Trumps Challenge? When our Framers said “people” are we sure they meant alien enemies present without consent?

[WEATHER53]

The people they addressed are people of the USA that they represent and not foreign parties arriving here by breaking law.

 

[kyzr]

So a non-citizen does not have a right to a trial, right to be represented in court, right to remain silent, can be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment? Justice in Conservative America

Ever heard of diplomatic immunity?
Non-citizens do not have the same rights as citizens.

 

[Zincwarrior]

When they titled the Preamble with We The PEOPLE Of The United States of America did they really mean We The People And Alien Enemies Of The United States Of America.
The 2A reads:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Did they really mean…..A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE And Alien Enemies to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Shouldn’t common sense tell us the that “PEOPLE” is synonymous with CITIZENS as used by the Framers in the context of the Constitution?

If PEOPLE and alien enemies are synonymous why can’t alien enemies buy guns and vote?

Dumb shit there was no such thing as illegal aliens then.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That is not accurate. There will be decided in front of the Supreme Court this year.

 

[Foxfyre]

Framers had no reference point availing to them regarding people from other countries being here and arriving by criminal means.

The Framers created a new nation sparsely populated and in which many laws necessary now were not needed then. But it is obvious they did not want undesirables--those unwilling to embrace the values/ideal on which the country was founded--and certainly not criminal types to immigrate here.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Ever heard of diplomatic immunity?
Non-citizens do not have the same rights as citizens.

They do if they are subject to US jurisdiction.

 

[Delldude]

Our founding docs are examined by SCOTUS, not broke loser.

Immigrants, legal or not, are subject to US jurisdiction as are citizens, without exceptions.

Political or legal?

 

[rightwinger]

Ever heard of diplomatic immunity?
Non-citizens do not have the same rights as citizens.

That is an international agreement

 

[WEATHER53]

That is an international agreement

No agreement bestows citizenship on those citizens of other nations

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Weather53, that you don't like aliens having the same rights as you is meaningless.

It does not matter. Until SCOTUS rules differently this year, and I don't think Roberts and Barrett will, everyone subject to US jurisdiction has the same rights.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Dumb shit there was no such thing as illegal aliens then.

And that’s all you need to know Humberto from Tijuana… What do you think our framers intent could have possibly been?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Weather53, that you don't like aliens having the same rights as you is meaningless.

It does not matter. Until SCOTUS rules differently this year, and I don't think Roberts and Barrett will, everyone subject to US jurisdiction has the same rights.

You super libs continue to side step the question… If that were true, why can’t alien enemies vote in our elections and buy guns?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You super libs continue to side step the question… If that were true, why can’t alien enemies vote in our elections and buy guns?

Who side stepped? It does not matter what you think. It matters what the Justices rule.

Look up fallacy of false equivalency.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Who side stepped? It does not matter what you think. It matters what the Justices rule.

Look up fallacy of false equivalency.

Well stop telling us alien enemies have the same rights as American citizens….it’s simply not true…you and Zincwarrior look like alien Humberto’s yourselves when you say that retarded bullshit.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Dumb shit there was no such thing as illegal aliens then.

That is not accurate. There will be decided in front of the Supreme Court this year.

That is an international agreement

When America was American did we live amongst people who hoped our laws would help Mexico’s people fuck Americans?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

When America was American did we live amongst people who hoped our laws would help Mexico’s people fuck Americans?

Your head must be hurting again.