Trump to unveil plans for new U.S. ‘battleship’, reports say

[1srelluc]

President Donald Trump is expected to announce plans for a new class of large US Navy surface combatants he has described as “battleships”, according to reports in U.S. media.​

The Wall Street Journal reported that the announcement is due on Monday and will form part of what the White House is calling a broader “Golden Fleet” vision for revitalising the US Navy. The proposal would mark a significant departure from current US naval force structure, which has focused on aircraft carriers, destroyers, submarines and increasingly unmanned platforms rather than heavily armed capital ships

According to U.S. officials cited by the Journal, the planned vessels would be larger than existing destroyers and cruisers, with some reports suggesting displacement in the region of 15,000 to 20,000 tonnes. While the administration has revived the historic “battleship” label, defence analysts quoted in U.S. coverage note that the ships would not resemble the heavily armoured gun platforms of the 20th century, but instead function as large, missile-armed surface combatants.

Trump to unveil plans for new U.S. âbattleshipâ, reports say

President Donald Trump is expected to announce plans for a new class of large US Navy surface combatants he has described as âbattleshipsâ.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

Meh, just take the Nimitz, put a new reactor in her, and turn her into a PrSM platform.

Imagine an aircraft carrier deck absolutely covered in PrSM launchers, with a whole hanger deck below filled with reloads.

The Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) is a new series of GPS-guided missiles, which will begin to replace ATACMS missiles in 2024. PrSM carries a newly designed area-effects warhead and has a range of 60–499 km (37–310 mi). -wiki

 

[Manonthestreet]

Thats only cruiser size

 

[JGalt]

In before some Trump-hating jackwad says "Battleships are so 20th-century..."

 

[rightwinger]

We need to change our naval doctrine.
Fast, modern, stealthy ships

Drones are the new threat and drove the Russians out of the Black Sea

Don’t know how these ships will fit in the big picture

 

[candycorn]

Start the clock on how soon it is until these plans are scrapped.

Small-hands is overcompensating.

 

[22lcidw]

Start the clock on how soon it is until these plans are scrapped.

Small-hands is overcompensating.

Three classes in a row are screwed up. Just saying. China keeps churning out improved ships.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

President Donald Trump is expected to announce plans for a new class of large US Navy surface combatants he has described as “battleships”, according to reports in U.S. media.​

The Wall Street Journal reported that the announcement is due on Monday and will form part of what the White House is calling a broader “Golden Fleet” vision for revitalising the US Navy. The proposal would mark a significant departure from current US naval force structure, which has focused on aircraft carriers, destroyers, submarines and increasingly unmanned platforms rather than heavily armed capital ships

According to U.S. officials cited by the Journal, the planned vessels would be larger than existing destroyers and cruisers, with some reports suggesting displacement in the region of 15,000 to 20,000 tonnes. While the administration has revived the historic “battleship” label, defence analysts quoted in U.S. coverage note that the ships would not resemble the heavily armoured gun platforms of the 20th century, but instead function as large, missile-armed surface combatants.


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Trump to unveil plans for new U.S. âbattleshipâ, reports say

President Donald Trump is expected to announce plans for a new class of large US Navy surface combatants he has described as âbattleshipsâ.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

Meh, just take the Nimitz, put a new reactor in her, and turn her into a PrSM platform.

Imagine an aircraft carrier deck absolutely covered in PrSM launchers, with a whole hanger deck below filled with reloads.

The Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) is a new series of GPS-guided missiles, which will begin to replace ATACMS missiles in 2024. PrSM carries a newly designed area-effects warhead and has a range of 60–499 km (37–310 mi). -wiki

It would take 3-5 years to replace the reactor and easier to build a new ship with conventional power. The ship itself is 50 years old, worn and tired out. A better use would be to recycle the steel like they doing with the Enterprise.

 

[dudmuck]

In before some Trump-hating jackwad says "Battleships are so 20th-century..."

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We need to change our naval doctrine.
Fast, modern, stealthy ships

Drones are the new threat and drove the Russians out of the Black Sea

Don’t know how these ships will fit in the big picture

The Russians put their missiles out on the deck making secondary damage much easier to inflict. Their air defense system sucks ass.

Drones are easily shot down if you are not a Russian, apparently. How many Iranian drones made it through to Israel?

