Trump wills and wonts

[Concerned American]

Again this is the way of the bigot, the colonizer.

Where was it you said you came from, COLONIZER?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You haven't got a clue about me OR American society. You left a country somewhere because you were displeased and you came to one of the most successful countries in the world because of the opportunities that were available here. Then you figure you'll attempt to change it into the country that you're escaping. SMH. Racism and bigotry or xenophobia have nothing to do with it. I love my country the way it is with all of its foibles. You on the other hand, seem to be perpetually dissatisfied, hence the comment. No, I think you are the racist with a chip on your shoulder, believing someone owes you something. Wrong.

As I said, I pay my taxes and I have the same rights as you.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

They've reaped what they've sown. Had Hamas stayed home on Oct 7, none of this would have ever happened.

Babies have reaped what they've sown, OK that says it all, thank you.

 

[Concerned American]

As I said, I pay my taxes and I have the same rights as you.

That's right, and people like myself spoke in spades on Tuesday. So as I said earlier, chin up, happy days are here again.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Where was it you said you came from, COLONIZER?

I was born and raised in Liverpool, England. I now reside - legally - in the US and live with my American wife. I came here because I admired many aspects of the US. I was raised on US culture, admired the Apollo space program and studied electronics and computing partly because of the pioneering I saw in the US.

I gained a visa legally, after a huge vetting process that took months which includes multiple background checks with Interpol and other law enforcement agencies. I respected the laws and complied with every single part of it. I am a law abiding citizen who has always treated US laws and customs with great respect.

This goes on day in day out and works in all directions, my wife has worked in Britain, tens of thousands of people come and go every year in and out of the US as part of international commerce, it's normal to have people like me here and has been for centuries.

This is not "colonization" and the sheer idiocy of that remark is astounding even by your standards.

 

[Concerned American]

Babies have reaped what they've sown, OK that says it all, thank you.

So you believe Hamas are babies? That is quite a twist that your tried to put on that pretzel and you've graduated to the pinnacle of idiocy. Run along.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

That's right, and people like myself spoke in spades on Tuesday.

So as I said earlier, chin up, happy days are here again.

Right and anyone disagreeing with you must be attacked and if they're an immigrant they must be sent packing, yes, I heard it all before, try reading the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So you believe Hamas are babies?

Where did I express that belief? can you quote me and show us all?

That is quite a twist that your tried to put on that pretzel and you've graduated to the pinnacle of idiocy. Run along.

So you agree? the civilian victims are no more or less deserving than the victims of Oct 7th?

 

[debbiedowner]

You really are clueless if you think that the person serving you Starbucks or your Big Mac are making 60,000 a year. Maybe in California a few are but many lost their jobs when Newsome upped the minimum wage.
I am probably older than you. I understand that you think the poorer people do not deserve a decent break. I understand beyond a shadow of a doubt that we do not need so many IRS agents. I understand that the money we are spending to give to aliens that cross our border could be reduced. I am well aware that we could stop spending money on the matting habits of the Brazilian tree frog, we could also stop being the world’s police force.
If you are so worried about social security then you need to lobby to get those that make top dollar to pay on every dollar they make instead of only paying on the first 169,000they make. In fact it would not hurt for the government to pay back into the social security fund the money they borrowed and put that into something like government bonds that would help gain interest.
Once again I will remind you that I never said anything about OVER TIME. I think that was just Trump talking and there is no way that he would even try nor would it pass

Don't know what part of the country you are from but I don't tip and know anyone that tips at McDonalds or Starbucks. But I do know several waitresses that make that much year. Nice restaurants anywhere in U.S. their waiters and waitresses make pretty damn good money that includes tips and Florida in some of the tourists area's it's not uncommon for one to make 6 figures.

I have a 22 year old granddaughter who has a degree in criminal justice and works as a waitress in a so so restaurant here in Florida made $75,000 last year her fiancee made a little less and they just bought quite an expensive house. Her degree I hope means something one day but no one around here in an attorney's office or police pay that much.

Let me add to that in the areas they don't make as above. If a tipped person does not pay taxes and their regular pay is around $13,000 but also makes tips they do not have to claim on taxes and they try to sign up for obamacare in a state who does not have a state exchange they will not receive a dime from the govt to help pay their premiums, therefore remaining uninsured. Don't even bring up group because most restaurants do not offer group health to hourly employee's.

 

[Concerned American]

Right and anyone disagreeing with you must be attacked

Again, you leftists have been on the attack for eight solid years and now you whine when the population says "enough of the madness."

and if they're an immigrant they must be sent packing,

Most of the US is immigrants and your pretzel logic doesn't fly. If you are displeased with the culture of the US, you are more than welcome to leave. That is a far cry from forcing you to leave. You are the one who is displeased with MY country. LOL, I and the majority of the US like our culture. The problem seems to be with you.

 

[Concerned American]

Where did I express that belief? can you quote me and show us all?

Your post #183 with your feeble attempt to twist my words to your meaning.

the civilian victims are no more or less deserving than the victims of Oct 7th?

Brings to mind an old cliche about "not putting something in your hand that you don't want shoved up your nose." Hamas should not have engaged in an act of war and not expected retaliation. Gaza was deeded to the Palestinians with all of the opportunities that if they had been directed at peace and prosperity, Gaza would be a paradise on the level of Dubai. Instead they directed their $$$ and efforts exclusively to war. The blame lies squarely at the feet of Hamas, no one else.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Again, you leftists have been on the attack for eight solid years and now you whine when the population says "enough of the madness."

