Trump vows to turn tables on Biden crime family

[mamooth]

Wrong.
I am anti-Trump and have never even voted Republican in my life, but the 2 impeachments were totally illegal weaponization of the justice system. It is Biden who extorted the Ukraine, not Trump.

So you expect to be taken seriously after saying something that absurd and reality-defying?

You babble delusional Trump cult propaganda, so you should expect to be defined as a Trump cultist.

 

[Rigby5]

and?

Hunter was like many Americans, a drug addict doing business and lying, cheating...whatever.

Not Joe Biden

the end

Wrong.
Biden was obviously party to the illegal bribes behind the Maidan military coup.
Hunter has nothing to sell anyone, and obviously was just the bagman carrying the illegal bribes to the Ukraine, and pocketing a portion.
It had to be Joe because he had to know about the illegal coup, bribes, and kickbacks, when he made his famous speech illegally demanding that a civil servant be fired without cause.

 

[Rigby5]

So you expect to be taken seriously after saying something that absurd and reality-defying?

You babble delusional Trump cult propaganda, so you should expect to be defined as a Trump cultist.

What in particular do you want me to expand upon and support?
Is there a particular bogus charge you want me to focus on, or should we go back over the illegal impeachments?

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

I do know that karma always visits those who try to hurt President Trump.

 

[mamooth]

What in particular do you want me to expand upon and support?
Is there a particular bogus charge you want me to focus on, or should we go back over the illegal impeachments?

Start by telling us how they were "illegal". Be specific.

This should be _hilarious_.

 

[Rigby5]

Joe Biden was in business with Hunter and Archer?
You have no proof of that. Show us in Joe's tax returns.
It should be easy.

Its the other way around.
It is Joe Biden who made the contacts with the ethnic Polish military in Kyiv, and it was Joe who arranged the bribes and kickbacks.
Hunter and Archer were just hired by Joe to deliver the good back and forth.

It is easy to not show bribed and kickbacks on your taxes.
But here are examples of illegal Biden grift:
{...
The tally of foreign money to the Biden family has hit at least $20 million, based on the third round of bank records the House Oversight and Accountability Committee released Wednesday–pointing to millions from oligarchs from Russia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.

Foreign sources sent the money to Biden family members and business associates while Joe Biden was vice president during the Barack Obama administration.

In February 2014 Russian billionaire Yelena Baturina transferred $3.5 million to Rosemont Seneca Thornton, a shell company owned by Hunter Biden and his partner Devon Archer. About $1 million was transferred to Archer, and the remainder was used to initially fund a new company account, Rosemont Seneca Bohai.

In July, Archer testified to the House committee that while Biden was vice president, he showed up for a dinner with Hunter Biden’s business associates that included Baturina.

“During Joe Biden’s vice presidency, Hunter Biden sold him as ‘the brand’ to reap millions from oligarchs in Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine,” House Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., said in a public statement about the new bank records. “It appears no real services were provided other than access to the Biden network, including Joe Biden himself.”
...}

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Wrong.
Biden was obviously party to the illegal bribes behind the Maidan military coup.
Hunter has nothing to sell anyone, and obviously was just the bagman carrying the illegal bribes to the Ukraine, and pocketing a portion.
It had to be Joe because he had to know about the illegal coup, bribes, and kickbacks, when he made his famous speech illegally demanding that a civil servant be fired without cause.

Or, are you saying Trump's issues a fake, and he wants to use face charges against Biden?

Who's side are you on? really

 

[Rigby5]

Impeachment has nothing to do with the justice system.

Impeachment is a political process.

So your bullshit about weaponization of the justice system? You can't be believed here.

Wrong.
Impeachment is the first step in charging a politician who has executive immunity, with a crime.
The only problem is the impeachments failed to produce a conviction, so were unjustified.
Impeachment is NOT at all a "political process".
The only time a "political process" is involved is when the public votes.
Impeachment is and always has been part of the criminal justice system.
The fact the House first indicts and then the Senate conducts the actual trial, does not matter.
Almost all the members of Congress are lawyers.

 

[StoneCold]

Its the other way around.
It is Joe Biden who made the contacts with the ethnic Polish military in Kyiv, and it was Joe who arranged the bribes and kickbacks.
Hunter and Archer were just hired by Joe to deliver the good back and forth.

