Trump's affect on the US economy

[ElmerMudd]

Your inflation numbers exclude energy and food. This is why avemarcia is the dumbest here. In ave's case, ignorance is a sign of pure stupidity.

Gas and food are never included in government inflation numbers that is a fact

Gas and food more than doubled in price. That is a fact

The inflation rate measures all consumables.
Every country in the world experienced inflation in those years. Biden did not lead those countries. They all dealt with the supply chain issues and costs after COVID. That is way too complex for you to understand.

 

[Robert W]

Let us know how he does. He has a lot of money to make up. The US stock holders have lost 11 trillion dollars of wealth since Trump took office.
The DOW needs to hit 45,000 before people, on average, are making money in the stock market under Trump

Democrats don't give a shit about the Rich. And the Rich primarily own stocks and real estate.

 

[elektra]

The inflation rate measures all consumables.

No it doesn't not.

The Inflation rate always excludes food and energy

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

 

[Robert W]

The inflation rate measures all consumables.
Every country in the world experienced inflation in those years. Biden did not lead those countries. They all dealt with the supply chain issues and costs after COVID. That is way too complex for you to understand.

Trump leads the same nation as Biden did. Biden did next to nothing yet Democrats keep handing him unearned credit. Had Biden been so wonderful, he would not have quit nor would his underling decided to take his place. And she performed terribly.

 

[jc456]

Trump and MAGA said that inflation was Biden's fault. The economy was Biden's fault.
Typical Trump MAGA doing what ver necessary to make Trump look good and opponents look bad. They will do anything, lie, cheat, steal.
Morality is not allowed in MAGA.

All true

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

 

[AveMarica]

Your inflation numbers exclude energy and food. This is why avemarcia is the dumbest here. In ave's case, ignorance is a sign of pure stupidity

It is CPI dumbass, which includes both food and energy.

Conveniently enough, Elektra the chronic liar's latest untruth is addressed directly on the BLS web page:

From Common Misconceptions about the Consumer Price Index: Questions and Answers

"Has the BLS removed food or energy prices in its official measure of inflation? No. The BLS publishes thousands of CPI indexes each month, including the headline All Items CPI for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) and the CPI-U for All Items Less Food and Energy. The latter series, widely referred to as the "core" CPI, is closely watched by many economic analysts and policymakers under the belief that food and energy prices are volatile and are subject to price shocks that cannot be damped through monetary policy. However, all consumer goods and services, including food and energy, are represented in the headline CPI. Most importantly, none of the prominent legislated uses of the CPI excludes food and energy. Social security and federal retirement benefits are updated each year for inflation by the All Items CPI for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W). Individual income tax parameters and Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS) returns are based on the All Items CPI-U."

I'd congratulate you for learning something but given my interactions with you you might have known that anyway and just been lying as usual.

Gas and food are never included in government inflation numbers that is a fact

Speaking of humiliation, see above. You typing in something that is easily disproven, just as always.

We'll call that an Elektra-fact (tm), so people know automatically that it in fact a complete lie. The evidence being Elektra the pathological liar typed in.

In fact we're going to have to start up the Elektra lie-tracker, a nice convenient list to reference going forward. I can just attach it at the end of every reply to you.

 

[elektra]

It is CPI dumbass, which includes both food and energy.

You posted the inflation rate. We have been talking about the inflation rate. Now that I have pointed out you are wrong ave goes to Google, finds out I am right, and deflects to the consumer price index.

Ave, you are a liar humiliating your entire democrat party

 

[AveMarica]

You posted the inflation rate. We have been talking about the inflation rate. Now that I have pointed out you are wrong ave goes to Google, finds out I am right, and deflects to the consumer price index.

