Trump to unveil plans for new U.S. ‘battleship’, reports say

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Congrats for discovering the Arliegh Burke class three decades late

Huh?

 

[g5000]

In before some Trump-hating jackwad says "Battleships are so 20th-century..."

It's a fact, you ignorant stumblefuck, that battleships don't exist any more for a reason.

Trump also does not get that battleships are named after states.

He also does not get a class of warship is named after the first in the class. For example, the first Aegis destroyer is named the Arleigh Burke, and all subsequent Aegis destroyers are Arleigh Burke class ships.

There will be no egomoniacal Trump-class ships.

There will be no battleships.

And you think you aren't in a cult.

 

[g5000]

The new ships will be the largest in the history of the US Navy and will be equipped with hypersonic weapons, lasers, and capable of carrying nuclear weapons, cruise missiles, and railguns.

Also, sharks with lasers.

 

[g5000]

That's what laser defense weapons are made for. What was ridiculous was creating a "littoral combat ship" that was stealthy, but had no armor.

Stealth is useless when your purpose for the ship is to fight close to shore, where artillery and tanks can shoot at you.

It is the stupidest ******* waste of time I have seen in decades. These are the "experts" these leftoids are supporting.

Stealth is for proceeding from Point A to Point B without being detected, moron.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Also, sharks with lasers.

If Trump and MTG ever made up...

..... ..... ..... It would be...

..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... Jewish Sharks with Space LASERS.

WW

 

[g5000]

Dude, that is ridiculous. Nobody, AND I MEAN NOBODY ever spends their way out of debt. You'd have to monetize the debt by printing or creating more money and that results in hyperinflation.

You can spend your way out of debt as long as you are getting a return on your investment. Infrastructure, education, research, etc.

Businesses do it all the time.

 

[g5000]

Battleships did not participate in the Battle of Midway.

Because they had been sunk the previous December at Pearl Harbor.

 

[g5000]

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Ignorance.

If the first ship is named Defiant, then they are all Defiant-class battleships.

We are living in an Idiocracy.

 

[g5000]

The US needs to ramp up its shipbuilding of cargo ships, not some egomaniacal moron's vanity targets.

 

[westwall]

Stealth is for proceeding from Point A to Point B without being detected, moron.

With a wake thousands of yards long.

DURRRRRR.

You're not very smart are you. Critical thinking not your forte?

 

[westwall]

The US needs to ramp up its shipbuilding of cargo ships, not some egomaniacal moron's vanity targets.

There is only one US flag steamship company. The unions priced themselves out of existence.

 

[Stryder50]

OMG!
The depth of ignorance on this subject is astounding.
Then again this is the 21st century USA which has fallen far from the greatness it once had.
And this USMB which has become a drinking club more than a thinking club ....

FWIW/FYI

...
The Iowa class was a class of six fast battleships ordered by the United States Navy in 1939 and 1940. They were initially intended to intercept fast capital ships such as the Japanese Kongō-class battlecruisers and serve as the "fast wing" of the U.S. battle line.<a href="Iowa-class battleship - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a><a href="Iowa-class battleship - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> The Iowa class was designed to meet the Second London Naval Treaty's "escalator clause" limit of 45,000-long-ton (45,700 t) standard displacement. Beginning in August 1942, four vessels, Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin, were completed; two more, Illinois and Kentucky, were laid down but canceled in 1945 and 1958, respectively, before completion, and both hulls were scrapped in 1958–1959.

The four Iowa-class ships were the last battleships commissioned in the U.S. Navy. All older U.S. battleships were decommissioned by 1947 and stricken from the Naval Vessel Register (NVR) by 1963. Between the mid-1940s and the early 1990s, the Iowa-class battleships fought in four major U.S. wars. In the Pacific Theater of World War II, they served primarily as fast escorts for Essex-class aircraft carriers of the Fast Carrier Task Force and also shelled Japanese positions. During the Korean War, the battleships provided naval gunfire support (NGFS) for United Nations forces, and in 1968, New Jersey shelled Viet Cong and Vietnam People's Army forces in the Vietnam War. All four were reactivated and modernized at the direction of the United States Congress in 1981, and armed with missiles during the 1980s, as part of the 600-ship Navy initiative. During Operation Desert Storm in 1991, Missouri and Wisconsin fired missiles and 16-inch (406 mm) guns at Iraqi targets.

Costly to maintain, the battleships were decommissioned during the post–Cold War drawdown in the early 1990s. All four were initially removed from the Naval Vessel Register, but the United States Congress compelled the Navy to reinstate two of them on the grounds that existing shore bombardment capability would be inadequate for amphibious operations. This resulted in a lengthy debate over whether battleships should have a role in the modern navy. Ultimately, all four ships were stricken from the Naval Vessel Register and released for donation to non-profit organizations. With the transfer of Iowa in 2012, all four are museum ships part of non-profit maritime museums across the US.
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Iowa-class battleship - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Battleship (BB) is a specific class of ship type, versus the generic nomenclature (ship used in "battle") being used in this thread and related links.
The type of ship presented in the OP is far from the traditional type of "Battleship"/BB.

The current value of any class of ship close to a "Battleship", i.e. a vessel with large caliber artillery guns(canons) in say the 8" to 16" diameter barrel size would be for the purpose of providing close to shore artillery bombardment in support of amphibious (over beach) landings~invasion, and coastal military operations. Concept being that kinetic artillery munitions would be less expensive in certain applications than ballistic missiles.

 

[22lcidw]

The US needs to ramp up its shipbuilding of cargo ships, not some egomaniacal moron's vanity targets.

