Trump: US, Russia Agree to Start Talks on Ending Ukraine War

[Rogue AI]

And now Putin has two new NATO members right on his doorstep.

What a genius!

Putin seriously underestimated Biden and NATO.

Trump's plan to end the war is to give Putin everything Putin wants.

Two extremely stupid Scandinavian countries that will soon realize without the US cash cow, the costs will quickly exceed the benefits.

 

[Kruska]

Do at least try to be honest. He said the pre-2014 borders were unrealistic,

It's the exact same thing, as ignorantly sprouting that occupied territory would be unrealistic to be returned. - you moron.

Both, Crimea and Ukraine's eastern provinces were occupied by Russian troops in 2014. - Whilst Putin falsely claiming that no Russian troops would be in Ukraine's Eastern province.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - 17 July 2014

The USA was the one to expand NATO eastward - thus creating the pretext for Russia to get involved militarily in Ukraine.
Now with their tails between their legs - just as in Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan - they run off, whilst creating the next Ukraine in Gaza.

 

[g5000]

Two extremely stupid Scandinavian countries that will soon realize without the US cash cow, the costs will quickly exceed the benefits.

Pulled that claim from three feet up your ass.

Finland and Sweden come to the table better suited to support their roles than we do.

Putin royally fucked up.

And his propaganda bullshit about not wanting a Cuba-esque country on his doorstep is pure, unadulterated bullshit, and you fell for it.

KGG Putin is trying to reconstitute the Soviet Union. Stop buying into his bullshit excuses.

 

[Rawley]

Only an idiot would bring this up - whilst ignoring that Hegseth, today back-stabbed NATO, via declaring that the USA does not support Ukraine's NATO membership and sprouting that occupied territory would be unrealistic to be returned.

Before even having official talks with Putin

DO you think NATO membership for Ukraine is realistic? Or Putin agreeing to return Crimea?

 

[Kruska]

DO you think NATO membership for Ukraine is realistic?

That's not the point - to bluntly give away bargaining chips BEFORE official talks are held with Putin, isn't just plain stupid, but also TREASON towards the European NATO members and Canada.

 

[Rogue AI]

It's the exact same thing, as ignorantly sprouting that occupied territory would be unrealistic to be returned. - you moron.

Both, Crimea and Ukraine's eastern provinces were occupied by Russian troops in 2014. - Whilst Putin falsely claiming that no Russian troops would be in Ukraine's Eastern province.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - 17 July 2014

The USA was the one to expand NATO eastward - thus creating the pretext for Russia to get involved militarily in Ukraine.
Now with their tails between their legs - just as in Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan - they run off, whilst creating the next Ukraine in Gaza.

Don't be stupid. The oblasts claimed by Russia since 2022 are still on the table in some fashion. Blame your appeasement president Biden for this mess. The second he and our Eurotrash dependents stood by and watched Russia invade, the die was already cast. The second we said the Ukraine wasn't worth American lives we should have walked away, not continuously weaken our bargaining position thereafter.

 

[g5000]

Who are these two new NATO members? When did they enter the alliance?

Were you asleep or something?

You really don't know?

Putin knew Biden was doddering and ineffectual. That's why he started the war when Biden was pretending to be president.

Putin ASSUMED the same bullshit you do. As it turns out, you were all wrong, and Biden kicked Putin in the balls continuously.

So you all started whining Ukraine deserved to be massacred, parroting ALL of KGB Putin's propaganda.

Is Trump's plan really to "give Putin everything Putin wants" or is that just your hysterical rambling?

Trump has been madly in love with Putin from the get-go. He blushed like a schoolgirl several years ago when asked if he had a relationship with Putin, claiming he did have one.

That was a lie.

He even hoped, like a schoolgirl, Putin would be his "new best friend" when Trump took his beauty contest to Russia.

The 2020 election was a win/win as far as Putin was concerned. If Trump won, it gave Putin more time to build up his military for the invasion, knowing Trump would keep sucking his dick.

If Biden won the 2020 election, Putin assumed, like so many others, that Biden would be a pushover.

 

[Hollie]

Were you asleep or something?

You really don't know?


Putin ASSUMED the same bullshit you do. As it turns out, you were all wrong, and Biden kicked Putin in the balls continuously.

So you all started whining Ukraine deserved to be massacred, parroting ALL of KGB Putin's propaganda.



Trump has been madly in love with Putin from the get-go. He blushed like a schoolgirl several years ago when asked if he had a relationship with Putin, claiming he did have one.

That was a lie.

He even hoped, like a schoolgirl, Putin would be his "new best friend" when Trump took his beauty contest to Russia.

Putin assumed Trump was going to be re-elected in 2020. That's why he postponed his invasion as long as he did so he had more time to build up his military for the invasion.

If Biden won the 2020 election, it was win/win for Putin, as he assumed like so many other that Biden would be a pushover.

