Trump shafts the coal country Trumpbots.

[12icer]

Coal is booming for two basic reasons...

1. It's clean
2. It blows the alternatives out of the water....

You must be smoking some of that coal to bleev that bullshit.

What bullshit child?

You started your post with a false premise: Coal is not booming. It's declining.

And it is getting blown out of the water by natural gas. See posts 24, 42, and 45, rube.

Oh my friend, but it is.....what type of engineer are you?

This is a retard's idea of "booming":

U.S. coal exports declined 23% in 2015, as coal imports remained steady - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

U.S. Coal Mine Closures Continue - Institute for Energy Economics & Financial Analysis

Coal's demise threatens Appalachian miners, firms as production moves West

How stupid can one person be? Cause and effect analysis is NOT one of your strong suits is it?

 

[owebo]

Natural gas, not regulation. Retard.

You lose, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO TRUE. maybe you should ask someone who knows what they are talking about. OH if orgot you learned form oshit and shitbith what truth means.

Unlike you retards, I have provided evidence for every one of my claims.

Try your delusions out on someone stupid enough to bleev them.

If,only,you had a clue and not depended on huffypooh to think for you....

 

[g5000]

U.S. Power Mix: Gas Replacing Coal Faster Than Expected

 

[Missourian]

Automation? You have no idea what you're taking about. I'm from coal country. My grandfather was a coal miner and two of my cousins are mine engineers. Automation has NOTHING to do with it. Obama regulation is 100% to blame.

BWA-HA-HA-HA!

What a sap you are. It has nothing to do with regulation, and everything to do with cheaper natural gas.

Cheap Natural Gas To Spark Another Wave Of Coal Plant Retirements

“Cheap natural gas is killing coal.” While that headline has been written dozens of times over the last few years, it continues to be true. In fact, natural gas has become even cheaper over the past year, and the slow death of coal is poised to accelerate.

Cheaper Natural Gas Lets Nucor Factory Rise Again on Bayou

Lower-priced natural gas has energized many parts of the country and the economy. Chemical and fertilizer companies, which use gas as both a feedstock and energy source, say lower prices have reduced costs and made the U.S. a more competitive manufacturing location.

Market Trends — Electricity

The relatively low cost of natural gas makes the dispatching of existing natural gas plants more competitive with coal plants and, in combination with relatively low capital costs, makes plants fueled by natural gas an alternative choice for new generation capacity.

U.S. forecasts natural gas boom through 2040

America's energy boom will continue for decades, and natural gas will replace coal as the largest source of U.S. electricity by 2035, the Department of Energy forecast today.

You can't be this stupid. Ever see a LNG carrier shipping natural gas across the ocean? Not cheap. On the other hand, any cargo ship can carry coal...and that was exactly what was happening...U.S. exports its greenhouse-gas emissions — as coal. Profitable coal.

...until OBAMA REGULATION struck again.

U.S. Strikes Deal to Block Coal Plants Worldwide

Now, what were you saying again, butthurt Hillaryite?

Coal exports are only 7 percent of what we mine, dumbass.

And then there's this:

How much coal does the U.S. export and import? | American Geosciences Institute

Coal exports have decreased since 2012 as U.S. coal production has declined, mostly because cheaper natural gas has decreased the demand for coal as a fuel for electricity generation

Natural gas, not regulation. Retard.

Again, due to regulation.

Army Corps of Engineers blocks giant coal export terminal at Cherry Point

US extends crackdown on coal overseas

Coal Exports Contradict Obama’s Climate Pledge, Critics Say

Obama announces moratorium on new federal coal leases

If natural gas was actually killing coal, Obama wouldn't have to do anything. The fact that he works so hard to kill coal totally undermines your argument. If you were smarter, you would have seen that.

 

[g5000]

Natural gas, not regulation. Retard.

You lose, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO TRUE. maybe you should ask someone who knows what they are talking about. OH if orgot you learned form oshit and shitbith what truth means.

Unlike you retards, I have provided evidence for every one of my claims.

Try your delusions out on someone stupid enough to bleev them.

If,only,you had a clue and not depended on huffypooh to think for you....

Not one of my links was to HuffPo, you poor delusional kid.

Most were to industry sites.

Retard.

 

[g5000]

Automation? You have no idea what you're taking about. I'm from coal country. My grandfather was a coal miner and two of my cousins are mine engineers. Automation has NOTHING to do with it. Obama regulation is 100% to blame.

