Trump starts his book bans. MAGA

[hadit]

If it was already in the library it's already underwent a review.

Exactly. This guy is all up in arms screeching about a book ban that simply doesn't exist and won't.

 

[pknopp]

Exactly. This guy is all up in arms screeching about a book ban that simply doesn't exist and won't.

Banning books does exist. Leave it up to the local school boards.

 

[hadit]

Banning books does exist. Leave it up to the local school boards.

As I've been saying, however, simply not stocking a particular book in a children's library doesn't amount to a ban on the book, any more than Field and Stream magazine is banned because children's libraries don't keep it on the shelves.

 

[pknopp]

As I've been saying, however, simply not stocking a particular book in a children's library doesn't amount to a ban on the book, any more than Field and Stream magazine is banned because children's libraries don't keep it on the shelves.

 

[pknopp]

As I've been saying, however, simply not stocking a particular book in a children's library doesn't amount to a ban on the book, any more than Field and Stream magazine is banned because children's libraries don't keep it on the shelves.

When the book is on the shelves and then removed by the government, that is a ban on that book.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

When the book is on the shelves and then removed by the government, that is a ban on that book.

Of course it isn't. If you want your child to have access to pornography go buy the book. It's readily available. The government is not obligated to provide your child with porn.

 

[hadit]

When the book is on the shelves and then removed by the government, that is a ban on that book.

It's the government's libraries we're talking about, is it not? They're not going into privately run libraries and taking the book out, are they?

I call it a ban when you're not allowed to purchase or read the book and/or all known copies are destroyed. Short of that, it's simply an entity choosing not to stock it. In this case, nothing is stopping parents who think the book is important for their children to read from purchasing it themselves and giving it to their children. To me, a ban would be making it illegal for parents to do so.

It's just an inflammatory phrase flung around to make people think the Reich is back, burning books and imprisoning writers.

 

[pknopp]

It's the government's libraries we're talking about, is it not?

That's certainly not how I see it. You see it as government owned and I see it as people owned.

They're not going into privately run libraries and taking the book out, are they?

Maybe not in this case no, but in other cases, yes.

I call it a ban when you're not allowed to purchase or read the book and/or all known copies are destroyed. Short of that, it's simply an entity choosing not to stock it. In this case, nothing is stopping parents who think the book is important for their children to read from purchasing it themselves and giving it to their children. To me, a ban would be making it illegal for parents to do so.

It's just an inflammatory phrase flung around to make people think the Reich is back, burning books and imprisoning writers.

No, it's when Musk goes on his salute tours that people claim that.

 

[hadit]

That's certainly not how I see it. You see it as government owned and I see it as people owned.

The schools are for the children of the military. The government is involved.

Maybe not in this case no, but in other cases, yes.

We're discussing this case, not others.

No, it's when Musk goes on his salute tours that people claim that.

While that's an irrelevant sidestep, it is interesting that you should cite another case of deliberate hysterical overreaction to a nothing burger.

The bottom line here seems to be a disagreement between those who think that society should have the right to decide what content it should make freely available to children and those who apparently don't.

 

[pknopp]

The schools are for the children of the military. The government is involved.

Still owned by the people.

We're discussing this case, not others.

While that's an irrelevant sidestep, it is interesting that you should cite another case of deliberate hysterical overreaction to a nothing burger.

The bottom line here seems to be a disagreement between those who think that society should have the right to decide what content it should make freely available to children and those who apparently don't.

Leave it to local school systems.

 

[hadit]

Still owned by the people.


Leave it to local school systems.

And that's fine until a local school board dictates that only books laudatory about the Confederacy or critical of the Obama presidency are allowed in the libraries. Then all of a sudden, the usual suspects want the federal government to step in to stop them.

 

[pknopp]

And that's fine until a local school board dictates that only books laudatory about the Confederacy or critical of the Obama presidency are allowed in the libraries. Then all of a sudden, the usual suspects want the federal government to step in to stop them.

I can't recall that ever happening.

 

[hadit]

I can't recall that ever happening.

It's an exaggerated example, but you know that there are school boards in some southern states that would take steps that would have liberals' heads explode, and suddenly this pressure to keep the federal government out of picking books for children evaporates.

 

[pknopp]

It's an exaggerated example, but you know that there are school boards in some southern states that would take steps that would have liberals' heads explode, and suddenly this pressure to keep the federal government out of picking books for children evaporates.

I've never argued for the federal government get involved in books.

Now in an exaggerated example, if those who wish to line their libraries with say white supremacist literature starts violating the people's civil rights the discussion changes.

 

[hadit]

I've never argued for the federal government get involved in books.

Now in an exaggerated example, if those who wish to line their libraries with say white supremacist literature starts violating the people's civil rights the discussion changes.

That's the risk we run giving the people actual authority. Freedom is messy, chaotic, dangerous and requires maturity to maintain. It's also preferable.

I agree that those in authority need to decide what is appropriate for children UNDER THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. It would be ideal for that to be pushed to the lowest level, but as we can see, that CAN lead to situations some find intolerable.

 

[Rambunctious]

A ‘great shock’: Julianne Moore’s children’s book under review by Trump administration

The actor’s book Freckleface Strawberry is on a list of library books suspended for a ‘compliance review’ after a presidential executive order

www.theguardian.com

So this dangerous book is by noted commie Jalieanne Moore. It follows a young girl who hates her freclkes but learns to live with them. Along the way she stops going to church and learns how to give a good blow job to truckers in a local car park.

The proceeds of which she uses to buy drugs from an illegal tranny. Not really.

It never stops does it ?

Your link says her book is under review not banned... words mean things dude... use them correctly or all you are doing is lying... if her book hints about gender questions we don't want it in school library's....
let it be found at a public library or book store or Amazon... all places you can still find it at so its not banned...

 

[Rambunctious]

THIS BOOK IS NOT BANNED Tommy Tainant is a ******* liar...

 

[Tommy Tainant]

THIS BOOK IS NOT BANNED Tommy Tainant is a ******* liar...

Why is it "under review" ? Do you know ?

 

[Rawley]

Maga abuse when we reach the limits of their meagre understanding.

Should we stop holding our breaths waiting for you to provide a list of the books Trump has banned?

 

[Rambunctious]

Why is it "under review" ? Do you know ?

Because it was categorized as a book that delves into gender change... if it is cleared in review it will be on the school library shelves... but its not banned so your thread title is a lie.... isn't it?...
The tranny movement said they would not involve children into the conversation... they lied and so now they will pay the price by being forced away from our kids....