trump says there's "no price tag" for deportation.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Maybe most of them do work, at the jobs they have stolen from your friends and neighbors by working at grossly reduced wages with little or no benefits. These illegals, you love so much have already destroyed the wages within the construction industry, what's next? Your precious illegals also send BILLIONS of US dollars back to Mexico which harms our own economy. Also, those that don't work are living off the backs of our legal, tax-paying citizens. People like you are clueless and a danger to our future.

Its called capitalism, got a problem with it now?

 

[berg80]

The issue is a $150.7 billion one, shared between federal and state governments, and that's just one year.

Assuming that figure is correct, now figure in the roughly $1T cost of deportation, the loss of tax revenue to the government from those deported workers, and the inflationary effect of removing millions of workers from the workforce.

 

[imawhosure]

President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration​

President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration

The population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office.

www.cato.org

lol, I can post 100 links that show the opposite.

But, I am glad you AGREE we should close the border to protect our families. As an American, are you willing to help by turning the illegals in?

 

[excalibur]

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough. Now he'll be breaking up families who have lived here, yes illegally, for many years. I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.

Under an agreement entered into under Clinton. You people are so uneducated. The 'Flores' agreement. Duh.

In April 2018, the Trump administration implemented new guidelines as part of its "zero tolerance" policy toward illegal entry, in response to the rising number of illegal aliens showing up with their children at the southern border. Under these guidelines, the Justice Department prosecuted every border infiltrator for the crime of entry without inspection.

After detaining the parents, the government could either put the children in a shelter (due to legal prohibitions on keeping children in detention for over 20 days), or release the entire family into the interior of the country — "catch-and-release" — and hope that they don't simply disappear into the illegal immigrant population. The first of these two options has been decried by critics as one of "family separation".

To understand how this conundrum arose, one must learn the history of the Flores settlement agreement.

Digging into its history bolsters the theory that the Clinton administration was well aware of what it was doing when it signed the agreement, and may have shared more in common with the activist plaintiffs than originally thought with regard to loosening the rules governing asylum.​

The History of the Flores Settlement

Digging into the Flores settlement history bolsters the theory that the Clinton administration was well aware of what it was doing when it signed the agreement.

cis.org

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

People are dim, a far bigger cause of reduced earnings is not illegal aliens but legal immigration. I am a skilled technology worker and over the years corporations like Apple, Microsoft, Oracle and so on, all view for huge numbers of H1B visa quotas.

Then rather than pay US workers a suitable wage, they dilute the workforce and make it harder for us to earn as we once did.

The legal H1B quotas are limited but industry is always seeking more why? because it reduces costs for these companies by getting cheaper labor.

 

[berg80]

Mass Deportation​

Devastating Costs to America, Its Budget and Economy

Beyond the direct financial cost of mass deportation, we also estimated the impact on the U.S. economy. Due to the loss of workers across U.S. industries, we found that mass deportation would reduce the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) by 4.2 to 6.8 percent. It would also result in significant reduction in tax revenues for the U.S. government. In 2022 alone, undocumented immigrant households paid $46.8 billion in federal taxes and $29.3 billion in state and local taxes. Undocumented immigrants also contributed $22.6 billion to Social Security and $5.7 billion to Medicare.

Mass Deportation: Devastating Costs to America, Its Budget and Economy

The mass deportation of millions of undocumented individuals would be tremendously expensive and would have a catastrophic impact on our economy—one that would be expansive and impact every American. The American Immigration Council analyzes the fiscal costs and economic impacts of such a mass...

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

The more you learn the worse it gets.

 

[Dekster]

"We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful and, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country," he said. "And you know, I’m not somebody that says, 'No, you can’t come in.' We want people to come in."

As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."

Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan

In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Trump talked about his campaign promise to carry out the largest deportation of immigrants in U.S. history, regardless of cost.

www.nbcnews.com

And yet there is a price tag. Not only for the economy (removing that many workers is inflationary because it will drive up the price of labor. Plus it will reduce GDP), but for the government.

How much could it cost?​

Vice President-elect JD Vance has estimated Trump's actions could result in 1 million people being removed from the country each year, a pace the nonpartisan American Immigration Council estimated would cost about $88 billion annually. To deport all the people in the U.S. without authorization would take about a decade and cost nearly a trillion dollars, the council said.

Trump has promised mass deportations. Can he do it in his 2nd term as president?

Former President Donald Trump could be poised to deliver on one of his most fervent campaign promises: to deport millions of undocumented immigrants.

www.usatoday.com

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough. Now he'll be breaking up families who have lived here, yes illegally, for many years. I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.

Let them all go back to Honduras together if they don't want to be broken up.

 

[Rogue AI]

Mass Deportation​

Devastating Costs to America, Its Budget and Economy

Beyond the direct financial cost of mass deportation, we also estimated the impact on the U.S. economy. Due to the loss of workers across U.S. industries, we found that mass deportation would reduce the U.S. gross domestic product (GDP) by 4.2 to 6.8 percent. It would also result in significant reduction in tax revenues for the U.S. government. In 2022 alone, undocumented immigrant households paid $46.8 billion in federal taxes and $29.3 billion in state and local taxes. Undocumented immigrants also contributed $22.6 billion to Social Security and $5.7 billion to Medicare.