BWA-HA-HA-HA!

What a sap you are. It has nothing to do with regulation, and everything to do with cheaper natural gas.

Cheap Natural Gas To Spark Another Wave Of Coal Plant Retirements

“Cheap natural gas is killing coal.” While that headline has been written dozens of times over the last few years, it continues to be true. In fact, natural gas has become even cheaper over the past year, and the slow death of coal is poised to accelerate.

Cheaper Natural Gas Lets Nucor Factory Rise Again on Bayou

Lower-priced natural gas has energized many parts of the country and the economy. Chemical and fertilizer companies, which use gas as both a feedstock and energy source, say lower prices have reduced costs and made the U.S. a more competitive manufacturing location.

Market Trends — Electricity

The relatively low cost of natural gas makes the dispatching of existing natural gas plants more competitive with coal plants and, in combination with relatively low capital costs, makes plants fueled by natural gas an alternative choice for new generation capacity.

U.S. forecasts natural gas boom through 2040

America's energy boom will continue for decades, and natural gas will replace coal as the largest source of U.S. electricity by 2035, the Department of Energy forecast today.

You can't be this stupid. Ever see a LNG carrier shipping natural gas across the ocean? Not cheap. On the other hand, any cargo ship can carry coal...and that was exactly what was happening...U.S. exports its greenhouse-gas emissions — as coal. Profitable coal.

...until OBAMA REGULATION struck again.

U.S. Strikes Deal to Block Coal Plants Worldwide

Now, what were you saying again, butthurt Hillaryite?

Coal exports are only 7 percent of what we mine, dumbass.

And then there's this:

How much coal does the U.S. export and import? | American Geosciences Institute

Coal exports have decreased since 2012 as U.S. coal production has declined, mostly because cheaper natural gas has decreased the demand for coal as a fuel for electricity generation

Natural gas, not regulation. Retard.

Again, due to regulation.

Army Corps of Engineers blocks giant coal export terminal at Cherry Point

US extends crackdown on coal overseas

Coal Exports Contradict Obama’s Climate Pledge, Critics Say

Obama announces moratorium on new federal coal leases

If natural gas was actually killing coal, Obama wouldn't have to do anything. The fact that he works so hard to kill coal totally undermines your argument. If you were smarter, you would have seen that.

The hippies have been working just as hard to stop LNG terminals, retard.

Indigenous land defenders block LNG terminal construction

Congressmen make move to block Fall River LNG terminal

 

[owebo]

Natural gas, not regulation. Retard.

You lose, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO TRUE. maybe you should ask someone who knows what they are talking about. OH if orgot you learned form oshit and shitbith what truth means.

Unlike you retards, I have provided evidence for every one of my claims.

Try your delusions out on someone stupid enough to bleev them.

If,only,you had a clue and not depended on huffypooh to think for you....

Not one of my links was to HuffPo, you poor delusional kid.

Most were to industry sites.

Retard.

Your argument is even too stupid for huffypooh.....

 

[Lakhota]

Well, this should tell us something more about the mentality of coal lovers who supported Trump - not realizing all the ramifications to their lives. As with many issues - they voted against themselves once again. Trump's "poorly educated" came through for him.

Pennsylvania is coal country...not that I expect you soft handed liberals to know that. Tell them how stupid they are, I'm sure they will be just raring to vote for you in the future.

Coal is dying for two basic reasons:
1. It's dirty.
2. It can't compete with alternatives.

Coal is booming for two basic reasons...

1. It's clean
2. It blows the alternatives out of the water....

Funny. Only a liar or retard would believe such nonsense! You have zero credibility! Never trust a rabbit holding a pistol.

What type of engineer are you?

I'm not an engineer - but I'm an MBA who has been the Manager of Purchasing, Contracts, and Warehousing for a major coal-burning electric utility. Ever heard of Dominion Resources? BTW, my son is an engineer and I've worked closely with many for several years. I was also born and raised in coal country. That's why I know you're either a liar or retard - maybe both.

 

[owebo]

U.S. Power Mix: Gas Replacing Coal Faster Than Expected

Democrats war on coal,will do that....

It,will be over in 3 weeks...you lost....

 

[g5000]

Natural gas power plants replacing coal around country

 

[g5000]

You'll see.

Trump won't be able to save those coal jobs, and it won't be long before his Chumps are dead silent about it.