It is easy to not show bribed and kickbacks on your taxes.
But here are examples of illegal Biden grift:
{...
The tally of foreign money to the Biden family has hit at least $20 million, based on the third round of bank records the House Oversight and Accountability Committee released Wednesday–pointing to millions from oligarchs from Russia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.

Foreign sources sent the money to Biden family members and business associates while Joe Biden was vice president during the Barack Obama administration.

In February 2014 Russian billionaire Yelena Baturina transferred $3.5 million to Rosemont Seneca Thornton, a shell company owned by Hunter Biden and his partner Devon Archer. About $1 million was transferred to Archer, and the remainder was used to initially fund a new company account, Rosemont Seneca Bohai.

In July, Archer testified to the House committee that while Biden was vice president, he showed up for a dinner with Hunter Biden’s business associates that included Baturina.

“During Joe Biden’s vice presidency, Hunter Biden sold him as ‘the brand’ to reap millions from oligarchs in Kazakhstan, Russia, and Ukraine,” House Oversight and Accountability Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., said in a public statement about the new bank records. “It appears no real services were provided other than access to the Biden network, including Joe Biden himself.”
...}

You can throw that shit out until the cows come home, but it is NOT PROOF! Comer, Jordan, Grassley, and Johnson are just flinging shit against the wall and you RWers on the forum gobble it up like a Thanksgiving turkey. You just have allegations. But that makes your blood flow.
Are you going to ride the trumptrain over the cliff?

 

[StoneCold]

Batter Call Durham!

Benghazi!

Has Durham grown his tail back?

 

[Rigby5]

Start by telling us how they were "illegal". Be specific.

This should be _hilarious_.

The first impeachment was illegal because it was Biden who illegally try to extort Kyiv by withholding congressional aid.
Trump only asked for "an investigation", which is not only legal, but required.
It is Biden failing to investigate Burisma Holdings which was illegal.

The second impeachment was illegal because people have a right to express their beliefs that there was election fraud, regardless of whether there was any or not.

The Jean Carroll trial was illegal because it was 30 years late, provided no evidence of any wrong doing, and Jean admitted she offered to model lingerie in private, for Trump.

The NY tax charges are illegal because it is legal for celebrities whose income depends upon popularity, to pay hush money and take it off on their taxes. It is a legitimate expense.
That means Cohen was also railroaded.

The classified doc charges is clearly illegal, since not only are presidents totally exempt from all classified doc law, but they can arbitrarily give all the copies of classified docs they want to anyone, including themselves.

 

[mamooth]

The first impeachment was illegal because it was Biden who illegally try to extort Kyiv by withholding congressional aid.

So you're using a fabricated fantasy as the basis of that crazy claim. Reality? It has no control over you.

The second impeachment was illegal because people have a right to express their beliefs that there was election fraud, regardless of whether there was any or not.

There, you use the "any speech can't be a crime!" big lie. By your warped logic, a mob boss ordering a hit is just engaging in free speech.

The Jean Carroll trial was illegal because it was 30 years late, provided no evidence of any wrong doing, and Jean admitted she offered to model lingerie in private, for Trump.

Your claim there is that the courts are all wrong about the statute of limitations. Funny how Trump's lawyers never brought that up.

The NY tax charges are illegal because it is legal for celebrities whose income depends upon popularity, to pay hush money and take it off on their taxes. It is a legitimate expense.

GIven your keen legal mind, why hasn't the Trump team hired you to be their lawyer?

The classified doc charges is clearly illegal, since not only are presidents totally exempt from all classified doc law, but they can arbitrarily give all the copies of classified docs they want to anyone, including themselves.

Oh, that's right. The stuff you say is so crazy, even Trump's lawyers are too ashamed to say it.

 

[Rigby5]

No one was extorted. It was US policy, not a VP Biden agenda, and Ukrainians as well as many allies all wanted the crooked prosecutor gone.

go read up on a few facts.

Wrong.
The eastern expansion was totally illegal and in violation of half a dozen treaties and promises we made with Gorbachev.
So the whole Maidan coup was totally illegal and could NOT at all then ever be "US policy".
Instead it was the illegal corruption by Obama, Hillary, and Joe Biden.

But of course the US were not the only corrupt criminals.
NATO and the EU both have a long history of corruption, bribes, breaking treaties, starting illegal wars, etc.

