Trump: US, Russia Agree to Start Talks on Ending Ukraine War

What are you even talking about?
Did NATO need Putin's approval for Sweden, Finland or any other former Eastern Block country to join NATO???
Dude - you're the one that quite ignorantly "sprouted" that NATO membership was a "bargaining chip" with Putin.
As for "unrealistic demands" how about your moronic President's demands in regards to GAZA???

If Biden would still be in office - Putin would cave in or at least be willing to grant further concessions towards NATO and Ukraine - since he well knows that he has no chance militarily nor economically against NATO and the EU.
Even though he bent Biden over the kitchen counter for eight years. OK, sure
And again - it was foremost the USA that caused the Ukraine war in the first place, it's massive destruction and the loss of at least 500,000 Ukrainians. Just for Trump now to run off???

You are aware that Putin will rearm and reform his military - to then again strike Ukraine???
Well Europe is - and therefore needs every bargaining chip, to ensure a credible security arrangement for Ukraine. With or without the USA.

And Trump clearly sabotaged this necessity with Hegseth loudmouthing and giving away all cards.
One can only hope that Europe will finally disband it's membership from NATO and form it's own European alliance.
Since the USA can't be trusted in any way.
Your irrational hatred of Trump is quite amusing given that it is the demented cretin you put in office that fucked over the Ukrainians.
 
Dude - you're the one that quite ignorantly "sprouted" that NATO membership was a "bargaining chip" with Putin......
Off course it is THE MAJOR bargaining chip. It has always been solely Putin who lives in fear of Ukraine being a NATO member. Aside from his Ukrainian NAZI polemic - this was exactly as to what he constantly forwarded to "justify" his attacks onto a sovereign country, which never posed a credible threat to Russia.

Furthermore Putin has absolutely NO say, as to who becomes a NATO member.
If Putin want's to continue the war with his mediocre military & N-Korean aboriginals - fine, more NATO assistance would come - with or without the USA.

So far, only Ukrainians had to die - Not NATO nor any US troops. Ukraine had made it very clear that their ultimate goal is to become a NATO and EU member - and that's exactly as to what they were willing to sacrifice 500,000 people for, so far.

The USA provoked this war - and now the US simply wants to chicken out of it, just as in Afghanistan, and is impertinent enough to even compromise, sabotage the peace talks whilst excluding Ukraine - simply due to some human scumbag wanting to impress his voter sheep whilst trying to earn a buck in Ukraine and Russia.

If Harris had won the election - only you MAGA sheep and some Lefty dolts in Europe would propagate that Putin would be willing to risk a nuclear confrontation.

After this open betrayal, you honestly believe that Europe is still willing to come to aid the USA - if they get into a confrontation with China alongside with Russia and N-Korea??
Trump is destroying a solid military alliance lasting for 75 years - within weeks. And Putin and Xi are laughing their heads off.

You naive enough to believe that Japan, Taiwan and S-Korea will place any further trust onto the USA, knowing that if necessary they will be played/ bargained off by the USA making a "Deal" just as in the case of Ukraine??

**** the USA and it's Foreign policy, **** TRUMP and his ignorant sheep.
 
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Two extremely stupid Scandinavian countries that will soon realize without the US cash cow, the costs will quickly exceed the benefits.
Wonder how much US bases in NATO countries will cost under Shitlers! second attempt to weaken NATO for the pootin.
 
Off course it is THE MAJOR bargaining chip. It has always been solely Putin who lives in fear of Ukraine being a NATO member. Aside from his Ukrainian NAZI polemic - this was exactly as to what he constantly forwarded to "justify" his attacks onto a sovereign country, which never posed a credible threat to Russia.

Furthermore Putin has absolutely NO say, as to who becomes a NATO member.
If Putin want's to continue the war with his mediocre military & N-Korean aboriginals - fine, more NATO assistance would come - with or without the USA.

So far, only Ukrainians had to die - Not NATO nor any US troops. Ukraine had made it very clear that their ultimate goal is to become a NATO and EU member - and that's exactly as to what they were willing to sacrifice 500,000 people for, so far.

The USA provoked this war - and now the US simply wants to chicken out of it, just as in Afghanistan, and is pertinent enough to even compromise, sabotage the peace talks whilst excluding Ukraine - simply due to some human scumbag wanting to impress his voter sheep whilst trying to earn a buck in Ukraine and Russia.

If Harris had won the election - only you MAGA sheep and some Lefty dolts in Europe would propagate that Putin would be willing to risk a nuclear confrontation.

After this open betrayal, you honestly believe that Europe is still willing to come to aid the USA - if they get into a confrontation with China alongside with Russia and N-Korea??
Trump is destroying a solid military alliance lasting for 75 years - within weeks. And Putin and Xi are laughing their heads off.

**** the USA and it's Foreign policy, **** TRUMP and his ignorant sheep.
Angry Krusty. A fearless keyboard warrior.
 
Wonder how much US bases in NATO countries will cost under Shitlers! second attempt to weaken NATO for the pootin.
Hopefully by the end of his term it costs us nothing and we bring our troops home.
 
Off course it is THE MAJOR bargaining chip. It has always been solely Putin who lives in fear of Ukraine being a NATO member. Aside from his Ukrainian NAZI polemic - this was exactly as to what he constantly forwarded to "justify" his attacks onto a sovereign country, which never posed a credible threat to Russia.

Furthermore Putin has absolutely NO say, as to who becomes a NATO member.
If Putin want's to continue the war with his mediocre military & N-Korean aboriginals - fine, more NATO assistance would come - with or without the USA.

