Trump's Comments About Abortion at the State of the Union Were Historic

[BWK]

The b!tches in heat showed where they stand on killing babies, in complete contradiction to their human nature as women and potential mothers.

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Townhall ^ | 02/06/2019

You could sum up in one word why many evangelicals voted for Donald Trump: abortion. It is therefore highly significant that it was Trump who made what might well be the strongest pro-life statement ever in a State of the Union address.

In 2003, President George W. Bush spoke out against partial-birth abortion, saying, “By caring for children who need mentors, and for addicted men and women who need treatment, we are building a more welcoming society -- a culture that values every life. And in this work we must not overlook the weakest among us. I ask you to protect infants at the very hour of their birth and end the practice of partial-birth abortion.”

But Trump took things to another level by rebuking the celebration of New York’s new abortion law and Virginia Gov. Northam’s infanticide comments. The president minced no words.

He said, “There could be no greater contrast to the beautiful image of a mother holding her infant child than the chilling displays our Nation saw in recent days. Lawmakers in New York cheered with delight upon the passage of legislation that would allow a baby to be ripped from the mother's womb moments before birth. These are living, feeling, beautiful babies who will never get the chance to share their love and dreams with the world. And then, we had the case of the Governor of Virginia where he basically stated he would execute a baby after birth.”

So, he first appealed to a mother’s instincts, then contrasted that with the heartlessness of lawmakers cheering a brutal abortion law, then described Gov. Northam’s position for exactly what it was: giving parents the right to “execute a baby after birth.”

This was a significant moment in the history of the pro-life movement.

He continued, “To defend the dignity of every person, I am asking the Congress to pass legislation to prohibit the late-term abortion of children who can feel pain in the mother’s womb. Let us work together to build a culture that cherishes innocent life. And let us reaffirm a fundamental truth: all children -- born and unborn -- are made in the holy image of God.”

o repeat: This was a historic moment.

The president spoke of the personhood of the baby in the womb, thereby declaring that it is not simply a mass of cells. He spoke of the baby’s ability to feel pain, underscoring the cruelty of abortion. He spoke of the unborn as “innocent life,” reminding us of the injustice of abortion. And then he spoke of all children – inside and outside the womb – as made in God’s holy image.

Was Trump simply playing to his base? Was he trying to rally the troops for 2020? Was he sounding religious when he is no such thing?

Perhaps. Perhaps he’s simply saying what his constituents want to hear.

But even if that was the case, it would be still highly significant, given the power of the president’s bully pulpit.

But the truth is that Trump has backed his words with actions.

He has appointed pro-life justices to the courts.

He has signed pro-life bills.

And he has been consistent in his stance throughout his presidency.

In that respect, whether he really means what he says and does is secondary. What matters is that he is both saying it and doing it.

Not surprisingly, there was immediate liberal pushback against comments, with Lydia O’Connor at the Huffington Post proclaiming, “Trump Turns To Absurd Abortion Imagery In State Of The Union Speech."

“The president claimed that a new New York law would ‘allow a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.’”

O’Connor dismisses Trump’s claims, writing, “what the bill does is expand access to abortion after 24 weeks of pregnancy to women carrying a fetus that cannot live outside the womb. Previously, the procedure was available only to women at that stage of pregnancy if their health was threatened.”

n support of this, she links to another article which notes that, “Under the new law . . . women can also get an abortion after 24 weeks if their health is threatened or the fetus isn’t viable.”

So, the very link provided by O’Connor contradicts her argument and vindicates Trump’s imagery: Right up to the moment of the birth, if an abortion was deemed necessary for the mother’s health, it could be performed.

Why not own up to it?

Why not celebrate it, as the New York lawmakers did?

And, in the spirit of “women’s rights,” why does it matter if the baby is aborted at 8 weeks or at 30 weeks? What is wrong with Trump’s imagery if the baby is still in the womb?

