevant. I don't talk about my military service here. And I certainly don't advocate sending troops to Venezuela.

You didn't serve. If you did it was in a rear end capacity.

And the nightly Americano baby hissy fit begins...

And you are half right. I was way too smart to be a bullet stopper.

 

[McRocket]

The sad part of all of this is that we (American's) are incapable of seeing that this is exactly what the Political Class and above wants.

Ron Paul is a fool. That article is moronic and embarrassing. He says we shouldn't "help" or get involved, but allowing maduro to keep his oil revenue stream from the US and to steal his country's gold is precisely helping him. So we don't have the luxury of "staying neutral". Thank you Ron Paul for another idiotic set of ideas to toss in the "gold standard" trash bin.

One other thing...did you ever serve (I did, BTW - the reserves)?

Irrelevant. I don't talk about my military service here. And I certainly don't advocate sending troops to Venezuela.

You didn't serve. If you did it was in a rear end capacity.

And the nightly Americano baby hissy fit begins...

And you are half right. I was way too smart to be a bullet stopper.

So, I will take that as a 'no' (and I do not believe you do not want to send troops to Venezuela if Trump/Obama/POTUS said he had to)...than you are a TOTAL hypocrite on this (like that scumbag, John Bolton).

You are prepared to send troops ALL over the world to go and fight your battles...but you have not got the guts to serve yourself.

McCain and Graham were/are neocons. But at least they had the guts to serve. So they are not hypocrites when they called/call for US troops to fight abroad.

Yup...you make me sick (on this) alright.

The ultimate neocon...desperate to get American troops killed fighting your little wars...but has not got the guts to stick his own neck on the line for his country.

What's it like to have a spine like wet spaghetti (rhetorical question)?


Now I am done with you on this.

Besides, this is WAAAY off topic.