So far, only Ukrainians had to die - Not NATO nor any US troops. Ukraine had made it very clear that their ultimate goal is to become a NATO and EU member - and that's exactly as to what they were willing to sacrifice 500,000 people for, so far.

The USA provoked this war - and now the US simply wants to chicken out of it, just as in Afghanistan, and is impertinent enough to even compromise, sabotage the peace talks whilst excluding Ukraine - simply due to some human scumbag wanting to impress his voter sheep whilst trying to earn a buck in Ukraine and Russia.

If Harris had won the election - only you MAGA sheep and some Lefty dolts in Europe would propagate that Putin would be willing to risk a nuclear confrontation.

After this open betrayal, you honestly believe that Europe is still willing to come to aid the USA - if they get into a confrontation with China alongside with Russia and N-Korea??
Trump is destroying a solid military alliance lasting for 75 years - within weeks. And Putin and Xi are laughing their heads off.

You naive enough to believe that Japan, Taiwan and S-Korea will place any further trust onto the USA, knowing that if necessary they will be played/ bargained off by the USA making a "Deal" just as in the case of Ukraine??

**** the USA and it's Foreign policy, **** TRUMP and his ignorant sheep.
If Trump's actions end NATO it is nothing but a net gain for America. Cry more.
 
If Trump's actions end NATO it is nothing but a net gain for America. Cry more.
Thanks for openly showing how stupid and ignorant you and your ilk are

BTW - dummy - Around 55 per cent of arms imports by European states in 2019–23 were supplied by the USA
Not even to mention all those military bases the USA will lose - which are vital for US global Hegemony.
Those foreseeable repercussions coming from other US allies/buyers will ensure an even bigger financial hit - the USA will have to deal with.
 
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Thanks for openly showing how stupid and ignorant you and your ilk are
Hardly, NATO has no benefit for the US. In any given scenario we do the heavy lifting with no potential gain but extraordinary potential for loss in lives and money. You whiners need to grow up.
 
Think about the fact that Putin calculated his invasion under the pretend presidency of Biden, knowing he would have a free hand.

Then try to convince yourself Biden wasn't a play toy for Putin.
As I said, the 2020 election was a win/win from Putin's perspective and expectations.

If Trump won, that gave Putin more time to build up his forces for the invasion,

If Biden won, he falsely bleeved, like you did, Biden would be pushover.

There are very few times in history when an aggressor grossly underestimated their opponent.

Instead of caving, Biden and the rest of NATO kicked Putin's balls up to his chin.
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He occupies most of the land Russia wants to claim in any settlement.

No, I sound like a realist.

Without actual war and the massive loss of life. You seem rather prolific in wanting to spend Ukrainian lives when yours isn't at any risk.

Grab a rifle and join one of those foreign legions, tough guy.
I spent more than 20 years of my life on active duty, appeaser.

I stood up to Putin's predecessors and helped bring them down,

Don't forget the USSR held a lot of territories which they had to give up when they collapsed.

So Putin's current occupation doesn't mean shit in the long run.

We just need to continue to stand up to this communist thug.
 
As I said, the 2020 election was a win/win from Putin's perspective and expectations.

If Trump won, that gave Putin more time to build up his forces for the invasion,

If Biden won, he falsely bleeved, like you did, Biden would be pushover.

There are very few times in history when an aggressor grossly underestimated their opponent.

Instead of caving, Biden and the rest of NATO kicked Putin's balls up to his chin.
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I understand Putin is your hero and your conspiracy theory is that Biden was something other than a clown show.

Lay off Putin’s balls. This is not the thread for your psycho-sexual fantasies.
 
According to the map Russia is not losing. In fact they have been gaining ground and settlements every week for months now. None of it is our problem nor remotely of our national interests.
Yeah, people said Hitler was winning for a long time, too.

You know what is both funny and revealing?

Trump's cult says Biden was the *****, and yet it's their cult god who wants to cave to Putin,

The lack of self-awareness of these appeasing cowards is breathtaking
 
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I spent more than 20 years of my life on active duty, appeaser.

I stood up to Putin's predecessors and helped bring them down,

Don't forget the USSR held a lot of territories which they had to give up when they collapsed.

So Putin's current occupation doesn't mean shit in the long run.

We just need to continue to stand up to this communist thug.

For how long?

You stood on a wall, these guys are dying in droves.
 
Finland and Sweden in NATO have to burn Pootie's ass.

Biden had nothing to do with it, self-preservation was the reason.

How do you know that? Putin wants ALL OF UKRAINE DUMBASS.
Ending the war is what Trump promised, and it looks like its what he will deliver.
Its up to the EU to furnish "peacekeepers" to enforce the peace.
Wonder how long it will Take for Trump to start mining rare earth metals in Ukraine?
Ukraine has offered those rare minerals to Trump IF HE CONTINUES TO HELP THEM FIGHT.
 
Yeah, people said Hitler was winning for a long time, too.

You know what is both funny and revealing?

Trump's cult says Biden was the *****, and yet it's their cult god who wants to cave to Putin,

The lack of self-awareness of these appeasing cowards is breathtaking
Biden caved the day Russian troops crossed the border. That is reality. Trump is cleaning up the mess.
 
Biden caved the day Russian troops crossed the border.
Wow. How many pounds of brain damage does it take to actually say that, I wonder.

Who has been demanding we stop funding Ukraine? Eh? Eh? Eh?

The Republicans.

Your statement is not just a lie, it is an astounding mountain of BULLSHIT in the face of the facts.
 

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