Right now, with the increasing militancy of the pro-abortionists, the pro-life movement is freshly mobilized.

And the roles of President Trump and Vice President Pence have been highly significant as well, with Pence addressing last month’s pro-life rally in person and Trump doing so remotely.

Pence also wrote a stinging response to Gov. Northam’s remarks, which he characterized as “morally reprehensible and evil.”

Against this backdrop, the importance of Trump’s State of the Union comments can hardly be exaggerated, underscoring why many evangelicals voted for him.

How different things would look today had Hillary Clinton been president.

Why would lawmakers pass a law that says a baby can be ripped from the womb? What is their justification?

Rape, incest, the health of the mother, and the fact that the fetus does not have a developed brain that can experience emotion or pain.

 

[BWK]

Simple....don't like abortion....don't have one. Stop trying to control women's bodies.

But women can control the lives and bodies of men’s babies.
Roe vs Wade = Dred Scott.
Hypocrite.

Not if the man doesn't get the woman pregnant. That door swings open both ways.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Simple....don't like abortion....don't have one. Stop trying to control women's bodies.

That cliched leftist meme is such tiresome bullshit! Unfortunately there is another life to be heard from that can't speak for him/herself. People will stop trying to control women's bodies when women stop treating the life inside them like it's trash or like a slave and they are slave owners who can do whatever they like because some lives just don't matter to anyone.

Except the fetus is not a fully developed human being with a developed brain that can answer the question.

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

I got an email from my daughter Tuesday. They finally got their child, a year and a half old male.
I know they are extremely grateful that child was not aborted.

 

[sealybobo]

The b!tches in heat showed where they stand on killing babies, in complete contradiction to their human nature as women and potential mothers.

Read much more
Townhall ^ | 02/06/2019

You could sum up in one word why many evangelicals voted for Donald Trump: abortion. It is therefore highly significant that it was Trump who made what might well be the strongest pro-life statement ever in a State of the Union address.

In 2003, President George W. Bush spoke out against partial-birth abortion, saying, “By caring for children who need mentors, and for addicted men and women who need treatment, we are building a more welcoming society -- a culture that values every life. And in this work we must not overlook the weakest among us. I ask you to protect infants at the very hour of their birth and end the practice of partial-birth abortion.”

But Trump took things to another level by rebuking the celebration of New York’s new abortion law and Virginia Gov. Northam’s infanticide comments. The president minced no words.

He said, “There could be no greater contrast to the beautiful image of a mother holding her infant child than the chilling displays our Nation saw in recent days. Lawmakers in New York cheered with delight upon the passage of legislation that would allow a baby to be ripped from the mother's womb moments before birth. These are living, feeling, beautiful babies who will never get the chance to share their love and dreams with the world. And then, we had the case of the Governor of Virginia where he basically stated he would execute a baby after birth.”

So, he first appealed to a mother’s instincts, then contrasted that with the heartlessness of lawmakers cheering a brutal abortion law, then described Gov. Northam’s position for exactly what it was: giving parents the right to “execute a baby after birth.”

This was a significant moment in the history of the pro-life movement.

He continued, “To defend the dignity of every person, I am asking the Congress to pass legislation to prohibit the late-term abortion of children who can feel pain in the mother’s womb. Let us work together to build a culture that cherishes innocent life. And let us reaffirm a fundamental truth: all children -- born and unborn -- are made in the holy image of God.”

o repeat: This was a historic moment.

The president spoke of the personhood of the baby in the womb, thereby declaring that it is not simply a mass of cells. He spoke of the baby’s ability to feel pain, underscoring the cruelty of abortion. He spoke of the unborn as “innocent life,” reminding us of the injustice of abortion. And then he spoke of all children – inside and outside the womb – as made in God’s holy image.

Was Trump simply playing to his base? Was he trying to rally the troops for 2020? Was he sounding religious when he is no such thing?

Perhaps. Perhaps he’s simply saying what his constituents want to hear.