Hah nice try, but you fail again. Here was my post:

Here was my source:

Consumer Price Index Data from 1913 to 2025

The Consumer Price Index (CPI-U) is provided by the U.S. Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistic and is used to measure inflation. The CPI is calculated and released monthly and powers this site's always-current Inflation Calculator, among other things. The government agency last updated...

www.usinflationcalculator.com

Here is the headline from my source:

Can you read? Inflation is measured by CPI. The exact numbers I got from that source:

Inflation is measured by CPI, dumbass. You're even more of a lightweight than I imagined. It doesn't matter though because you said no government inflation measure included food and energy, and now that you've been caught in your latest lie you're spinning it as CPI isn't a measure of inflation. Precious.

 

[elektra]

Hah nice try, but you fail again. Here was my post:

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Here was my source:

Consumer Price Index Data from 1913 to 2025

The Consumer Price Index (CPI-U) is provided by the U.S. Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistic and is used to measure inflation. The CPI is calculated and released monthly and powers this site's always-current Inflation Calculator, among other things. The government agency last updated...

www.usinflationcalculator.com

Here is the headline from my source:

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Can you read? Inflation is measured by CPI. The exact numbers I got from that source:

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Inflation is measured by CPI, dumbass. You're even more of a lightweight than I imagined. It doesn't matter though because you said no government inflation measure included food and energy, and now that you've been caught in your latest lie you're spinning it as CPI isn't a measure of inflation. Precious.

Like I said, you said inflation now you are talking about the consumer price index.

Such a low intelligent fuck up.

 

[AveMarica]

Like I said, you said inflation now you are talking about the consumer price index.

Such a low intelligent fuck up.

Hah hah I love it. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you... Elektra.

Does it get any better than the above nitwit post?

How does the government measure inflation?

The Hutchins Center explains how inflation measures work.

www.brookings.edu

"What is the Consumer Price Index? The Consumer Price Index (CPI), produced by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), is the most widely used measure of inflation. The primary CPI (CPI-U) is designed to measure price changes faced by urban consumers, who represent 93% of the U.S. population"

 

[elektra]

Hah hah I love it. Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you... Elektra.

Does it get any better than the above nitwit post?

How does the government measure inflation?

The Hutchins Center explains how inflation measures work.

www.brookings.edu

"What is the Consumer Price Index? The Consumer Price Index (CPI), produced by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), is the most widely used measure of inflation. The primary CPI (CPI-U) is designed to measure price changes faced by urban consumers, who represent 93% of the U.S. population"

You only spoke of the inflation rate, not the consumer price index. Ave claimed the inflation rate included energy and food, it does not.

When Google pointed out the mistake ave posts as if he/she was talking about the consumer price index not the inflation rate when we can see ave only stated inflation rate.

Now that I corrected ave, ave pretends he/she new the difference.

You must be humiliated ave, making such a low intelligence mistake

 

[AveMarica]

You only spoke of the inflation rate, not the consumer price index. Ave claimed the inflation rate included energy and food, it does not.

The inflation rate is measured by the Consumer Price Index.

When Google pointed out the mistake ave posts as if he/she was talking about the consumer price index not the inflation rate when we can see ave only stated inflation rate.

Now that I corrected ave, ave pretends he/she new the difference.

You must be humiliated ave, making such a low intelligence mistake

To summarize our interaction:

1. I post inflation numbers under Biden.
2. Elektra claims my inflation numbers don't include food & gas.
3. WRONG. I prove that CPI does indeed include food & gas.
4. Elektra claims no government measure of inflation includes food & gas.
5. WRONG, I prove various measures of inflation used by the government include food & gas.
6. Elektra claims CPI isn't inflation.
7. WRONG, I prove I prove that CPI is the mostly commonly used measure of inflation.
8. Now as we see above we're at the once again humiliated Elektra trying to split hairs implying inflation is different from CPI.

Meanwhile from US Govt:

Consumer Price Index: ​

The Consumer Price Index (CPI) is a measure of the average change over time in the prices paid by urban consumers for a representative basket of consumer goods and services. The CPI measures inflation as experienced by consumers in their day-to-day living expenses. Indexes are available for the United States and various geographic areas. Average price data for select utility, automotive fuel, and food items are also available. CPI indexes are used to adjust income eligibility levels for government assistance, federal tax brackets, federally mandated cost-of-living increases, private sector wage and salary increases, poverty measures, and consumer and commercial rent escalations. Consequently, the CPI directly affects hundreds of millions of Americans.

