The Price of Racism to American Taxpayers: ICE surge cost Minneapolis more than $200M

[JusticeHammer]

The price of racism is costing this country at least 1 million per day. This is money that could help Americans instead of what we are seeing.

This far what ICE has done in Minneapolis has cost this county over 200 million dollars, and don't come back with some silly comment about how illegals are costing the US more.

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Carl Davis, Marco Guzman, Emma Sifre, Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants, Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, July 30, 2024, https://sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/itep/ITEP-Tax-Payments-by-Undocumented-Immigrants-2024.pdf.

Undocumented immigrant give over 220 million to Minnesota in taxes. Not only is racism trying to take that away,

The latest: ICE surge cost Minneapolis more than $200M, Frey asks feds to foot the bill​

Operation Metro Surge has cost Minneapolis more than $200 million, city officials announced today. Mayor Jacob Frey called on state and federal officials to help the city recover.

“Minneapolis taxpayers should not be left to foot the bill of this situation that has been created by the federal government,” he said.

MSN

it's costing 200 million dollars more.

So Minnesota stands to lose 400 million due to racism.

This is the price of racism.

Wouldn't have cost that much if the idiots wouldn't have rioted

 

[IM2]

Wouldn't have cost that much if the idiots wouldn't have rioted

Nobody rioted, and it has cost us over 1 million per day for them to be doing what they are doing nationwide. They aevilating the coonstitution an you are excusing it.

 

[MarathonMike]

Nobody rioted, and it has cost us over 1 million per day for them to be doing what they are doing nationwide. They aevilating the coonstitution an you are excusing it.

Nobody rioted in Minneapolis during the George Floyd riots? You better tell all the small business owners who lost everything they'd worked for because Black people in Minneapolis didn't go berserk and didn't burn down buildings, Cop cars, a Police Precinct, and didn't cause over a billion dollars worth of damage. Here read this IQ2:

Exclusive: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance history

The violence after George Floyd's death is the costliest since the 1992 L.A. riots.

www.axios.com

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If the Fed orders it, and we pay for the actions of the Federal Government, we should stand for the costs. Why not?

The problem I have with you is that you are supporting the board's worst actual racist and offering tacit approval of his false claim that ICE costs incurred are the cost of racism.

People are being removed because they are here illegally and in many cases are criminals beyond that.

 

[MarathonMike]

I am not sure of the cost account, of course. But, if true, the Feds should foot the bill.

The piece you are missing is the greatly inflated cost due to the danger the ICE agents were subjected to by the ICE protesters. They had to import many times the normal number officers because the Minnesota leadership ordered their local law enforcement to not cooperate or protect ICE in any way.

 

[westwall]

are you a revolutionary socialist or a Democratic socialist ?

Im2stupid is your garden variety Marxist.

 

[Stryder50]

If the Fed orders it, and we pay for the actions of the Federal Government, we should stand for the costs. Why not?

We might be stuck with paying the costs, but that doesn't mean we have to approve or accept what the Fed has done.

 

[Captain Caveman]

If the Fed orders it, and we pay for the actions of the Federal Government, we should stand for the costs. Why not?

Do you think States should enforce laws, such as detecting and dealing with illegal immigration, or leave up to the government?

 

[White 6]

The problem I have with you is that you are supporting the board's worst actual racist and offering tacit approval of his false claim that ICE costs incurred are the cost of racism.

People are being removed because they are here illegally and in many cases are criminals beyond that.