But even if that was the case, it would be still highly significant, given the power of the president’s bully pulpit.

But the truth is that Trump has backed his words with actions.

He has appointed pro-life justices to the courts.

He has signed pro-life bills.

And he has been consistent in his stance throughout his presidency.

In that respect, whether he really means what he says and does is secondary. What matters is that he is both saying it and doing it.

Not surprisingly, there was immediate liberal pushback against comments, with Lydia O’Connor at the Huffington Post proclaiming, “Trump Turns To Absurd Abortion Imagery In State Of The Union Speech."

“The president claimed that a new New York law would ‘allow a baby to be ripped from the mother’s womb moments before birth.’”

O’Connor dismisses Trump’s claims, writing, “what the bill does is expand access to abortion after 24 weeks of pregnancy to women carrying a fetus that cannot live outside the womb. Previously, the procedure was available only to women at that stage of pregnancy if their health was threatened.”

n support of this, she links to another article which notes that, “Under the new law . . . women can also get an abortion after 24 weeks if their health is threatened or the fetus isn’t viable.”

So, the very link provided by O’Connor contradicts her argument and vindicates Trump’s imagery: Right up to the moment of the birth, if an abortion was deemed necessary for the mother’s health, it could be performed.

Why not own up to it?

Why not celebrate it, as the New York lawmakers did?

And, in the spirit of “women’s rights,” why does it matter if the baby is aborted at 8 weeks or at 30 weeks? What is wrong with Trump’s imagery if the baby is still in the womb?

Right now, with the increasing militancy of the pro-abortionists, the pro-life movement is freshly mobilized.

And the roles of President Trump and Vice President Pence have been highly significant as well, with Pence addressing last month’s pro-life rally in person and Trump doing so remotely.

Pence also wrote a stinging response to Gov. Northam’s remarks, which he characterized as “morally reprehensible and evil.”

Against this backdrop, the importance of Trump’s State of the Union comments can hardly be exaggerated, underscoring why many evangelicals voted for him.

How different things would look today had Hillary Clinton been president.

Why would lawmakers pass a law that says a baby can be ripped from the womb? What is their justification?

Rape, incest, the health of the mother, and the fact that the fetus does not have a developed brain that can experience emotion or pain.

Another reason is because the woman doesn’t want to have a baby. Republicans want to say tough shit you have to have it even if it’s just a seed that feels nothing

 

[BWK]

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

I got an email from my daughter Tuesday. They finally got their child, a year and a half old male.
I know they are extremely grateful that child was not aborted.

Aren't you glad they had the opportunity to choose? Can you imagine if the health of your daughter had been jeopardized, and that choice hadn't been there?

 

[sealybobo]

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

I got an email from my daughter Tuesday. They finally got their child, a year and a half old male.
I know they are extremely grateful that child was not aborted.

They would have just got another one.

And let’s see how they feel when the kids a teenager. Sure everyone loves babies

And you don’t sound very attached. You talk about it like it’s a new horse or bull.

And she didn’t even call? Just sent you an email? Your post sounds odd to me.

 

[sealybobo]

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

I got an email from my daughter Tuesday. They finally got their child, a year and a half old male.
I know they are extremely grateful that child was not aborted.

Aren't you glad they had the opportunity to choose? Can you imagine if the health of your daughter had been jeopardized, and that choice hadn't been there?

I don’t even like having this conversation. Next thing you know republicans are compromising with us. We can abort but only if the mothers life is in danger.

Fuck that. What if the baby is severely retarded? I want an abortion. And I’m glad the choice is there so if I want to raise a mongaloid I can.

 

[BWK]

Simple....don't like abortion....don't have one. Stop trying to control women's bodies.

That cliched leftist meme is such tiresome bullshit! Unfortunately there is another life to be heard from that can't speak for him/herself. People will stop trying to control women's bodies when women stop treating the life inside them like it's trash or like a slave and they are slave owners who can do whatever they like because some lives just don't matter to anyone.