I missed the news on two new NATO members. Tell us when those members were added.

Your schoolgirl crush on Trump is concerning.

I find it hilarious you retroactively interpreted Putin's goals and intentions. It's like you can predict the past....or something.

 

[g5000]

I missed news on two new NATO members. Tell us when those members were added.

Wow. It was in all the papers, and I'm sure even your propagandists talked about it.

Finland joined on 4 April 2023, and Sweden joined on 7 March 2024.

They both applied for membership right after Putin's illegal invasion in 2022.

So you were asleep for....two years?

 

[Rogue AI]

Pulled that claim from three feet up your ass.

Finland and Sweden come to the table better suited to support their roles than we do.

Putin royally fucked up.

And his propaganda bullshit about not wanting a Cuba-esque country on his doorstep is pure, unadulterated bullshit, and you fell for it.

KGG Putin is trying to reconstitute the Soviet Union. Stop buying into his bullshit excuses.

What exactly do they offer? Very little in terms of equipment and manpower. You loons don't seem to get it. These pissant countries are an albatross around our neck. If conflict arises, we will pay the lion's share in lives and money. It's utterly stupid.

 

[g5000]

What exactly do they offer? Very little in terms of equipment and manpower. You loons don't seem to get it. These pissant countries are an albatross around our neck. If conflict arises, we will pay the lion's share in lives and money. It's utterly stupid.

"Very little". BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Thanks for your input, Comrade Useful Idiot.

I'm sure two new NATO members on his doorstep bothers KGB Putin not at all.

If he so much as touches them, all hell breaks loose from every other NATO member.

 

[martybegan]

It's the exact same thing, as ignorantly sprouting that occupied territory would be unrealistic to be returned. - you moron.

Both, Crimea and Ukraine's eastern provinces were occupied by Russian troops in 2014. - Whilst Putin falsely claiming that no Russian troops would be in Ukraine's Eastern province.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - 17 July 2014

The USA was the one to expand NATO eastward - thus creating the pretext for Russia to get involved militarily in Ukraine.
Now with their tails between their legs - just as in Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan - they run off, whilst creating the next Ukraine in Gaza.

So how do you force Russia to give Ukraine back it's 2014 borders?

Ukraine can't achieve that via force of arms?

How?

 

[g5000]

So how do you force Russia to give Ukraine back it's 2014 borders?

By providing everything Ukraine needs to push the asshole back where he belongs.

 

[martybegan]

By providing everything Ukraine needs to push the asshole back where he belongs.

That would be 4-5 corps worth of fully trained and equipped to western standards Mech Infantry and Armor as well as enough western trained and equipped air wings to provide air supremacy.

Does that force exist and who's force is it?

 

[Hollie]

By providing everything Ukraine needs to push the asshole back where he belongs.

Are you going to demand that Sweden and Finland provide arms and soldiers to "push the asshole back where he belongs."

Let us know how Sweden and Finland respond to your demands.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Sorry, Krusty, but what entitlement does Ukraine have for NATO membership?

He is sabotaging Trump's negotiating position.

 

[Hollie]

He said he would end it in 24 hours. He said he would end it before he was sworn in.

Trump absolutely depends on his cult having memories like that of goldfish.

Your Cult hero ole' stumblebum was a "uniter". Remember that slogan?

 

[Kruska]

Don't be stupid. The oblasts claimed by Russia since 2022 are still on the table in some fashion. Blame your appeasement president Biden for this mess. The second he and our Eurotrash dependents stood by and watched Russia invade, the die was already cast. The second we said the Ukraine wasn't worth American lives we should have walked away, not continuously weaken our bargaining position thereafter.

All you are stating and confirming is:

The Trump administration has once again proven to be a non reliable partner.


As for your "European dependent" crap - you got no clue about the European NATO, and therefore only regurgitate Trump bull.

Tell me, how much did the European NATO members spend for defense in 2024 - and how much did Russia spend in 2024.
And do tell me,
How much have the European NATO members spend since 1990 - and how much did Russia spend since 1990.

Every one in the topic or affiliated with NATO service, knows that ONLY the nuclear umbrella of the USA was and is of interest/concern.
We don't and never needed anything else from the USA since 1990. But solely the USA needed Europe for it's bases to ensure it's global hegemony.

 

[Lesh]

Let's expect the leftist conspiracy theories about Trump being a Russian asset as opposed to making an effort to end the war.

Something democrats couldn't do.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-putin-ukraine-war/2025/02/12/id/1198830/

It’s not his war to end.

Any “talks” would include the nations actually AT war

 

[Rawley]

That's not the point - to bluntly give away bargaining chips BEFORE official talks are held with Putin, isn't just plain stupid, but also TREASON towards the European NATO members and Canada.

You think making unrealistic demands is a good negotiation strategy? Do you think that NATO need Putin's approval to make Ukraine a member of NATO?