Trump Tells Congressional Leaders Millions Of ‘Illegals’ Cost Him Popular Vote

[leftwinger]

What kind of country prints ballots in 17 launguages? CA does......or do I heard.

DL to illegals......no longer a problem. Insurance? Lol?

 

[Care4all]

The immigrants in Florida handed Trump the election? Without florida, he would not have won....

I guess one could simply say that, eh? Without any proof, eh? I mean, why not just say anything at all that you believe, without any proof?

Well, math would tell you that if he lost Florida he still would have won the election ...

well, true, but that wouldn't affect the illegal popular vote that he got from them...

 

[Care4all]

first off illegal AND LEGAL Immigrants on green cards can not vote legally, only citizens.

10% of the popular vote were Hispanic Americans in this election...what percentage of that 10% do you trumpsters believe were legal and illegal immigrants voting illegally? 1%? 2%? 5%?

 

[Mustang]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Because the majority of humans wouldn't illegally come to America, then vote for someone vowing to deport them?

If widespread voter fraud was possible, it would be far easier for Americans to vote fraudulently than it would be for illegal aliens to vote fraudulently. Aside from that, illegal aliens would have a fear of trying to cast an illegal vote that Americans wouldn't have. It's called deportation. As such, they have more incentive to try to stay under the radar.

Don't worry, Obama assured them that they wouldn't be investigated for voting illegally. Remember? There are also states that don't require voter ID, and California even passed a law making it easier for said illegals to vote.

ON that topic, you didn't answer my post at all, which debunked your argument entirely. Explain, why would Illegals vote for someone vowing to deport them? Explain. Elaborate. Or was your argument SO weak that all you could do was deflect?

Guess what? The federal gov't doesn't control the election process; it's run by the states.

What I said was this: If widespread voter fraud was possible, why would anyone believe that it would overwhelmingly benefit the loser and not the winner when the Republicans controlled most of the States AND the Republicans won all branches of gov't? It doesn't pass the smell test.

Trump was specifically referring to illegal aliens voting, not generic voter fraud.

However, you know Democrats cheat more than Republicans, we know that because you keep fighting any effort to stop cheating

So, we're supposed to believe that if widespread voter fraud was actually possible, 3-5 million illegal aliens out of approximately 12 million illegal aliens in America would actually engage in voter fraud despite a fear of deportation, but few if any Americans out of about 230 million eligible voters would engage in the same practice? That's utter nonsense.

Aside from that, Republicans have been trying to game the electoral system for years through gerrymandering, voter suppression, reducing the number of polling places in poorer neighborhoods, and pushing for voter IDs that approve IDs overwhelmingly owned by conservatives (like gun registrations) while disallowing IDs (like school IDs) which are more likely to be used by people who are liberal. So, we're supposed to believe that if widespread voter fraud was possible, conservatives wouldn't engage in it if and when there's little if any chance of being caught? That's equally nonsensical.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I almost feel sorry for his press secretary. I noticed today that he no longer tries to argue Trump's position. He simply states, "Yes, Trump believes that". It keeps him from being a liar, but not from being humiliated.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Becsuse they came from California and were all for Hillary.

 

[Mustang]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Becsuse they came from California and were all for Hillary.

To my knowledge, NOBODY has produced any evidence of voter fraud at all, let alone where it supposedly took place.

 

[kaz]

Because the majority of humans wouldn't illegally come to America, then vote for someone vowing to deport them?

If widespread voter fraud was possible, it would be far easier for Americans to vote fraudulently than it would be for illegal aliens to vote fraudulently. Aside from that, illegal aliens would have a fear of trying to cast an illegal vote that Americans wouldn't have. It's called deportation. As such, they have more incentive to try to stay under the radar.

Don't worry, Obama assured them that they wouldn't be investigated for voting illegally. Remember? There are also states that don't require voter ID, and California even passed a law making it easier for said illegals to vote.

ON that topic, you didn't answer my post at all, which debunked your argument entirely. Explain, why would Illegals vote for someone vowing to deport them? Explain. Elaborate. Or was your argument SO weak that all you could do was deflect?

Guess what? The federal gov't doesn't control the election process; it's run by the states.

What I said was this: If widespread voter fraud was possible, why would anyone believe that it would overwhelmingly benefit the loser and not the winner when the Republicans controlled most of the States AND the Republicans won all branches of gov't? It doesn't pass the smell test.

Trump was specifically referring to illegal aliens voting, not generic voter fraud.