All he did was post an article. All I did was support the article being discussed.
Dude, I am a long time conservative. I look at it like eminent domain issues and the statement of Dick Cheny "If you break it, you buy it". If the Federal government wants to take actions on the ground, belonging to you, that costs you, that you did not wish to make it is damage and the Fed should pay. In principle, I would apply that to local and state governments. There have been recent court cases where local police caused damage to local residents, local government refused to make resident whole for the damage. On appeal, up to supreme court, it was reversed and local government had to pay up. This is a litigious society and country. Our own presidents frivolously sues everybody under the sun, when winning, mostly due to having deeper pockets, not being in the right. It is their right to bring suit. It will be done through the courts. It is their money to invest in the lawsuit. I support the effort. Current administration and DOJ have wreaked havoc, even loss of life with their approach and tactics, yet still not producing the numbers of deportations of even the Obama administration, but with much more costs to taxpayers, national and local. Most of these large operations have been directed at Democrat cities, no higher in crime or immigrant (legal and illegal) both in raw number and percentage than Republican lead cities, yet no disruptive militaristic push takes place in the Republican lead cities. Much of the targeting appears to be political in nature by this administration, and those cities carry the burden of that additional costs involve, whether they wanted it, deserved being targeted for their political voting history or not. They have what appears to possibly be a legitimate case, if they can prove it. More power to them.

 

[White 6]

The piece you are missing is the greatly inflated cost due to the danger the ICE agents were subjected to by the ICE protesters. They had to import many times the normal number officers because the Minnesota leadership ordered their local law enforcement to not cooperate or protect ICE in any way.

That is for courts to decide. They must make their case and the DOJ make their defense. That is the way it works. It will not be decided on websites and message boards.

 

[White 6]

We might be stuck with paying the costs, but that doesn't mean we have to approve or accept what the Fed has done.

No, only foot the bill, if the Fed is liable as a matter of law, to be argued in the courts, by jury, then appeals, like any other civil legal action.

 

[White 6]

Do you think States should enforce laws, such as detecting and dealing with illegal immigration, or leave up to the government?

Personally, I have no problem with states rounding up illegal aliens (and only illegal aliens) then turning them over to the feds for hearing their cases in legitimate courts and then return to country of origin, if court rules them here illegally. I think it is a jurisdictional matter, with that being the purview of the Fed, though, due to the way the law is written. But, if arresting people in mass, little attention paid to rounding up Americans along with possible illegal, mostly only guilty of a federal misdemeanor, the method should uniformly be no more force that any other misdemeanor, using normally uniformed, identifiable law enforcement, not masked combat goon squads, terrorizing the public, at large, not accepting even Real ID, Military ID, or in some cases even US government passport ID. When this is done, simply to generate higher arrests, though significant mistakes in whether even arresting an illegal or natural born American, it is going too far, causes backlash and local problems. I have no problem with getting rid of illegal aliens, that have been hiding below the surface, not in the process under immigration courts. But, being the federal government does not grant right to target Dem cities only, using brutal military tactics, just because the Pres wants to declare and emergency in a local area of his choice.

 

[IM2]

White6 and I have disagreed on several issues, reparations being one of them, but he shows you guys that I do disagree with whites and do not call them racists only because we disagree. White6 is an honest conservative, not a racist. I live in Kansas and know whites like White6, honest conservatives who do not blindly agree with everything a Republican does just because they are Republican. That's why they put a Democrat in the governor's mansion for the last 2 terms and rejected 2 MAGAT Republican candidates. One of them I have voted for is our Senator, Jerry Moran. White6 and I may disagree politically, but I do think we are working toward the same goal, that would be the best America that can be, not some right-wing totalitarian white Christian Nationalist fascist shithole country.

 

[IM2]

Nobody has a problem with illegals being rounded up. All illegals. But it has to be done constitutionally.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Personally, I have no problem with states rounding up illegal aliens (and only illegal aliens) then turning them over to the feds for hearing their cases in legitimate courts and then return to country of origin, if court rules them here illegally. I think it is a jurisdictional matter, with that being the purview of the Fed, though, due to the way the law is written. But, if arresting people in mass, little attention paid to rounding up Americans along with possible illegal, mostly only guilty of a federal misdemeanor, the method should uniformly be no more force that any other misdemeanor, using normally uniformed, identifiable law enforcement, not masked combat goon squads, terrorizing the public, at large, not accepting even Real ID, Military ID, or in some cases even US government passport ID. When this is done, simply to generate higher arrests, though significant mistakes in whether even arresting an illegal or natural born American, it is going too far, causes backlash and local problems. I have no problem with getting rid of illegal aliens, that have been hiding below the surface, not in the process under immigration courts. But, being the federal government does not grant right to target Dem cities only, using brutal military tactics, just because the Pres wants to declare and emergency in a local area of his choice.