Except the fetus is not a fully developed human being with a developed brain that can answer the question.

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

How many nine month old fetuses do you see being aborted, unless it is necessary for the health of the mother? "Good grief"!

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

They would have just got another one.

It's a human child, shithead. Not a bag of Cheetos. They've been waiting and jumping through hoops for a couple of years as it is.

And let’s see how they feel when the kids a teenager. Sure everyone loves babies

Are you a parent? Are you allowed to breed? Everyone knows raising a child isn't all rainbows and
lollipops. So what?

And you don’t sound very attached. You talk about it like it’s a new horse or bull.

Okay, based on your extensive knowledge of my personality and past I'll take your unsolicited comment for what it is.....utter bullshit!

And she didn’t even call? Just sent you an email? Your post sounds odd to me.

I emailed her on an unrelated matter (my other daughter is expecting another child any day) and she emailed back. My post seems "odd" to you? Yours seems like pointless trolling to me.

 

[sealybobo]

Simple....don't like abortion....don't have one. Stop trying to control women's bodies.

That cliched leftist meme is such tiresome bullshit! Unfortunately there is another life to be heard from that can't speak for him/herself. People will stop trying to control women's bodies when women stop treating the life inside them like it's trash or like a slave and they are slave owners who can do whatever they like because some lives just don't matter to anyone.

Except the fetus is not a fully developed human being with a developed brain that can answer the question.

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

How many nine month old fetuses do you see being aborted, unless it is necessary for the health of the mother? "Good grief"!

This is like the tranny in the bathroom argument. They practically don’t exist except for extreme reasons.

I saw a documentary on 3 couples getting late term abortions. I agreed with all of them.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my dad about morality and having a spouse with Alzheimer’s. Every rational person agrees the guy should be dating while he takes care of his dieing wife. She doesn’t understand the other woman is his girlfriend in fact she doesn’t even know who her husband is. So is that breaking your marriage vows? Hell no. And killing a mongaloid is not murder. Neither is aborting a seed.

 

[sealybobo]

They would have just got another one.

It's a human child, shithead .

It is now that it’s been born. If it was aborted it wouldn’t be.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

It is now that it’s been born. If it was aborted it wouldn’t be.

This barely deserves the dignity of a reply. You sound like an old racist slaveholder who treats his slaves like animals he can kill or beat as he wishes because he doesn't have to see them as human beings. It doesn't profit him to do so.

We need something like the Fourteenth Amendment to give rights to human beings in vitro so amoral pricks like you
can't deny their humanity.

 

[BWK]

Simple....don't like abortion....don't have one. Stop trying to control women's bodies.

That cliched leftist meme is such tiresome bullshit! Unfortunately there is another life to be heard from that can't speak for him/herself. People will stop trying to control women's bodies when women stop treating the life inside them like it's trash or like a slave and they are slave owners who can do whatever they like because some lives just don't matter to anyone.

Except the fetus is not a fully developed human being with a developed brain that can answer the question.

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

How many nine month old fetuses do you see being aborted, unless it is necessary for the health of the mother? "Good grief"!

This is like the tranny in the bathroom argument. They practically don’t exist except for extreme reasons.

I saw a documentary on 3 couples getting late term abortions. I agreed with all of them.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my dad about morality and having a spouse with Alzheimer’s. Every rational person agrees the guy should be dating while he takes care of his dieing wife. She doesn’t understand the other woman is his girlfriend in fact she doesn’t even know who her husband is. So is that breaking your marriage vows? Hell no. And killing a mongaloid is not murder. Neither is aborting a seed.

Yea, the Tranny bathroom thing is especially disgusting. No one ever heard of a problem about that, until someone in N.C. invented a problem, and to this day, I have yet to see guards posted up in public bathrooms. Isn't that strange? Guess it wasn't really a problem after all. You know, the Right and their absolutely stupid arguments would be funny, except for the fact that these nuts vote.