This has been the equivalent of me dragging elektra behind a pickup truck tied to a rope by their feet.

 

[Robert W]

No it doesn't not.

The Inflation rate always excludes food and energy

And much more than that is excluded.

AI Overview
Learn more

Inflation numbers, specifically the Consumer Price Index (CPI), don't include investment items, savings, or spending by foreign visitors, and some measures exclude volatile items like food and energy prices to focus on underlying trends.

Here's a more detailed breakdown of what's excluded:

• Investment Items:
  The CPI focuses on day-to-day consumption expenses, so it doesn't include things like stocks, bonds, real estate, or life insurance, which are considered investments or savings.
  
  
• Spending by Foreign Visitors:
  The CPI tracks spending by urban households, so it doesn't typically include spending by tourists or other foreign visitors.
  
  
• • Volatile Items (Core Inflation):
    To get a clearer picture of underlying price trends, core inflation measures exclude volatile items like food and energy prices.
    
  • Qualitative Changes:
    The CPI primarily tracks changes in the price of goods and services of a constant quality. It doesn't fully account for changes in quality or the introduction of new goods and services.
    
  • Producer Price Index (PPI) vs. CPI:
    The PPI focuses on prices at the producer level, so it doesn't include imports, sales taxes, or rent, unlike the CPI.
    
  • Government and Nonprofit Sector:
    The CPI only includes items that people pay out-of-pocket for, so it doesn't include goods and services provided by the government or nonprofit sector.

 

[AveMarica]

CPI-U is the most commonly used measure of inflation. When you see news reports about inflation, they are using CPI-U. There are some other variants that have minor differences that are used for policy decisions like CPI-W and chained CPI-U, but those also include food and gas.

It wouldn't make sense to include savings, investments, or foreign spending in CPI since the whole point of it is to track spending by American consumers. A foreign tourist isn't an American consumer, and putting money into savings isn't spending.

Elektra has now learned that the numbers I posted for inflation (CPI) do in fact include food and gas, but they have painted themselves into a corner trying to avoid admitting being wrong so now must forever maintain their idiotic position that no government measures of inflation include food and gas, and by extension the equally idiotic belief that CPI is not a government measure of inflation.

 

[elektra]

CPI-U is the most commonly used measure of inflation. When you see news reports about inflation, they are using CPI-U. There are some other variants that have minor differences that are used for policy decisions like CPI-W and chained CPI-U, but those also include food and gas.

It wouldn't make sense to include savings, investments, or foreign spending in CPI since the whole point of it is to track spending by American consumers. A foreign tourist isn't an American consumer, and putting money into savings isn't spending.

Elektra has now learned that the numbers I posted for inflation (CPI) do in fact include food and gas, but they have painted themselves into a corner trying to avoid admitting being wrong so now must forever maintain their idiotic position that no government measures of inflation include food and gas, and by extension the equally idiotic belief that CPI is not a government measure of inflation.

Now that you showed you got your Google education you can go out in the real world and learn the truth (which don't refuse to admit.)
Prices doubled under democrats/Biden. That is a fact.

 

[AveMarica]

Now that you showed you got your Google education you can go out in the real world and learn the truth (which don't refuse to admit.)
Prices doubled under democrats/Biden. That is a fact.

To be clear, you believe CPI is not a government measure of inflation. That is how uneducated you are, right?

Meanwhile, inflation under Biden is the column to the right. No amount of lying can change it:

 

[Marener]

Now that you showed you got your Google education you can go out in the real world and learn the truth (which don't refuse to admit.)
Prices doubled under democrats/Biden. That is a fact.

You’re a moron. It’s a fact. You’ve been proven in this thread you don’t really know what you’re talking about.