However, you know Democrats cheat more than Republicans, we know that because you keep fighting any effort to stop cheating

So, we're supposed to believe that if widespread voter fraud was actually possible, 3-5 million illegal aliens out of approximately 12 million illegal aliens in America would actually engage in voter fraud despite a fear of deportation, but few if any Americans out of about 230 million eligible voters would engage in the same practice? That's utter nonsense.

Aside from that, Republicans have been trying to game the electoral system for years through gerrymandering, voter suppression, reducing the number of polling places in poorer neighborhoods, and pushing for voter IDs that approve IDs overwhelmingly owned by conservatives (like gun registrations) while disallowing IDs (like school IDs) which are more likely to be used by people who are liberal. So, we're supposed to believe that if widespread voter fraud was possible, conservatives wouldn't engage in it if and when there's little if any chance of being caught? That's equally nonsensical.

I told you what Trump actually said since you didn't understand it

 

[Mustang]

If widespread voter fraud was possible, it would be far easier for Americans to vote fraudulently than it would be for illegal aliens to vote fraudulently. Aside from that, illegal aliens would have a fear of trying to cast an illegal vote that Americans wouldn't have. It's called deportation. As such, they have more incentive to try to stay under the radar.

Don't worry, Obama assured them that they wouldn't be investigated for voting illegally. Remember? There are also states that don't require voter ID, and California even passed a law making it easier for said illegals to vote.

ON that topic, you didn't answer my post at all, which debunked your argument entirely. Explain, why would Illegals vote for someone vowing to deport them? Explain. Elaborate. Or was your argument SO weak that all you could do was deflect?

Guess what? The federal gov't doesn't control the election process; it's run by the states.

What I said was this: If widespread voter fraud was possible, why would anyone believe that it would overwhelmingly benefit the loser and not the winner when the Republicans controlled most of the States AND the Republicans won all branches of gov't? It doesn't pass the smell test.

Trump was specifically referring to illegal aliens voting, not generic voter fraud.

However, you know Democrats cheat more than Republicans, we know that because you keep fighting any effort to stop cheating

So, we're supposed to believe that if widespread voter fraud was actually possible, 3-5 million illegal aliens out of approximately 12 million illegal aliens in America would actually engage in voter fraud despite a fear of deportation, but few if any Americans out of about 230 million eligible voters would engage in the same practice? That's utter nonsense.

Aside from that, Republicans have been trying to game the electoral system for years through gerrymandering, voter suppression, reducing the number of polling places in poorer neighborhoods, and pushing for voter IDs that approve IDs overwhelmingly owned by conservatives (like gun registrations) while disallowing IDs (like school IDs) which are more likely to be used by people who are liberal. So, we're supposed to believe that if widespread voter fraud was possible, conservatives wouldn't engage in it if and when there's little if any chance of being caught? That's equally nonsensical.

I told you what Trump actually said since you didn't understand it

Oh, I understood perfectly. I also understand that he's offered absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support that claim. And guess what? One man's unsupported contention wouldn't carry much if any weight in a court of law.

However, if someone contends that widespread voter fraud is possible, is it logical to believe that only non-citizens would engage in it, especially in such high numbers relative to their numbers in this country while few if any American citizens would engage in the same practice despite outnumbering illegal aliens 20 to 1?

That makes about as much sense as contending that even though manufacturing, transporting, and selling illegal drugs in America is extremely profitable, only illegal aliens do so.

 

[Faun]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Because the majority of humans wouldn't illegally come to America, then vote for someone vowing to deport them?

If widespread voter fraud was possible, it would be far easier for Americans to vote fraudulently than it would be for illegal aliens to vote fraudulently. Aside from that, illegal aliens would have a fear of trying to cast an illegal vote that Americans wouldn't have. It's called deportation. As such, they have more incentive to try to stay under the radar.

Don't worry, Obama assured them that they wouldn't be investigated for voting illegally. Remember? There are also states that don't require voter ID, and California even passed a law making it easier for said illegals to vote.

It amazes me to see there are still idiots out there propagating that nonsense. In reality, Obama told a U.S. citizen, immigration would not come after illegal family members, pointed out that illegals can't legally vote, and twice promoted a website which states voters must be U.S. citizens.

 

[Faun]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Becsuse they came from California and were all for Hillary.

To my knowledge, NOBODY has produced any evidence of voter fraud at all, let alone where it supposedly took place.

I recall at least one person arrested for voter fraud.

Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

 

[Clementine]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Of course, it would make total sense for them to vote for someone who intends to deport them and prevent re-entry by securing the border. Obama directly told illegals they could vote and that no one would check. There is video proof of him telling them that. That means that Obama knew they'd support Trump and he wanted Hillary to lose. Seriously, you are onto something here.

