Trump's 4% GDP growth promise update

[AntonToo]

May as well post the most recent update on that "4, 5 or even 6%!" GDP growth promises.

2017 GDP growth was 2.8% - inherited growth WITHOUT tax-cuts or any other significant policy change in effect.

2018 GDP growth has now been revised down to 2.5%, with just 1% growth in Q4 instead of 2%. 2015 is still the strongest GDP growth growth year in a decade at 2.9%.

2019 GDP growth for the first half a year is pegged at 2.6%.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If he used the word "hyperbole" then he is not lying, because he does not expect to be taken literally.

He never uses the word hyperbole when he lies, only when he gets caught lying. He expects his "hyperbole" to be believed enough to close the "deal."

You are the one that quoted him, from his book, saying that he uses hyperbole.


Of course when one is exaggerating, one does not use the word exaggerate.


That was such a weak attack, that I find it hard to credit that you seriously believe what you just posted.

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

The most ironic part is that people like Corell are telling is that when the president uses the words “believe me”, we are to assume what he is saying is false.

 

[Faun]

May as well post the most recent update on that "4, 5 or even 6%!" GDP growth promises.

2017 GDP growth was 2.8% - inherited growth WITHOUT tax-cuts or any other significant policy change.

2018 GDP growth has now been revised down to 2.5%, with just 1% growth in Q4 instead of 2%, 2015 is still the strongest GDP growth growth year in a decade at 2.9%.

2019 GDP growth for the first half a year is pegged at 2.6%.

Trump is the only president to not have a quarter of real GDP growth above 3.5%.

 

[Papageorgio]

4% is a big number for such a large economy. The fact he hit 3% is an achievement.

It's much easier to achieve if you cut down your expenses, which neither party seems willing to do.

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

We need to follow Canada, right? 2% growth in 2018 and 2019 and expecting less than 2% in 2020. Average wage in the United States is about $55000, Canada is $40,000
Canada taxes are about 28% more.
The United States has over a 15% stock market increase, Canada is barely over 14%.
Canada's unemployment rate is 5.5% ours is 3.7%.
The Canadian Dollar is worth 31% than the US dollar.

Let me know when you get Canada fixed before you preach to us about our country, so far the only thing that impresses me about Canada is your arrogance.

 

[AntonToo]

4% is a big number for such a large economy. The fact he hit 3% is an achievement.

It's much easier to achieve if you cut down your expenses, which neither party seems willing to do.

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

We need to follow Canada

WTF? Where did anyone say anything about Canada?

And it's not as if ~2.5% is so much more impressive than 2%.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

May as well post the most recent update on that "4, 5 or even 6%!" GDP growth promises.

2017 GDP growth was 2.8% - inherited growth WITHOUT tax-cuts or any other significant policy change in effect.

2018 GDP growth has now been revised down to 2.5%, with just 1% growth in Q4 instead of 2%. 2015 is still the strongest GDP growth growth year in a decade at 2.9%.

2019 GDP growth for the first half a year is pegged at 2.6%.

The “4 or 5” was just hyperbole just like MAGA is just hyperbole.

When Trump says he will get is better trade deals, that is just hyperbole.

When Trump gives his golf score, that is just hyperbole.

 

[AntonToo]

May as well post the most recent update on that "4, 5 or even 6%!" GDP growth promises.

2017 GDP growth was 2.8% - inherited growth WITHOUT tax-cuts or any other significant policy change in effect.

2018 GDP growth has now been revised down to 2.5%, with just 1% growth in Q4 instead of 2%. 2015 is still the strongest GDP growth growth year in a decade at 2.9%.

2019 GDP growth for the first half a year is pegged at 2.6%.

The “4 or 5” was just hyperbole just like MAGA is just hyperbole.

When Trump says he will get is better trade deals, that is just hyperbole.

When Trump gives his golf score, that is just hyperbole.

It wasn't hyperbole, it was salesman bullshit based on nothing but political need.

In 2020 election, where Trump will get bashed over the head with these facts on daily basis, is going to be real fun.

This time around he is not going to be able to play the mysterious bussinesman card with alot of lofty promises, but will have an actual record to check his bullshit.

 

[Papageorgio]

4% is a big number for such a large economy. The fact he hit 3% is an achievement.

It's much easier to achieve if you cut down your expenses, which neither party seems willing to do.

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

We need to follow Canada

WTF? Where did anyone say anything about Canada?

And it's not as if ~2.5% is so much more impressive than 2%.

Dragon is from Canada, she is always ripping the US, she need to fix Canada and their issues and not be concerned with other countries. She complains about Russia's interference and I agree with her, however Canada or any other country needs to butt out.

 

[AntonToo]

4% is a big number for such a large economy. The fact he hit 3% is an achievement.

It's much easier to achieve if you cut down your expenses, which neither party seems willing to do.

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

We need to follow Canada

WTF? Where did anyone say anything about Canada?

And it's not as if ~2.5% is so much more impressive than 2%.

Dragon is from Canada, she is always ripping the US, she need to fix Canada and their issues and not be concerned with other countries. She complains about Russia's interference and I agree with her, however Canada or any other country needs to butt out.

I doubt she can fix Canada or any other country, that itself does not diqualify her comments about America.

 

[Faun]

May as well post the most recent update on that "4, 5 or even 6%!" GDP growth promises.

2017 GDP growth was 2.8% - inherited growth WITHOUT tax-cuts or any other significant policy change in effect.

2018 GDP growth has now been revised down to 2.5%, with just 1% growth in Q4 instead of 2%. 2015 is still the strongest GDP growth growth year in a decade at 2.9%.