 

[22lcidw]

He is making sure that if you remove or change things he has done it will cost hundreds of billions of dollars if not trillions. And the citizens will scream loudly. Progs right now are promising to lower prices and costs. This is a good thing if they do it right. They need to further the promises to not screwing them over with added taxes either. You dum asses with the EO's on Joes first day on oil and everything associated with it, screwed us all. Compounding it with printing fiat currency out of the wazoo on your commie named legislation which went to your favorite groups.

 

[candycorn]

This was hilarious:

On a visit to a shipyard that was working on the now-canceled Constellation-class frigate in 2020, Trump said he personally changed the design of the ship.

"I looked at it, I said, 'That's a terrible-looking ship, let's make it beautiful,'" Trump said at the time.

He said Monday he will have a direct role in designing this new warship as well.

"The U.S. Navy will lead the design of these ships along with me, because I'm a very aesthetic person," Trump said.

--he wants the warship to be "beautiful". LOL

 

[rightwinger]

The Russians put their missiles out on the deck making secondary damage much easier to inflict. Their air defense system sucks ass.

Drones are easily shot down if you are not a Russian, apparently. How many Iranian drones made it through to Israel?

Do you see a mission for 20 Battleships?

 

[rightwinger]

TRUMP Class

 

[westwall]

We need to change our naval doctrine.
Fast, modern, stealthy ships

Drones are the new threat and drove the Russians out of the Black Sea

Don’t know how these ships will fit in the big picture

Modern warships have no armor. A New Jersey class battleship could be bombarded by drones for a week and all that would need to be done is repaint where they hit, install new antennae, and sweep the decks.

This of course assumes the harpoon and tomahawk missile launchers have been replaced with vertical launch systems.

 

[candycorn]

TRUMP Class

The world's leading moron comes up with an oxymoron without even knowing it.

 

[candycorn]

We need to change our naval doctrine.
Fast, modern, stealthy ships

Drones are the new threat and drove the Russians out of the Black Sea

Don’t know how these ships will fit in the big picture

There is no "big picture". Its like the trade deficit.

The reason we have a trade deficit is because our economy is so large, we can't efficiently spend the money we have (collectively) on goods produced domestically. So not only do we support our own economy to the point of having 3% unemployment, we buy hundreds of billions of dollars in goods from overseas. Nobody on the right can tell you why this is a bad thing. But they can tell you that (fittingly) the grade school mentality of a "deficit" being a bad thing is real; so they don't want a "deficit" of any type based on something they learned before the had facial hair.

You see the same mentality (or lack thereof) in fielding a battleship 70 years after it was proven to be an inferior platform. The fact that it is "big" means it's favored. Nothing else is factored into the calculation.

The brass must die laughing when the blob isn't around. Between the blob and his SOW...it must feel like they are giving a War for Dummies tutorial whenever they visit.

 

[rightwinger]

You see the same mentality (or lack thereof) in fielding a battleship 70 years after it was proven to be an inferior platform. The fact that it is "big" means it's favored. Nothing else is factored into the calculation.

TRUMP knows better
He is smarter than the Admirals and he is not going to put his name on some rinky dink ship

 

[westwall]

TRUMP knows better
He is smarter than the Admirals and he is not going to put his name on some rinky dink ship

You mean the "experts" that managed to get 13 service people killed because of their gross incompetence?

Those "experts"?

As the saying goes, with "experts" like those, who needs enemies.

 

[meaner gene]

You mean the "experts" that managed to get 13 service people killed because of their gross incompetence?

Those "experts"?

As the saying goes, with "experts" like those, who needs enemies.

Interesting comparison. Under Biden there were 13 combat deaths for his entire term.
Trump in his first term had 64 combat deaths.

Can you do math?

 

[22lcidw]

This was hilarious:

On a visit to a shipyard that was working on the now-canceled Constellation-class frigate in 2020, Trump said he personally changed the design of the ship.

"I looked at it, I said, 'That's a terrible-looking ship, let's make it beautiful,'" Trump said at the time.

He said Monday he will have a direct role in designing this new warship as well.

"The U.S. Navy will lead the design of these ships along with me, because I'm a very aesthetic person," Trump said.

--he wants the warship to be "beautiful". LOL

It's called aesthetic.