 

[Faun]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Of course, it would make total sense for them to vote for someone who intends to deport them and prevent re-entry by securing the border. Obama directly told illegals they could vote and that no one would check. There is video proof of him telling them that. That means that Obama knew they'd support Trump and he wanted Hillary to lose. Seriously, you are onto something here.

Holyfuckingshit!

Obama never said that.

In that video, Obama told a U.S. citizen that immigration would not come after her family members here illegally, pointed out that illegals can't legally vote, and twice promoted a website which states voters must be U.S. citizens.

 

[Mustang]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Becsuse they came from California and were all for Hillary.

To my knowledge, NOBODY has produced any evidence of voter fraud at all, let alone where it supposedly took place.

I recall at least one person arrested for voter fraud.

Trump supporter charged with voting twice in Iowa

Yeah, I know that over a period of several years, there have been a handful of reported cases. That's a far cry from several millions in one election cycle.

Likewise, some people point to the fact that there are deceased people on the voter rolls, and there are people registered in more than one state. However, the occam's razor explanation for that isn't complicated at all. People die, and people move.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Of course, it would make total sense for them to vote for someone who intends to deport them and prevent re-entry by securing the border. Obama directly told illegals they could vote and that no one would check. There is video proof of him telling them that. That means that Obama knew they'd support Trump and he wanted Hillary to lose. Seriously, you are onto something here.

Holyfuckingshit!

Obama never said that.

In that video, Obama told a U.S. citizen that immigration would not come after her family members here illegally, pointed out that illegals can't legally vote, and twice promoted a website which states voters must be U.S. citizens.

And made a point of saying that no one would know if they did vote.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Trump is probably correct. Votes cast by wetbacks constitute voter fraud.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

California would not investigate. Cities and counties already want illegals to vote in local elections which is all they control.

 

[Faun]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Of course, it would make total sense for them to vote for someone who intends to deport them and prevent re-entry by securing the border. Obama directly told illegals they could vote and that no one would check. There is video proof of him telling them that. That means that Obama knew they'd support Trump and he wanted Hillary to lose. Seriously, you are onto something here.

Holyfuckingshit!

Obama never said that.

In that video, Obama told a U.S. citizen that immigration would not come after her family members here illegally, pointed out that illegals can't legally vote, and twice promoted a website which states voters must be U.S. citizens.

And made a point of saying that no one would know if they did vote.

No, he didn't. He told a U.S. citizen, as a citizen herself, she need not worry about immigration coming after her undocumented family members if she, a U.S. citizen herself, were to vote. He continues to tell her Latino U.S. citizens should vote because their undocumented family members and friends are not allowed to vote. Even more to the point, he twice promoted a website with voting information and encouraged folks to check it out. Among other useful bits of information, the website states voters must be U.S. citizens.

 

[Faun]

Trump is probably correct. Votes cast by wetbacks constitute voter fraud.

Of course they do. Be sure to let the forum know when you find one, no less, 3,000,000.

 

[Clementine]

...how do we know that those illegal voters didn't hand Trump the election?

Of course, it would make total sense for them to vote for someone who intends to deport them and prevent re-entry by securing the border. Obama directly told illegals they could vote and that no one would check. There is video proof of him telling them that. That means that Obama knew they'd support Trump and he wanted Hillary to lose. Seriously, you are onto something here.

Holyfuckingshit!

Obama never said that.

In that video, Obama told a U.S. citizen that immigration would not come after her family members here illegally, pointed out that illegals can't legally vote, and twice promoted a website which states voters must be U.S. citizens.

And made a point of saying that no one would know if they did vote.

No, he didn't. He told a U.S. citizen, as a citizen herself, she need not worry about immigration coming after her undocumented family members if she, a U.S. citizen herself, were to vote. He continues to tell her Latino U.S. citizens should vote because their undocumented family members and friends are not allowed to vote. Even more to the point, he twice promoted a website with voting information and encouraged folks to check it out. Among other useful bits of information, the website states voters must be U.S. citizens.

She asked about the 'dreamers', undocumented citizens. She said she considers them citizens because they contribute to society. She was specifically talking about illegal aliens and saying they were fearful of voting. Obama assured her that no voting records are turned over and no one would come after them.

Obama was, in fact, telling these dreamers aka illegal aliens that they need not fear voting. If a citizen votes, there is nothing to worry about. She was worried about whether ICE would know where she lives. If she were a citizen, why would that matter? She was specific in saying that illegals were fearful of getting caught for voting.