 

[sealybobo]

That cliched leftist meme is such tiresome bullshit! Unfortunately there is another life to be heard from that can't speak for him/herself. People will stop trying to control women's bodies when women stop treating the life inside them like it's trash or like a slave and they are slave owners who can do whatever they like because some lives just don't matter to anyone.

Except the fetus is not a fully developed human being with a developed brain that can answer the question.

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

How many nine month old fetuses do you see being aborted, unless it is necessary for the health of the mother? "Good grief"!

This is like the tranny in the bathroom argument. They practically don’t exist except for extreme reasons.

I saw a documentary on 3 couples getting late term abortions. I agreed with all of them.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my dad about morality and having a spouse with Alzheimer’s. Every rational person agrees the guy should be dating while he takes care of his dieing wife. She doesn’t understand the other woman is his girlfriend in fact she doesn’t even know who her husband is. So is that breaking your marriage vows? Hell no. And killing a mongaloid is not murder. Neither is aborting a seed.

Yea, the Tranny bathroom thing is especially disgusting. No one ever heard of a problem about that, until someone in N.C. invented a problem, and to this day, I have yet to see guards posted up in public bathrooms. Isn't that strange? Guess it wasn't really a problem after all. You know, the Right and their absolutely stupid arguments would be funny, except for the fact that these nuts vote.

I might agree more with conservatives on this subject if they cared even a little bit about the humans these fetus’ turn into.

Imagine the poor black woman who gets pregnant. Let’s call the seed Tyrone. Do republicans care at all about Tyrone after he’s born?

 

[BWK]

They would have just got another one.

It's a human child, shithead .

It is now that it’s been born. If it was aborted it wouldn’t be.

Except the fetus is not a fully developed human being with a developed brain that can answer the question.

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

How many nine month old fetuses do you see being aborted, unless it is necessary for the health of the mother? "Good grief"!

This is like the tranny in the bathroom argument. They practically don’t exist except for extreme reasons.

I saw a documentary on 3 couples getting late term abortions. I agreed with all of them.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my dad about morality and having a spouse with Alzheimer’s. Every rational person agrees the guy should be dating while he takes care of his dieing wife. She doesn’t understand the other woman is his girlfriend in fact she doesn’t even know who her husband is. So is that breaking your marriage vows? Hell no. And killing a mongaloid is not murder. Neither is aborting a seed.

Yea, the Tranny bathroom thing is especially disgusting. No one ever heard of a problem about that, until someone in N.C. invented a problem, and to this day, I have yet to see guards posted up in public bathrooms. Isn't that strange? Guess it wasn't really a problem after all. You know, the Right and their absolutely stupid arguments would be funny, except for the fact that these nuts vote.

I might agree more with conservatives on this subject if they cared even a little bit about the humans these fetus’ turn into.

Imagine the poor black woman who gets pregnant. Let’s call the seed Tyrone. Do republicans care at all about Tyrone after he’s born?

Hell no! They could give two shits about the woman or the child. It's all relative with these folks.

This whole abortion conversation is disgusting, because it's all based on a political narrative at the expense of the mother and her own body, and like you said, even worse if the mother is black or brown.

And what if all of a sudden Trump said it was okay to kill the gays? These pro-life folks wouldn't think twice about taking them out.

 

[sealybobo]

It is now that it’s been born. If it was aborted it wouldn’t be.

This barely deserves the dignity of a reply. You sound like an old racist slaveholder who treats his slaves like animals he can kill or beat as he wishes because he doesn't have to see them as human beings. It doesn't profit him to do so.

We need something like the Fourteenth Amendment to give rights to human beings in vitro so amoral pricks like you
can't deny their humanity.

Do you want every American to be taken care of if they get cancer even if they don’t have insurance or if it’s a pre existing condition?

How can you be so cavaliers about life?

