dudmuck
Diamond Member
keep it in contex, it was operation moonshot. He said we are going to cure cancer. the intent was to cut cancer in half by 2047.And Biden promised to cure cancer. Did you post about it when he failed?
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keep it in contex, it was operation moonshot. He said we are going to cure cancer. the intent was to cut cancer in half by 2047.And Biden promised to cure cancer. Did you post about it when he failed?
I mostly agree with this post.Yes tariff the things you want to bring back home. But remember, Trump can **** us with this. Example. He's got a wife who makes Christmas ornaments. Made In America. So he tariffs the shit out of China so no one can afford to buy ornaments from China. Then Melania comes in and charges $90 for a ******* star that you put on top of the tree.
Trump is right. America is doing great. Corporate America. What about us?
Electronics? Maybe. Let's discuss it and then strategically decide if we should bring this back.
Arguments For Reshoring
Arguments Against Reshoring/Challenges
- Supply Chain Resilience: Manufacturing domestically reduces reliance on complex, often vulnerable global supply chains, mitigating risks from geopolitical tensions, pandemics, or trade disruptions.
- National Security: A domestic manufacturing base for critical components like semiconductors is considered essential for national and economic security, ensuring the U.S. has a reliable supply for defense and other strategic industries.
- Innovation: Proximity between manufacturing facilities and research and development (R&D) centers fosters greater innovation and faster product development, allowing companies to leverage advancements in automation and AI more effectively.
- Quality Control & Oversight: Local production enables more stringent quality control, better communication, and closer oversight of the entire production process, reducing defects and ensuring products meet high standards.
- Job Creation: While modern factories are highly automated, an American manufacturing renaissance, particularly in high-tech sectors, would create skilled jobs in advanced technology, engineering, and construction, contributing to the domestic economy.
- Government Incentives: Legislation like the CHIPS and Science Act has already spurred billions of dollars in investments in semiconductor facilities, demonstrating strong government support for the move.
In summary, there is a strong strategic and national security argument for bringing back at least some critical electronics manufacturing, especially in high-tech areas like semiconductors. However, achieving this at a large scale for all types of electronics is complex and would require substantial investment, time, and a societal willingness to potentially pay more for "Made in America" products.
- Higher Costs & Consumer Prices: The U.S. has significantly higher labor costs and stricter regulations compared to traditional manufacturing hubs. These increased costs would likely be passed on to consumers as higher prices for electronic goods.
- Established Ecosystems: The existing global electronics supply chain, particularly in Asia, is an intricate web of specialized suppliers, infrastructure, and skilled labor developed over decades. Rebuilding this entire ecosystem in the U.S. would be a massive, time-consuming, and costly undertaking.
- Labor Shortages & Skills Gap: Finding tens of thousands of skilled workers for modern, highly automated manufacturing roles is a challenge. Many workers may require significant retraining for these new types of jobs.
- Infrastructure Limitations: Current U.S. infrastructure, including the electrical grid and logistics networks, may not be adequate to support a massive, sudden influx of new, large-scale manufacturing facilities.
- Risk of Trade Disruptions: Cutting off trade entirely with major partners like China could disrupt the design and marketing side of U.S. tech companies that rely on the vast Chinese consumer market for profits.
You mostly agree with a work of fiction?I mostly agree with this post.
He was scolding America for not praising him enoughIt was more of him bragging than scolding lol.
I agree it is something we should work towards.You mostly agree with a work of fiction?
And Obama's approval rating in Dec of his first year of his second terms was 38%. Your point?
You have a quote from Trump for that, or are you just quoting your cult's masters?He was scolding America for not praising him enough
He’s a fat, petulant man-child throwing a tantrum on national tv
When he was angrily shouting about his accomplishments was my first clueYou have a quote from Trump for that, or are you just quoting your cult's masters?
That was Biden, and they didIt's the dementia talking.
They should keep him away from microphones.
SO you don't have a quote. Didn't think so. Sad.When he was angrily shouting about his accomplishments was my first clue
They should keep Trump under wraps, tooThat was Biden, and they did
Trump is perfectly coherent.They should keep Trump under wraps, too
Enough with doddering old men with their fingers on the button
Time for a maximum age limit for being POTUS
He’s too old to be presidentTrump is perfectly coherent.
Perfectly coherentHe’s too old to be president
Who the **** cares about Biden anymore?^
Obvious projection.
Biden actually suffers from dementia.
Bullshit. It's almost constant now.Trump shows no signs of dementia
Who the **** cares about Biden anymore?and Biden shows all of them.
And Obama's approval rating in Dec of his first year of his second terms was 38%. Your point?
Not really, Trump is perfectly coherent. Doing exactly as I would likeBullshit. It's almost constant now.
Well it's not like we can't learn something from the biggest lie perpetrated on the American public ever. I suppose we could just gloss over it. You would like that.Who the **** cares about Biden anymore
He was scolding America for not praising him enough.
That is wrong. While Trumps approval is 35%, any Democrats approval number has to be considered as well. People will vote for who they think will do a better job and consider the lesser of two evils.