Trump tells supporters they're "PAST supporters" and "I don’t want their support anymore!"

[postman]

Construed facts represent a breakage of judicial law that's how. You don't get to lie your ass off, have it verified by a judge who doesn't give a shit and then have it stick as if it was the truth.

Trial Courts as Fact-Finders:

Trial courts are primarily responsible for finding facts. They hear evidence, assess witness credibility, and make determinations about what happened in a case.

Appellate Review of Facts:

When a case is appealed, the appellate court reviews the trial court's decision, but not in the same way a trial court does. Appellate courts generally don't re-hear evidence or question witness credibility.

"Clearly Erroneous" Standard:

The standard for overturning a factual finding on appeal is the "clearly erroneous" standard. This means the appellate court must be convinced that the trial court's finding was not just incorrect, but so wrong that it leaves no question that the judge was mistaken.

Limited Reversal:

Because of the deference given to trial courts, appellate courts rarely overturn factual findings. The appellate court's role is more to ensure the trial was fair and the legal principles were applied correctly, rather than to re-weigh the evidence.

 

[justoffal]

Trial Courts as Fact-Finders:

Trial courts are primarily responsible for finding facts. They hear evidence, assess witness credibility, and make determinations about what happened in a case.

Appellate Review of Facts:

When a case is appealed, the appellate court reviews the trial court's decision, but not in the same way a trial court does. Appellate courts generally don't re-hear evidence or question witness credibility.

"Clearly Erroneous" Standard:

The standard for overturning a factual finding on appeal is the "clearly erroneous" standard. This means the appellate court must be convinced that the trial court's finding was not just incorrect, but so wrong that it leaves no question that the judge was mistaken.

Limited Reversal:

Because of the deference given to trial courts, appellate courts rarely overturn factual findings. The appellate court's role is more to ensure the trial was fair and the legal principles were applied correctly, rather than to re-weigh the evidence.

YAWWWWWN.....LOL .... IT WILL GO TO THE SUPREME COURT. UNLESS NEW YORK SUPREME COURT CORRECTS ALL OF THE GRIEVOUS LAWFARE THAT IS EVIDENT TO ALL ONLOOKERS.
LYING ON THE STAND IS NOT CONSIDERED TO BE AN ACCEPTABLE LEGAL PROCEEDING. DON'T NEED A DEGREE IN LAW TO FIGURE THIS OUT.

 

[postman]

It is illegal to frame somebody with false facts.
That is a breakage of Federal judicial law.
It will end up in front of the supreme Court unless the New York supreme Court corrects this ridiculous circus that happened beneath its jurisdiction.

The determination of facts done in the court of original jurisdiction, and not by an appellate court.

That court can only reverse on grounds of :

The standard for overturning a factual finding on appeal is the "clearly erroneous" standard. This means the appellate court must be convinced that the trial court's finding was not just incorrect, but so wrong that it leaves no question that the judge was mistaken.

 

[justoffal]

The determination of facts done in the court of original jurisdiction, and not by an appellate court.

That court can only reverse on grounds of :

The standard for overturning a factual finding on appeal is the "clearly erroneous" standard. This means the appellate court must be convinced that the trial court's finding was not just incorrect, but so wrong that it leaves no question that the judge was mistaken.

The acceptance of a lunatic's obviously Ludacris testimony is clearly erroneous.

 

[Rogue AI]

Trump wasn't elected to say things, he was elected to do things. So far so good. He is tackling items that have been on the conservative agenda for decades, Dept. Of Education, USAID, deporting illegal aliens, yet some conservatives are caught up on this Epstein thing? Those folks might want to reevaluate their priorities.

 

[postman]

any case can go to the SCOTUS

The Supreme Court's primary function is to review decisions of lower courts, including federal appellate courts and state supreme courts when they involve a question of federal law.

Generally, to be considered for appeal to the Supreme Court, a case must involve a question of federal law or the U.S. Constitution.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Trump wasn't elected to say things, he was elected to do things. So far so good. He is tackling items that have been on the conservative agenda for decades, Dept. Of Education, USAID, deporting illegal aliens, yet some conservatives are caught up on this Epstein thing? Those folks might want to reevaluate their priorities.

He was ELECTED on releasing these files, naming names, and people wanted arrests. Don't tell me people should "reevaluate" priorities, when protecting the children of this country should be number one.

 

[justoffal]

Trump wasn't elected to say things, he was elected to do things. So far so good. He is tackling items that have been on the conservative agenda for decades, Dept. Of Education, USAID, deporting illegal aliens, yet some conservatives are caught up on this Epstein thing? Those folks might want to reevaluate their priorities.

Like a freaking steam roller

 

[justoffal]

He was ELECTED on releasing these files, naming names, and people wanted arrests. Don't tell me people should "reevaluate" priorities, when protecting the children of this country should be number one.