The reality is there was never any misconduct or evidence against Shokin, so his firing was criminal.
Read up on what "civil service protection" means.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Wrong.
The eastern expansion was totally illegal and in violation of half a dozen treaties and promises we made with Gorbachev.
So the whole Maidan coup was totally illegal and could NOT at all then ever be "US policy".
Instead it was the illegal corruption by Obama, Hillary, and Joe Biden.

But of course the US were not the only corrupt criminals.
NATO and the EU both have a long history of corruption, bribes, breaking treaties, starting illegal wars, etc.

The reality is there was never any misconduct or evidence against Shokin, so his firing was criminal.
Read up on what "civil service protection" means.

HE was a crook. You support crooks. so?

 

[BlindBoo]

it was Biden who illegally try to extort Kyiv by withholding congressional aid.

Still fundamentally wrong. There was no congressional aid for Biden to threaten with. By law the President has great control over those loan guarantees we were offering the Ukrainians for doing what we wanted them too. Nothing illegal about that.

 

[Rigby5]

Or, are you saying Trump's issues a fake, and he wants to use face charges against Biden?

Who's side are you on? really

I dislike Trump because instead of capitalism and greed, I believe in cooperation and socialism.
However, Trump did not lie, steal, murder, and start wars.
In 2014, Biden (, Obama, and Hillary) did try to steal money from the Ukraine, murdered the 2010 legitimate government of the Ukraine, illegally withheld funds to the Ukraine, violated treaties with Gorbachev, and illegally got Shokin fired.
Then Joe Biden alone illegally armed Kyiv at a cost of $3 trillion, and encouraged a war that is likely to destroy this country completely.
Joe Biden is the worst president in the history of the country.

 

[BluesLegend]

Add Sanders to the list of corrupt Dems - Breaking news, he quietly funneled $200,000 from his campaign's coffers to his wife's nonprofit institute, which appears to do very little work and pays six figures worth of compensation to her son.

 

[Rigby5]

You can throw that shit out until the cows come home, but it is NOT PROOF! Comer, Jordan, Grassley, and Johnson are just flinging shit against the wall and you RWers on the forum gobble it up like a Thanksgiving turkey. You just have allegations. But that makes your blood flow.
Are you going to ride the trumptrain over the cliff?

Wrong.
That is a lie.
We all watched the video of Biden bragging about illegally withholding congressional aid to the Ukraine in order to illegally get Shokin fired so he would not investigate the illegal bribes.
We all watched the contrasting video of Trump who did absolutely nothing wrong by simply asking for an investigation of Burisma Holdings.

That is absolute and incontrovertible proof.
Biden is guilty and Trump innocent.

 

[Rigby5]

So you're using a fabricated fantasy as the basis of that crazy claim. Reality? It has no control over you.


There, you use the "any speech can't be a crime!" big lie. By your warped logic, a mob boss ordering a hit is just engaging in free speech.


Your claim there is that the courts are all wrong about the statute of limitations. Funny how Trump's lawyers never brought that up.


GIven your keen legal mind, why hasn't the Trump team hired you to be their lawyer?


Oh, that's right. The stuff you say is so crazy, even Trump's lawyers are too ashamed to say it.

Since was all watched the 2 videos, it can NOT be a "fabricated fantasy".
It is absolute proof Trump did nothing wrong, and Biden committed over half a dozen criminal acts over the Ukraine.

I NEVER said "any speech can't be a crime".
Obviously almost all crimes are just speech.
Like "give me all your money or I will shoot you".
It is a crime even if they never shoot you.
What I said is that there is no way to read any possible criminal implication into Trump's legitimate request for an investigation of Burisma Holdings.
It is illegal to NOT investigate Burisma Holdings.

The law allowing the Jean Carroll case to proceed was intended for children abused by church elders. It was not intended for adults. The judge and prosecutor both were guilty of violating basic legal principles by allowing an adult to use a loophole intended for young children.

If you think I am mistaken, then give us some explicit reasons?

 

[mamooth]

We all watched the video of Biden bragging about illegally withholding congressional aid to the Ukraine in order to illegally get Shokin fired so he would not investigate the illegal bribes.

No, we didn't. We saw the opposite. Biden got the guy fired because he _wouldn't_ investigate corruption. Biden rightfully bragged about removing corruption, triggering the pro-corruption faction hard.

So, you tried to reverse reality. Who did you think that deception would fool?