Did Trump win the 2020 election? when grown adults repeatedly insist that the answer is "yes" I attack, it's that simple, I attack idiocy and I don't give a fuck who I'm talking too, an idiot will be called out.

If you tell me the earth is flat I say fuck off.
If you tell me the moon is made of cheese I say fuck off.
If you tell me Trump won the 2020 election I say fuck off.

See the pattern there?

Most of the US is immigrants and your pretzel logic doesn't fly. If you are displeased with the culture of the US, you are more than welcome to leave.

If I'm displeased with something then I challenge it, resist it same as you, the fact that I'm an immigrant doesn't mean I have to act any differently to you.

That is a far cry from forcing you to leave. You are the one who is displeased with MY country.

It's my country too and I'll speak as freely as anyone else, I have rights and if you don't like that fact then so what?

LOL, I and the majority of the US like our culture. The problem seems to be with you.

Where did I express a dislike of US culture? If you think extremist right wing nationalism characterizes US culture then you are actually unamerican.

I was raised on old fashioned values, honesty, decency, fairness, tolerance and compassion for people less well off. Those values exist in the UK and the US but Trump undermines and ridicules and seeks to destroy those values and you not only approve but support and encourage it, you're no American, you're a racist fake just like Trumpty Dumpty, it's people like you who should be deported.

Maybe Texas will secede and all the extremist right wing filth can settle there and leave the rest of us alone.

Don't go around lying all the time if you don't want to be pulled over for it, fuckin dunce.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Your post #183 with your feeble attempt to twist my words to your meaning.

Brings to mind an old cliche about "not putting something in your hand that you don't want shoved up your nose." Hamas should not have engaged in an act of war and not expected retaliation. Gaza was deeded to the Palestinians with all of the opportunities that if they had been directed at peace and prosperity, Gaza would be a paradise on the level of Dubai. Instead they directed their $$$ and efforts exclusively to war. The blame lies squarely at the feet of Hamas, no one else.

Well this isn't the thread for Gaza so lets drop it here.

 

[Concerned American]

Those values exist in the UK and the US but Trump undermines and ridicules and seeks to destroy those values.

NONSENSE. Those values are at the top of Trumps list. Let's add to those opportunity, equality, and responsibility. Heavy on the responsibility. Those go hand in hand with the ones you listed. Those are the values that you conveniently leave out of your list. There is no free lunch.

 

[Concerned American]

Did Trump win the 2020 election? when grown adults repeatedly insist that the answer is "yes" I attack, it's that simple, I attack idiocy and I don't give a fuck who I'm talking too, an idiot will be called out.

If you tell me the earth is flat I say fuck off.
If you tell me the moon is made of cheese I say fuck off.
If you tell me Trump won the 2020 election I say fuck off.

Triggered. You've lost it. Not that anything you've posted has made an ounce of sense. Run along.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

NONSENSE. Those values are at the top of Trumps list.

There's a saying, don't piss down my neck and tell me its raining.

Let's add to those opportunity, equality, and responsibility. Heavy on the responsibility.

I never said it was an exhaustive list, Trump never accepts responsibility he blames others, never admits error or apologizes, basically he's untrustworthy and that's why he never has and never will serve on any other company's board as a non-executive director, he's toxic and no mature intelligent adult is fooled by him like you and so many other dingbats are.

Those go hand in hand with the ones you listed. Those are the values that you conveniently leave out of your list. There is no free lunch.

As I said it wasn't an exhaustive list but captures the essence of why Trump is a disgusting person.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Triggered. You've lost it. Not that anything you've posted has made an ounce of sense. Run along.

Sounds like your conflicted with what I said, so tell me who won the 2020 election? Perhaps you're one of the insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol because you were so upset at him losing. Notice how the Democrats are not throwing hissy fits, claiming election fraud and so on?

There's truly something unhinged about people who vote for a man who lies through his teeth all the time.

 

[Concerned American]

As I said it wasn't an exhaustive list but captures the essence of why Trump is a disgusting person.

Every one of those politicians in DC is disgusting. I don't like their personalities and I don't care to sit down to a game of cards with them on Friday night. That isn't what they are there for. I want to see some one there that is effective and works for the benefit of the US without regard to superficial, "feel good" garbage. Enjoy the next four years. End of discussion.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Every one of those politicians in DC is disgusting.

Really, so you know each of them?

I don't like their personalities and I don't care to sit down to a game of cards with them on Friday night. That isn't what they are there for. I want to see some one there that is effective and works for the benefit of the US without regard to superficial, "feel good" garbage. Enjoy the next four years. End of discussion.

Your a weak man, only a weak man would admire an arrogant bastard like Trump.

Enjoy your porn movies

End of discussion.

 

[meaner gene]

You dont see why he would care? Seriously? There are plenty of reasons for him to care, but lets just go with his ego, which we can all agree is a very strong motivating factor for him. He will be beloved if he deports millions of illegals, and hated by all if he doesnt.

/debate

To deport all the illegals, Trump would need to fly over 22 flights of Boeing 777's every day for 4 years straight to deport all of them.