Mass Deportation: Devastating Costs to America, Its Budget and Economy

The mass deportation of millions of undocumented individuals would be tremendously expensive and would have a catastrophic impact on our economy—one that would be expansive and impact every American. The American Immigration Council analyzes the fiscal costs and economic impacts of such a mass...

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

The more you learn the worse it gets.

Yeah, that's a totally unbiased source. You loons are too much.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Let them all go back to Honduras together if they don't want to be broken up.

Sure, to face criminal gangs who are more heavily armed than our most armed law enforcement because 99% of the guns south of the border are facilitated by the US gun industry.

 

[Lisa558]

How much does it cost for illegals to leech off the taxpayers?

$150 billion a year.

Plus, what about their other detrimental effects? They ruin the public schools and property values where they live, drive up the cost of rents, and suppress wages.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Would I risk life and limb to get my family away from these people? Yes, I'd do almost anything to get into the US.

Yet we heard ZERO from Trump and his loyal MAGATS about reducing the supply of weapons across the border, not a peep. There's very clear evidence showing the relationship between the volume of guns getting over the border and the consequential volume of illegal aliens escaping the increasing violence.

Trump is a scumbag, him and many prior to him CREATED the surge in illegal aliens, they could clamp down hard on the weapons smuggling and supply and that would reduce the illegal alien problem, or could have if it he'd done it in 2016.

 

[JGalt]

Cool, a political hack piece.

The non-partisan CBO disagreed.

I'll stick with the non-partisan sources.

It really doesn't matter, does it? President Donald J. Trump and a Republican-held Congress are going to deport millions of illegals, and there's nothing you can do to stop them.

You can hammer out a flurry of words on some obscure internet discussion board, you can bitch, moan, scream and cry if you want to. But the big picture is, you can't prevent it from happening. So put your big boy pants on, wipe away that tear, and take your medicine.

You'll feel better, I promise.

 

[Dekster]

Sure, to face criminal gangs who are more heavily armed than our most armed law enforcement because 99% of the guns south of the border are facilitated by the US gun industry.

Well they could arm themselves and sneak back or be deported. Choice is theirs. That is really the dynamic they want---people to self deport before the Donald's stormtroopers kick in their door in the middle of the night. Do enough of the latter, and the former will become more common. Now we just need to fund a crimestoppers program that gives people $1K to rat out their illegal relatives and neighbors.

 

[JGalt]

$150 billion a year.

Plus, what about their other detrimental effects? They ruin the public schools and property values where they live, drive up the cost of rents, and suppress wages.

Not to mention the cost to law-enforcement, courts, detention facilities, and the family members of those who are murdered, raped, or killed by a drunk driver.

 

[Rogue AI]

People are dim, a far bigger cause of reduced earnings is not illegal aliens but legal immigration. I am a skilled technology worker and over the years corporations like Apple, Microsoft, Oracle and so on, all view for huge numbers of H1B visa quotas.

Then rather than pay US workers a suitable wage, they dilute the workforce and make it harder for us to earn as we once did.

The legal H1B quotas are limited but industry is always seeking more why? because it reduces costs for these companies by getting cheaper labor.

There are some differences. Most of the jobs illegals do have to be done here. Whereas tech jobs can be done almost anywhere. Covid lock downs taught us that. You are more likely to see tech jobs simply move overseas, there is no physical requirement for them to be here. Very different issues.

 

[Lisa558]

No need, I'm not nearly concerned enough about the cost. Removing the illegal hordes will pay for itself in time. The silly whining of the cost of deportations while not bothering to mention the costs on keeping them here tells it's own story.

Not even a week past the election, and the libs already give away that they never had any intent to control the border. They are back to making excuses for the illegals and telling us what an “asset” they are to the country

1) $150 billion a year in direct costs
2) Indirect costs such as lowered property values where the illegals live
3) Hard-to-quantify costs such as ruining the caliber of public school education and increased demand for hospital ERs
4) More violent criminals and drug dealers

 

[Lisa558]

Not to mention the cost to law-enforcement, courts, detention facilities, and the family members of those who are murdered, raped, or killed by a drunk driver.

Trump should prioritize the criminal aliens, of course, but he should also deport any illegal who breaks a law - speeding, drunk driving, running a red light, whatever. These people have some chutzpah coming into a country illegally and then putting Americans at risk.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Well they could arm themselves and sneak back or be deported. Choice is theirs. That is really the dynamic they want---people to self deport before the Donald's stormtroopers kick in their door in the middle of the night. Do enough of the latter, and the former will become more common. Now we just need to fund a crimestoppers program that gives people $1K to rat out their illegal relatives and neighbors.

The US arms industry WANT increasing violence over the border, it's their bread and butter. But it has the nasty side effect of creating - in effect - refugees. Trump could address that but he won't he just doesn't care, he goes on about illegal aliens because it gets him votes, he cares so much that he and his team didn't even draft and outline plan and cost for the mass deportation, I mean how dumb can 73,663,038 people be...time for a beer...later folks...

 

[Lisa558]

Assuming that figure is correct, now figure in the roughly $1T cost of deportation, the loss of tax revenue to the government from those deported workers, and the inflationary effect of removing millions of workers from the workforce.

Now it’s $1T to deport them? I thought you said $88 billion.

 

[mamooth]

You can hammer out a flurry of words

Why so upset? You won.

Are you coming to the realization that you have to actually govern now?