Book it.

 

[owebo]

Pennsylvania is coal country...not that I expect you soft handed liberals to know that. Tell them how stupid they are, I'm sure they will be just raring to vote for you in the future.

Coal is dying for two basic reasons:
1. It's dirty.
2. It can't compete with alternatives.

Coal is booming for two basic reasons...

1. It's clean
2. It blows the alternatives out of the water....

Funny. Only a liar or retard would believe such nonsense! You have zero credibility! Never trust a rabbit holding a pistol.

What type of engineer are you?

I'm not an engineer - but I'm an MBA who has been the Manager of Purchasing, Contracts, and Warehousing for a major coal-burning electric utility. Ever heard of Dominion Resources? BTW, my son is an engineer and I've worked closely with many for several years. I was also born and raised in coal country. That's why I know you're either a liar or retard - maybe both.

That's funny.....

No wonder you're a democrat....

 

[blackhawk]

It's not like Trump wanting to get rid of Obamacare was big secret I think he said it at every rally and interview he did.

 

[owebo]

You'll see.

Trump won't be able to save those coal jobs, and it won't be long before his Chumps are dead silent about it.

Book it.

They are already saved.....you lost.....

 

[12icer]

Yes I worked in the rail industry, for years and we ran coal trains from the powder river basin to Southeastern, Georgia and Florida power. AND WE SAW EVERY regulation written SPECIFICALLY to destroy the coal fired power industry AND close the coal mines that were producing even though (A lot of my family works in TVA power shops, and at the Coal plants) they were producing MORE KWH per dollar than any other type of Fuel based producers. So you can hunt liberal controlled ass licking lies all day, but WE know the TRUTH, something you can never deal with. The Coal miners are not the only Losers of jobs by your dogshit messiahs Global warming lie, It extends to thousands of different trades, Monoplanic, and caused the loss of ten times more workers than just the Miners. It is real low intellect liberals that keep shit like them in power as they rob the public. So your graph exports show to be down, Now why would I try to find a reason for that HMMMMM, If you don't mine something how would you be able to export it HMMMMMM. I guess you would also need to import more TOO.

 

[Lakhota]

It's not like Trump wanting to get rid of Obamacare was big secret I think he said it at every rally and interview he did.

Yes, and he also said he would replace Obamacare with something better. Is his replacement floating around in outer space like his plan to defeat ISIS?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I remember growing up in a small town in Western Colorado where the snow was black. Anyone with any type of lung problems had to move out of the area. Small children had to be kept indoors when it got bad. It was from the local Sugar Beet Factory. They were told that they had to go to Natural Gas to stay in business so they tore out all the coal feeders from the burners (they melted them down) and installed Natural Gas Jets. Then Natural Gas went sky high for a few years and they said they couldn't stay in business. In order to keep using Coal, they had to install the proper scrubbers that made Coal unprofitable. The Factory closed down and it devistated the community. It was the main source of income and labor. Today, the town has about the same population and the air is fit to breath. England and China have yet to figure that out and you can see what it's doing both places.

The only way that coal is viable is if the proper scrubbers are used.

I will say this is a good post, Where I grew up it was the same. Coal has to be burned in an efficient way to be viable, But the BTU return per dollar is better than any fuel. The waste also has to be handled properly. The coal from Powder river absin is some of the cleanest burning in the continental US with proper mixture it can be used with the eastern mined coal to achieve almost the same BTU and much less output of sulfur Dioxides too. The process of pulverizing the coal to minute particles and high pressure introduction and extreme burn temperatures made the burn much cleaner too. As stated the oshit-ma administration regulated the coal industry out, Probably so he could set up the "Green energy initiative" to funnel billions of taxpayer dollars to his comrades, and the dnc. slime ass gore took 100 million dollars (NET 98 good return on 2 mil) out of JUST one of the companies that got a billion or so when it went belly up as it was designed to do by the dnc and the government thieves in office. Don't you figure That paid the bill for all of the next elections and put lots in the pockets of the players.

It's more than that. You simplify it. It's not the powdering it that you have to worry about, it's the CO2, Sulphur Dioxide and Carbon it belches out the stacks. It takes Scrubbers to trap these and the Scrubbers are expensive to buy and maintain. When they find a cheap way to do that then coal takes over with a vengence. But not until then.