2019 GDP growth for the first half a year is pegged at 2.6%.

The “4 or 5” was just hyperbole just like MAGA is just hyperbole.

When Trump says he will get is better trade deals, that is just hyperbole.

When Trump gives his golf score, that is just hyperbole.

It wasn't hyperbole, it was salesman bullshit based on nothing but political need.

In 2020 election, where Trump will get bashed over the head with these facts on daily basis, is going to be real fun.

This time around he is not going to be able to play the mysterious bussinesman card with alot of lofty promises, but will have an actual record to check his bullshit.

Which is what trump is to his core -- he's a bullshit artist.

 

[Papageorgio]

4% is a big number for such a large economy. The fact he hit 3% is an achievement.

It's much easier to achieve if you cut down your expenses, which neither party seems willing to do.

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

We need to follow Canada

WTF? Where did anyone say anything about Canada?

And it's not as if ~2.5% is so much more impressive than 2%.

Dragon is from Canada, she is always ripping the US, she need to fix Canada and their issues and not be concerned with other countries. She complains about Russia's interference and I agree with her, however Canada or any other country needs to butt out.

I doubt she can fix Canada or any other country, that itself does not diqualify her comments about America.

That is your opinion, I disagree and that disqualifies her comments.

 

[edward37]

He was just kidding.

He likes to kid

He's a kidder.

He kids.

He was just kidding.
.

Are you displeased with the economy?

IF it was doing as great as trump says it is WHY lower rates ? What pitfalls lie ahead ?
BTW I'm doing great BUT how many middle class folks are heavy into the markets? The rich get richer and the middle class have babies, strike a bell with you?

So, to be clear, that is a thumbs up on the economy? You know, the question I asked?

The stock market is doing well All the rest is pie in the sky and btw does the AH in the WH think Powell works for him like he thought Comey should?

 

[edward37]

May as well post the most recent update on that "4, 5 or even 6%!" GDP growth promises.

2017 GDP growth was 2.8% - inherited growth WITHOUT tax-cuts or any other significant policy change in effect.

2018 GDP growth has now been revised down to 2.5%, with just 1% growth in Q4 instead of 2%. 2015 is still the strongest GDP growth growth year in a decade at 2.9%.

2019 GDP growth for the first half a year is pegged at 2.6%.

The “4 or 5” was just hyperbole just like MAGA is just hyperbole.

When Trump says he will get is better trade deals, that is just hyperbole.

When Trump gives his golf score, that is just hyperbole.

It wasn't hyperbole, it was salesman bullshit based on nothing but political need.

In 2020 election, where Trump will get bashed over the head with these facts on daily basis, is going to be real fun.

This time around he is not going to be able to play the mysterious bussinesman card with alot of lofty promises, but will have an actual record to check his bullshit.

Which is what trump is to his core -- he's a bullshit artist.

And what's funny is when he dishes it out to his followers they ask for another serving

 

[Dragonlady]

He never uses the word hyperbole when he lies, only when he gets caught lying. He expects his "hyperbole" to be believed enough to close the "deal."

You are the one that quoted him, from his book, saying that he uses hyperbole.


Of course when one is exaggerating, one does not use the word exaggerate.


That was such a weak attack, that I find it hard to credit that you seriously believe what you just posted.

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

The most ironic part is that people like Corell are telling is that when the president uses the words “believe me”, we are to assume what he is saying is false.

I noticed in 2016 that Trump ONLY says “Believe me” when he’s telling a whopper.

Since then, there was a piece I read written by a psychologist who said that the phrase “Believe me!” is the “liar’s tell”. Honest people have no reason to reinforce the veracity of their statements, and they don’t expect anyone to question the truth of their assertions. Liars have to sell their lies.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You are the one that quoted him, from his book, saying that he uses hyperbole.


Of course when one is exaggerating, one does not use the word exaggerate.


That was such a weak attack, that I find it hard to credit that you seriously believe what you just posted.

Right and I also pointed out that it was his strategy to close the deal, so it was meant to be believed the way Tramp uses it as he explains in his book.

That it was to be used to close the deal, does not imply that it was meant to be believed, especially if you quoted him correctly and he used the word "hyperbole".

Of course his lies are meant to be believed, he is using then t sell his deal. His calling them "creative hyperbole" is just a rationalization of his lies for SUCKERS like you.

The most ironic part is that people like Corell are telling is that when the president uses the words “believe me”, we are to assume what he is saying is false.

I noticed in 2016 that Trump ONLY says “Believe me” when he’s telling a whopper.

Since then, there was a piece I read written by a psychologist who said that the phrase “Believe me!” is the “liar’s tell”. Honest people have no reason to reinforce the veracity of their statements, and they don’t expect anyone to question the truth of their assertions. Liars have to sell their lies.

Makes sense

 

[danielpalos]

...the right wing loves to Imply they are for the "gospel Truth" on any given issue.

 

[edward37]

...the right wing loves to Imply they are for the "gospel Truth" on any given issue.

Those GD sinners should never use the word gospel ,,,That's almost like Trump saying "believe me""

 

[Papageorgio]

...the right wing loves to Imply they are for the "gospel Truth" on any given issue.

So they are no different than you when you try to sell your pile of crap.

 

[edward37]

...the right wing loves to Imply they are for the "gospel Truth" on any given issue.

So they are no different than you when you try to sell your pile of crap.

Maybe some on the left do BUT they don't do it in Gods name

 

[edward37]

Now the DOW that was up 300+ is off 47 now because economic moron gave China an additional 10% tariff to start Sept 1 This is the nitwit that thinks the fed must kiss his butt