Trump ultimatum: Open Hormuz in 48-hours or your powerplants will be destroyed. (Poll)

[CrusaderFrank]

Don't confuse Iran's military with the IRGC. The IRGC is like Hitler's SS, the regular Army might be with the people.

The US has "allies" in the Iran war, the Gulf states and the Kurds.

There won't be a year of fighting. Once we take Kharg island Iran has no money.

If Hormuz isn't opened tomorrow Iran's powerplants get destroyed, without power Iran has no water...

So you’re rooting for the deaths of tens of millions of the innocent people you claim to be helping

That’s interesting

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Iranian people need to overthrow their government.

That’s the case for most of Western Civilization as well

 

[Mac-7]

No way. Iranians want regime change. 32,000 just died proving that.

We can take Kharg, but that doesn't open Hormuz.

Trump's ultimatum: Open Hormuz or die, is decisive.

And when we bomb the power plants what then?

The Strait will still be closed as long as the mullahs rule Iran

 

[kyzr]

Turns out the Iron Dome wasn't/isn't as effective as they had hoped it would be and they're running very low on defensive missiles. Couple that with the fact that Iran is using cluster munitions and it becomes very possible that Iran can continue meting out great damage to Israel's infrastructure. The Iranians have proven to be a much more difficult foe than Trump and team had anticipated.

Those "cluster munitions" are more of a nuisance than a serious threat. They are very small bomblets.

Iran is not that difficult. We'll see if they choose to open Hormuz or die.

 

[Captain Caveman]

That’s the case for most of Western Civilization as well

Joe Public never want to go to war, it's bloody governments that's the problem.

 

[kyzr]

So you’re rooting for the deaths of tens of millions of the innocent people you claim to be helping. That’s interesting

No. I'm rooting for regime change in support of the Iranian people.
We'll soon see if Iran's leaders choose to die.

 

[SaxonJackson]

The best outcome would be a regime change with a free election at this point. China and Russia are supporting Iran so if Iran falls, China and Russia are greatly isolated, resigned to N Korea as their only true ally. The problem is that this would require boots on the ground and perhaps a year of fighting in a horrible environment, even as the Iranian military is decimated. If the IRCC start being recruited and armed, if members start leaving en mass, this would greatly help in this outcome. The problem is time, both politically for Trump and GOP and economically. China and Russia know this.

"Regime change" isn't always a good option. Russia under Czar rule was replaced with Bolshevik rule. Horrible result.
America under Bush Jr. was bad but it was much worse under Obama.

Iran's current protestors are Iran's version of Antifa. Are we sure we can an Iran/Antifa coalition?

 

[kyzr]

And when we bomb the power plants what then?
The Strait will still be closed as long as the mullahs rule Iran

If we destroy the powerplants the mullahs will have bigger problems than the Strait of Hormuz.

I wouldn't "destroy" the powerplants, but damage them enough to be repairable in weeks. Maybe knock out substations.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Those "cluster munitions" are more of a nuisance than a serious threat. They are very small bomblets.

Iran is not that difficult. We'll see if they choose to open Hormuz or die.

Tel Aviv:

It doesn't take a giant missile to take out a transformer or a small power plant.

 

[kyzr]

Tel Aviv:
It doesn't take a giant missile to take out a transformer or a small power plant.

True. We'll soon see if Iran opens the strait or not.

 

[Mac-7]

If we destroy the powerplants the mullahs will have bigger problems than the Strait of Hormuz.

I wouldn't "destroy" the powerplants, but damage them enough to be repairable in weeks. Maybe knock out substations.

The mullahs will correctly point out that it wad the Americsns who turned off the lights

Many people might see through that excuse but many others will not

And it wont prevent the mullahs from selling oil

Seizing Kharg Island will hurt them much more

 

[Mac-7]

True. We'll soon see if Iran opens the strait or not.

Iran will not open the Strait based on that threat

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No way. Iranians want regime change. 32,000 just died proving that.

We can take Kharg, but that doesn't open Hormuz.

Trump's ultimatum: Open Hormuz or die, is decisive.

I keep seeing these “Iran killed (fill in the blank) protesters” fake news “stories”

30,000
35,000
80,000

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No. I'm rooting for regime change in support of the Iranian people.
We'll soon see if Iran's leaders choose to die.

Hey, why doesn’t Trump threaten Iran that he’ll appoint Jared as their new leader?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If we destroy the powerplants the mullahs will have bigger problems than the Strait of Hormuz.

I wouldn't "destroy" the powerplants, but damage them enough to be repairable in weeks. Maybe knock out substations.

And when Iran hits Dimona and Israel desalination plants in response?

What then? Bomb Iran even more?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

U.S. and our Israel colony vs. the rest of the world.
We`ll lose.

The US will be taken out. Israel will remain.

 

[JWBooth]

If I were Iran, I would respond with: "If you hit our powerplants then we hit the powerplants of your bosses in Israel."

I think they made that clear.

 

[the watcher]

Joe Kent was identified as a leaker months before he resigned. He was not "in the loop".
(he had 11 tours in Iraq, and his wife, a Navy cryptographer, was killed in Syria by a suicide bomber, Joe is off my radar)

What part of the "system" isn't working?

Yes I'm part of "we". I support regime change in Iran.

They have ICBMs and 440 kg of enriched uranium, very dangerous.

Do you really believe that the shot callers (I won't dignify them with calling them government) really sit around, listening to input from the corporate intelligence agencies, foreign and domestic, and decide that everyone in the US wants a total global war for shifting and poorly defined reasons? You seem to accept every thing that comes down the pipeline without even flinching, so I think that's exactly how you roll. Try to explain this aggression without mentioning Israel, our "allies", or oil. Thank you.

 

[August West]

So you support Iran having nukes and ICBMs? I don't.

What "rest of the world"? I don't see anyone coming to defend Iran, do you?

I don`t support anyone having nukes. A career criminal who incited a deadly riot and robbed a cancer charity should not have access to nuclear weapons. Do you see anyone coming to defend this country other than Israel? I don`t.

 

[kyzr]

The mullahs will correctly point out that it wad the Americsns who turned off the lights
Many people might see through that excuse but many others will not
And it wont prevent the mullahs from selling oil
Seizing Kharg Island will hurt them much more

Seizing Kharg island won't open Hormuz.

I agree we should take Kharg island, but that is a long term solution to Iran's finances, threatening powerplants is an immediate solution.