 

[owebo]

I remember growing up in a small town in Western Colorado where the snow was black. Anyone with any type of lung problems had to move out of the area. Small children had to be kept indoors when it got bad. It was from the local Sugar Beet Factory. They were told that they had to go to Natural Gas to stay in business so they tore out all the coal feeders from the burners (they melted them down) and installed Natural Gas Jets. Then Natural Gas went sky high for a few years and they said they couldn't stay in business. In order to keep using Coal, they had to install the proper scrubbers that made Coal unprofitable. The Factory closed down and it devistated the community. It was the main source of income and labor. Today, the town has about the same population and the air is fit to breath. England and China have yet to figure that out and you can see what it's doing both places.

The only way that coal is viable is if the proper scrubbers are used.

I will say this is a good post, Where I grew up it was the same. Coal has to be burned in an efficient way to be viable, But the BTU return per dollar is better than any fuel. The waste also has to be handled properly. The coal from Powder river absin is some of the cleanest burning in the continental US with proper mixture it can be used with the eastern mined coal to achieve almost the same BTU and much less output of sulfur Dioxides too. The process of pulverizing the coal to minute particles and high pressure introduction and extreme burn temperatures made the burn much cleaner too. As stated the oshit-ma administration regulated the coal industry out, Probably so he could set up the "Green energy initiative" to funnel billions of taxpayer dollars to his comrades, and the dnc. slime ass gore took 100 million dollars (NET 98 good return on 2 mil) out of JUST one of the companies that got a billion or so when it went belly up as it was designed to do by the dnc and the government thieves in office. Don't you figure That paid the bill for all of the next elections and put lots in the pockets of the players.

It's more than that. You simplify it. It's not the powdering it that you have to worry about, it's the CO2, Sulphur Dioxide and Carbon it belches out the stacks. It takes Scrubbers to trap these and the Scrubbers are expensive to buy and maintain. When they find a cheap way to do that then coal takes over with a vengence. But not until then.

CO2 regulations will cease to exist....PM2.5 will cease to exist....

Coal will rule....the democrat war on coal is over....

 

[Lakhota]

Just the mining of coal is polluting the environment - especially air and water. Mountaintop mining is an atrocity.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I remember growing up in a small town in Western Colorado where the snow was black. Anyone with any type of lung problems had to move out of the area. Small children had to be kept indoors when it got bad. It was from the local Sugar Beet Factory. They were told that they had to go to Natural Gas to stay in business so they tore out all the coal feeders from the burners (they melted them down) and installed Natural Gas Jets. Then Natural Gas went sky high for a few years and they said they couldn't stay in business. In order to keep using Coal, they had to install the proper scrubbers that made Coal unprofitable. The Factory closed down and it devistated the community. It was the main source of income and labor. Today, the town has about the same population and the air is fit to breath. England and China have yet to figure that out and you can see what it's doing both places.

The only way that coal is viable is if the proper scrubbers are used.

I will say this is a good post, Where I grew up it was the same. Coal has to be burned in an efficient way to be viable, But the BTU return per dollar is better than any fuel. The waste also has to be handled properly. The coal from Powder river absin is some of the cleanest burning in the continental US with proper mixture it can be used with the eastern mined coal to achieve almost the same BTU and much less output of sulfur Dioxides too. The process of pulverizing the coal to minute particles and high pressure introduction and extreme burn temperatures made the burn much cleaner too. As stated the oshit-ma administration regulated the coal industry out, Probably so he could set up the "Green energy initiative" to funnel billions of taxpayer dollars to his comrades, and the dnc. slime ass gore took 100 million dollars (NET 98 good return on 2 mil) out of JUST one of the companies that got a billion or so when it went belly up as it was designed to do by the dnc and the government thieves in office. Don't you figure That paid the bill for all of the next elections and put lots in the pockets of the players.

It's more than that. You simplify it. It's not the powdering it that you have to worry about, it's the CO2, Sulphur Dioxide and Carbon it belches out the stacks. It takes Scrubbers to trap these and the Scrubbers are expensive to buy and maintain. When they find a cheap way to do that then coal takes over with a vengence. But not until then.

CO2 regulations will cease to exist....PM2.5 will cease to exist....

Coal will rule....the democrat war on coal is over....

And we go back to the time when the air was fit to breath only a few days a month. I have seen the before and after shots of Pittsburg where it showed the 1950s V the 1980s. I doubt if the ones that live there want to go back to the "Good Old Days".