Maybe the police should be helpful to make things less abrasive. Trump is going all out on illegal immigration because of the dreadful handling under Biden. Democrat cities/states brought it upon themselves for harbouring illegals/criminals. Illegals know what's going on, if only they handed themselves in to avoid such problems. And because the US is crazy with guns, I can see why ICE or forceful and probably fearful from gun fire.

I'm looking in from the outside, so I see the full picture and not biased. States (certainly Democrat states) have taken it upon themselves to ignore the law. For some reason, Left Wingers find the word 'illegal' tricky.

If your neighbour is one or they're harbouring an illegal, would you ring the authorities? I would, otherwise citizens are aiding and abetting an illegal act.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

All he did was post an article.

Bullshit. He attributed the deportation of criminal aliens as racist.

 

[White 6]

Nobody has a problem with illegals being rounded up. All illegals. But it has to be done constitutionally.

I guess my real problem, is method and scope, brutality and raw numbers used. It seems to stem from Trump's flagrant misuse of "National Emergency" powers. If he wants a new policy on anything significant, he declares a national emergency to go around the norms, laws and the Constitution, and with deadly results. His judgment, simply is not the best, and (in fact) not to be trusted. This is witnessed by not only the actions, but the reaction of the courts, including the Supreme Court in ruling on his used of emergency powers. If everything is an emergency, then nothing is an emergency. He has declared at least 8 emergencies since returning to office, illegally take advantage of supposed emergency powers to get around normal operations, the law of the land, and (not to forget) congressional inaction that has been going on forever, irritating, yes, but not an emergency. He has declared Emergency more than any other president in history during his first year in office, after returning in 2025. Immigration is simply one of them.

Donald Trump declared nine new national emergencies since taking office in January 2025, including those related to energy, trade, immigration, drug enforcement, and foreign relations. He also reinstated two emergencies from his first term, bringing the total to 11 active national emergencies during his presidency.

Newsweek truthout.org

 

[MarathonMike]

Im2stupid is your garden variety Marxist.

A Racist Marxist to be more precise.

 

[IM2]

I guess my real problem, is method and scope, brutality and raw numbers used. It seems to stem from Trump's flagrant misuse of "National Emergency" powers. If he wants a new policy on anything significant, he declares a national emergency to go around the norms, laws and the Constitution, and with deadly results. His judgment, simply is not the best, and (in fact) not to be trusted. This is witnessed by not only the actions, but the reaction of the courts, including the Supreme Court in ruling on his used of emergency powers. If everything is an emergency, then nothing is an emergency. He has declared at least 8 emergencies since returning to office, illegally take advantage of supposed emergency powers to get around normal operations, the law of the land, and (not to forget) congressional inaction that has been going on forever, irritating, yes, but not an emergency. He has declared Emergency more than any other president in history during his first year in office, after returning in 2025. Immigration is simply one of them.

Donald Trump declared nine new national emergencies since taking office in January 2025, including those related to energy, trade, immigration, drug enforcement, and foreign relations. He also reinstated two emergencies from his first term, bringing the total to 11 active national emergencies during his presidency.

Newsweek truthout.org

I agree with you completely. If he were doing this the right way, nobody would complain. And yes, he is abusing his power, but that was predicted. He did this the last time. The people who put him in office forgot about his first presidency while believing the fantasy he presented about the economy he did not create or the wars he didn't start. Now we are in this quagmire of our own making. This is an example of another self-inflicted wound this nation has continued making over the course of the last 250 years.

 

[MarathonMike]

President Trump has lots of things to fix and little time to do it. He is doing a great job and he terrifies the Democrats that all of their beautiful wickedness is being undone.