That was only one of the several dozen reasons he was elected but it's only one of them.
Still it will probably cause him some trouble.

 

[postman]

Trump wasn't elected to say things, he was elected to do things. So far so good. He is tackling items that have been on the conservative agenda for decades, Dept. Of Education, USAID, deporting illegal aliens, yet some conservatives are caught up on this Epstein thing? Those folks might want to reevaluate their priorities.

Clearly Trump promised them half of the Latin: panem et circenses

 

[Independent thinker]

Trump Goes Off On His Own MAGA Base: 'I Don’t Want Their Support Anymore!'

The president accused his supporters of buying into "bulls**t."

uk.yahoo.com

I would post the post from Truth Social, but in pure "I want this platform to be free speech", you need to sign in or create an account just to see him posts, and I can't be bothered. So I got it from somewhere else.

“Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump said. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.”

"“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!” Trump added."

Now, we all remember the "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" quote, where he basically told his supporters how stupid they were, way back before he became president, how will they take this one, being told they're former supporters of his and he doesn't like them any more because they want the Epstein files released.

Will they turn on him, or just call it a joke, like they've done so many times in the past?

A bit hard to ignore this one, but that's what I thought before too.

So, now you support MAGA?

 

[Rogue AI]

He was ELECTED on releasing these files, naming names, and people wanted arrests. Don't tell me people should "reevaluate" priorities, when protecting the children of this country should be number one.

Hardly, that wasn't even a top ten item on the list of the issues most important to Americans.

 

[justoffal]

any case can go to the SCOTUS

He's holding on to his position like a teddy bear.
Anyone with an honest mind knows that the New York case involving E. Jean Carroll... Was a legal farce. It will not be difficult for a decent group of federally versed lawyers to come up with a dozen potential Federal issues with this horrible legal travesty. The reason New York is moving so slowly on it is that once the appeals process has been exhausted it then qualifies for application to the supreme Court.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Hardly, that wasn't even a top ten item on the list of the issues most important to Americans.

Why are you fine with him gaslighting, and lying to his supporters?

 

[berg80]

Trump Goes Off On His Own MAGA Base: 'I Don’t Want Their Support Anymore!'

The president accused his supporters of buying into "bulls**t."

uk.yahoo.com

I would post the post from Truth Social, but in pure "I want this platform to be free speech", you need to sign in or create an account just to see him posts, and I can't be bothered. So I got it from somewhere else.

“Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump said. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.”

"“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!” Trump added."

Now, we all remember the "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" quote, where he basically told his supporters how stupid they were, way back before he became president, how will they take this one, being told they're former supporters of his and he doesn't like them any more because they want the Epstein files released.

Will they turn on him, or just call it a joke, like they've done so many times in the past?

A bit hard to ignore this one, but that's what I thought before too.

He called them stupid. Kettle........black. Is it enough for them to forsake their unconditional love? Let's hope so.

 

[Mac-7]

Aren't you one of the posters on here that have railed against pedo groomers in the past? Now, you're turning the other cheek? Gotta love a maga.

I can see where you are coming from and its not pretty

Your fixation on trump causes you to hope against hope that there is damning evidence being covered up that would bring your No 1 boogyman down and end his presidency

Thats highly unlikely

Its been 20 or 30 years since trump was in Epstein’s circle

And I think trump was too smart to let Epstein get his hooks to the future president

But there are captains of society that rubbed elbows with Epstein from both major parties

Some surely did engage in sex with underage prostitutes but I dont think the files can single out who they are or expunge others who did not go that far

Going back as far as the Lincoln assassination and continuing up till recent times government has withheld information from the public that it deemed too explosive for the public good

This may be one of those times

 

[postman]

He called them stupid. Kettle........black. Is it enough for them to forsake their unconditional love? Let's hope so.

They were wise when they listened to what Trump said at his rallies.

But they were stupid, when they listened to what Trump said at his rallies.

 

[Rogue AI]

Why are you fine with him gaslighting, and lying to his supporters?

I prefer Trump focus on important issues like the ones listed above, not the some case of a dead guy that is and always was a convoluted mess wrapped in conspiracy theories and speculation. Tackling illegal aliens and controlling the border protects more American children from drugs, traffickers, and other criminal scum. Again, you might want to rethink your priorities here.

 

[Blisterfinger]

There is nothing for the left to "try".....Trump is turning against the MAGA simps that dare to question him.

Trump is doing exactly what I would want him to do. MAGA

 

[JLW]

Trump is a unique politician in that he can openly disparage his supporters and they will support him even more. I can't say we have ever had a politician who can call his biggest supporters "weaklings," "stupid," and "gullible," and his poll numbers actually rise among that group.

It seems to be a form of battered wife syndrome or some kind of massive psychosis for a Daddy figure.

I don't know what it is, but it is freakish.