Trump ultimatum: Open Hormuz in 48-hours or your powerplants will be destroyed. (Poll)

Do you support Trump's ultimatum? (Open Hormuz or we destroy your powreplants)

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 36.0%
  • No

    Votes: 16 64.0%

  • Total voters
    25

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Now we're getting somewhere:

Trump, Iran threaten power, energy targets as war escalates​


'Open Hormuz Or Will Destroy Power Plants': Trump Warns Iran, Tehran Responds​



I fully support this ultimatum. Get that oil moving!!
 
They are trying mightily to not destroy infrastructure people need to live. However, patience has limits. Hopefully behind the scenes there are people in Iran organizing some type of transitional government operation.
 
Now we're getting somewhere:

Trump, Iran threaten power, energy targets as war escalates​


'Open Hormuz Or Will Destroy Power Plants': Trump Warns Iran, Tehran Responds​



I fully support this ultimatum. Get that oil moving!!
If I were Iran, I would respond with: "If you hit our powerplants then we hit the powerplants of your bosses in Israel."
 
The best outcome would be a regime change with a free election at this point. China and Russia are supporting Iran so if Iran falls, China and Russia are greatly isolated, resigned to N Korea as their only true ally. The problem is that this would require boots on the ground and perhaps a year of fighting in a horrible environment, even as the Iranian military is decimated. If the IRCC start being recruited and armed, if members start leaving en mass, this would greatly help in this outcome. The problem is time, both politically for Trump and GOP and economically. China and Russia know this.
 
I hope you're part of "we". I'm not sure the system is working like you think it is. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/joe-kent-tucker-carlson-iran-war-criticism-9.7134242
Joe Kent was identified as a leaker months before he resigned. He was not "in the loop".
(he had 11 tours in Iraq, and his wife, a Navy cryptographer, was killed in Syria by a suicide bomber, Joe is off my radar)

What part of the "system" isn't working?

Yes I'm part of "we". I support regime change in Iran.

They have ICBMs and 440 kg of enriched uranium, very dangerous.
 
If I were Iran, I would respond with: "If you hit our powerplants then we hit the powerplants of your bosses in Israel."
Not a threat. Israel's "Iron Dome" is pretty good.

I was happy to hear that our "Space Force" knocked down Iran's ICBM headed for Diego Garcia.
 
Trump is as nuts as Caligula or a coked up Scarface at the end of the movie. Caligula appointed his horse to the Senate, Trump send rabid Zionists Witkoff and Jared to start a war with Iran

This was supposedly a war to help the Iranian people and now he’s working with our “Greatest Ally” to exterminate as many Iranians as possible without using nuclear weapons. Just take out their energy grid and desalination plants
 
The best outcome would be a regime change with a free election at this point. China and Russia are supporting Iran so if Iran falls, China and Russia are greatly isolated, resigned to N Korea as their only true ally. The problem is that this would require boots on the ground and perhaps a year of fighting in a horrible environment, even as the Iranian military is decimated. If the IRCC start being recruited and armed, if members start leaving en mass, this would greatly help in this outcome. The problem is time, both politically for Trump and GOP and economically. China and Russia know this.
Yes. Regime Change in most of Western Civilization will come from this
 
The best outcome would be a regime change with a free election at this point. China and Russia are supporting Iran so if Iran falls, China and Russia are greatly isolated, resigned to N Korea as their only true ally. The problem is that this would require boots on the ground and perhaps a year of fighting in a horrible environment, even as the Iranian military is decimated. If the IRGC start being recruited and armed, if members start leaving en mass, this would greatly help in this outcome. The problem is time, both politically for Trump and GOP and economically. China and Russia know this.
Don't confuse Iran's military with the IRGC. The IRGC is like Hitler's SS, the regular Army might be with the people.

The US has "allies" in the Iran war, the Gulf states and the Kurds.

There won't be a year of fighting. Once we take Kharg island Iran has no money.

If Hormuz isn't opened tomorrow Iran's powerplants get destroyed, without power Iran has no water...
 
Trump is as nuts as Caligula or a coked up Scarface at the end of the movie. Caligula appointed his horse to the Senate, Trump send rabid Zionists Witkoff and Jared to start a war with Iran

This was supposedly a war to help the Iranian people and now he’s working with our “Greatest Ally” to exterminate as many Iranians as possible without using nuclear weapons. Just take out their energy grid and desalination plants
So its an easy choice. Open Hormuz or die.
 
This is a bad idea

Maybe it would lead to a popular uprising and overthrow of the mullahs

But it could also result in uniting the iranians against the US

I think a better option is to seize Kharg Island and cut off the mullahs money stream

Yes, they may target their own refineries, but either way they will have no money to support the government
 
Don't confuse Iran's military with the IRGC. The IRGC is like Hitler's SS, the Army might be with the people.

The US has "allies" in the Iran war, the Gulf states and the Kurds.

There won't be a year of fighting. Once we take Kharg island Iran has no money.

If Hormuz isn't opened tomorrow Iran's powerplants get destroyed, without power Iran has no water...
That would open up a bigger humanitarian problem,.though it would certainly put Iranian governments back to the wall.
 
15th post
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The president added that NATO hasn't had the "courage" to assist the U.S. with reopening the waterway.

Why do Americans forget their participating route to the World wars :dunno:

Where was America's courage back then?
 
This is a bad idea. Maybe it would lead to a popular uprising and overthrow of the mullahs
But it could also result in uniting the Iranians against the US
No way. Iranians want regime change. 32,000 just died proving that.
I think a better option is to seize Kharg Island and cut off the mullahs money stream
Yes, they may target their own refineries, but either way they will have no money to support the government
We can take Kharg, but that doesn't open Hormuz.

Trump's ultimatum: Open Hormuz or die, is decisive.
 
Not a threat. Israel's "Iron Dome" is pretty good.

I was happy to hear that our "Space Force" knocked down Iran's ICBM headed for Diego Garcia.
Turns out the Iron Dome wasn't/isn't as effective as they had hoped it would be and they're running very low on defensive missiles. Couple that with the fact that Iran is using cluster munitions and it becomes very possible that Iran can continue meting out great damage to Israel's infrastructure. The Iranians have proven to be a much more difficult foe than Trump and team had anticipated.
 
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