Agree to healthcare for all I’ll agree abortion isn’t necessary except for the health of the mother.

But that means we pay Medicaid and social security to the parents and child for the rest of the child’s life. I’d agree then.

But you won’t agree mr cavalear

 

[sealybobo]

They would have just got another one.

It's a human child, shithead .

It is now that it’s been born. If it was aborted it wouldn’t be.

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

How many nine month old fetuses do you see being aborted, unless it is necessary for the health of the mother? "Good grief"!

This is like the tranny in the bathroom argument. They practically don’t exist except for extreme reasons.

I saw a documentary on 3 couples getting late term abortions. I agreed with all of them.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my dad about morality and having a spouse with Alzheimer’s. Every rational person agrees the guy should be dating while he takes care of his dieing wife. She doesn’t understand the other woman is his girlfriend in fact she doesn’t even know who her husband is. So is that breaking your marriage vows? Hell no. And killing a mongaloid is not murder. Neither is aborting a seed.

Yea, the Tranny bathroom thing is especially disgusting. No one ever heard of a problem about that, until someone in N.C. invented a problem, and to this day, I have yet to see guards posted up in public bathrooms. Isn't that strange? Guess it wasn't really a problem after all. You know, the Right and their absolutely stupid arguments would be funny, except for the fact that these nuts vote.

I might agree more with conservatives on this subject if they cared even a little bit about the humans these fetus’ turn into.

Imagine the poor black woman who gets pregnant. Let’s call the seed Tyrone. Do republicans care at all about Tyrone after he’s born?

Hell no! They could give two shits about the woman or the child. It's all relative with these folks.

It’s taking them a while to respond to my questions

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I might agree more with conservatives on this subject if they cared even a little bit about the humans these fetus’ turn into.

Imagine the poor black woman who gets pregnant. Let’s call the seed Tyrone. Do republicans care at all about Tyrone after he’s born?

That's convenient....I would care about the innocent life in that woman in the Planned Parenthood office but I don't have to because I know all conservatives don't give a crap about that child once born.

That's just gutless rationalizing using your own bigoted imagination as an excuse to give yourself permission not to give a shit about the child who gets his/her life snuffed out in a profit driven abortion mill.
How fuckin' cowardly is that?

 

[sealybobo]

They would have just got another one.

It's a human child, shithead .

It is now that it’s been born. If it was aborted it wouldn’t be.

A nine month old baby couldn't answer it either....going to kill it?

Good grief

How many nine month old fetuses do you see being aborted, unless it is necessary for the health of the mother? "Good grief"!

This is like the tranny in the bathroom argument. They practically don’t exist except for extreme reasons.

I saw a documentary on 3 couples getting late term abortions. I agreed with all of them.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with my dad about morality and having a spouse with Alzheimer’s. Every rational person agrees the guy should be dating while he takes care of his dieing wife. She doesn’t understand the other woman is his girlfriend in fact she doesn’t even know who her husband is. So is that breaking your marriage vows? Hell no. And killing a mongaloid is not murder. Neither is aborting a seed.

Yea, the Tranny bathroom thing is especially disgusting. No one ever heard of a problem about that, until someone in N.C. invented a problem, and to this day, I have yet to see guards posted up in public bathrooms. Isn't that strange? Guess it wasn't really a problem after all. You know, the Right and their absolutely stupid arguments would be funny, except for the fact that these nuts vote.

I might agree more with conservatives on this subject if they cared even a little bit about the humans these fetus’ turn into.

Imagine the poor black woman who gets pregnant. Let’s call the seed Tyrone. Do republicans care at all about Tyrone after he’s born?

Hell no! They could give two shits about the woman or the child. It's all relative with these folks.

This whole abortion conversation is disgusting, because it's all based on a political narrative at the expense of the mother and her own body, and like you said, even worse if the mother is black or brown.

98% of black voters vote democratic. Do they really want Tyrone to grow up and vote democratic?