I think the class/type of ships is semantics. Arleigh burke destroyers are topping out at 2.5 billion dollars a copy. The Zumwalt destroyer was 3 billion dollars when cancelled and now would be approximately 4.5 billion dollars. Much of the Zumwalt and Arleigh's would be put into the new class cruiser or battleship. The newest Arleigh's are 9700 tons and maxed out. The Zumwalt's are 15,000 tons. The Defiant Class that is not a Destroyer in semantics is looking around 35,000 tons or so and the costs was said 5 billion dollars. That is a lot more ship than the Zumwalt's. So, the Arleigh's may stick around a little longer.

 

[otto105]

This was hilarious:

On a visit to a shipyard that was working on the now-canceled Constellation-class frigate in 2020, Trump said he personally changed the design of the ship.

"I looked at it, I said, 'That's a terrible-looking ship, let's make it beautiful,'" Trump said at the time.

He said Monday he will have a direct role in designing this new warship as well.

"The U.S. Navy will lead the design of these ships along with me, because I'm a very aesthetic person," Trump said.

--he wants the warship to be "beautiful". LOL

The ships also will be equipped with orange makeup stations “manned” 24-hours….

 

[westwall]

OMG!
The depth of ignorance on this subject is astounding.
Then again this is the 21st century USA which has fallen far from the greatness it once had.
And this USMB which has become a drinking club more than a thinking club ....

FWIW/FYI

...
The Iowa class was a class of six fast battleships ordered by the United States Navy in 1939 and 1940. They were initially intended to intercept fast capital ships such as the Japanese Kongō-class battlecruisers and serve as the "fast wing" of the U.S. battle line.<a href="Iowa-class battleship - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a><a href="Iowa-class battleship - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a> The Iowa class was designed to meet the Second London Naval Treaty's "escalator clause" limit of 45,000-long-ton (45,700 t) standard displacement. Beginning in August 1942, four vessels, Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin, were completed; two more, Illinois and Kentucky, were laid down but canceled in 1945 and 1958, respectively, before completion, and both hulls were scrapped in 1958–1959.

The four Iowa-class ships were the last battleships commissioned in the U.S. Navy. All older U.S. battleships were decommissioned by 1947 and stricken from the Naval Vessel Register (NVR) by 1963. Between the mid-1940s and the early 1990s, the Iowa-class battleships fought in four major U.S. wars. In the Pacific Theater of World War II, they served primarily as fast escorts for Essex-class aircraft carriers of the Fast Carrier Task Force and also shelled Japanese positions. During the Korean War, the battleships provided naval gunfire support (NGFS) for United Nations forces, and in 1968, New Jersey shelled Viet Cong and Vietnam People's Army forces in the Vietnam War. All four were reactivated and modernized at the direction of the United States Congress in 1981, and armed with missiles during the 1980s, as part of the 600-ship Navy initiative. During Operation Desert Storm in 1991, Missouri and Wisconsin fired missiles and 16-inch (406 mm) guns at Iraqi targets.

Costly to maintain, the battleships were decommissioned during the post–Cold War drawdown in the early 1990s. All four were initially removed from the Naval Vessel Register, but the United States Congress compelled the Navy to reinstate two of them on the grounds that existing shore bombardment capability would be inadequate for amphibious operations. This resulted in a lengthy debate over whether battleships should have a role in the modern navy. Ultimately, all four ships were stricken from the Naval Vessel Register and released for donation to non-profit organizations. With the transfer of Iowa in 2012, all four are museum ships part of non-profit maritime museums across the US.
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View attachment 1197265

Iowa-class battleship - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Battleship (BB) is a specific class of ship type, versus the generic nomenclature (ship used in "battle") being used in this thread and related links.
The type of ship presented in the OP is far from the traditional type of "Battleship"/BB.

The current value of any class of ship close to a "Battleship", i.e. a vessel with large caliber artillery guns(canons) in say the 8" to 16" diameter barrel size would be for the purpose of providing close to shore artillery bombardment in support of amphibious (over beach) landings~invasion, and coastal military operations. Concept being that kinetic artillery munitions would be less expensive in certain applications than ballistic missiles.

Less expensive, 300+ as opposed to 35 or so missiles. Capable of eliminating an entire grid square with a single broadside. Time on target measured in a few minutes, as opposed to up to an hour.

Ability to shift targets rapidly to engage new threats etc.

They should have built a new class of battleship for their littoral combat ship. They could have brought back the 12" gun from the Alaska Class. More efficient, longer ranged, and able to carry more.

Chobham armor on the turrets, and superstructure so that tank rounds aren't a issue, and an angled splinter deck to deal with drones etc.

Torpedo blisters along the main armor belt and you have a vessel that can fight close to shore, and survive.

 

[luiza]

Laugh all you want. It's all that will work now.

Step outside of the nonsense MSM and you will see how they have prepared for the Re-Set because Debt Financial Systems work cyclically and have to finally be scrapped .
This is inherent in their very structure
Think Ponzi .

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If Trump and MTG ever made up...

..... ..... ..... It would be...

..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... Jewish Sharks with Space LASERS.

WW

Sharks can't be Jewish. The little hats cover their blow hole!

 

[Unkotare]

Three classes in a row are screwed up. Just saying. China keeps churning out improved ships.

Made of paper.

 

[rightwinger]

Sharks can't be Jewish. The little hats cover their blow hole!

Sharks have gills not blow holes

 

[citygator]

In before some Trump-hating jackwad says "Battleships are so 20th-century..."

Are they just big floating targets now? I get Aircraft carriers but battleships seems rightly old school. I'll keep reading the thread to see if my mind is changed.