Trump said he might have to close Mosques :D

[Gracie]

FDR locked up Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor and the supreme court at the time authorized it. All Trump is saying is that we need to consider how muslem Mosques are promoting jihad.

This ^
Mosques that are not involved in jihad should be left alone. BUT...any HINT of them sneaking (said in my best Gollum voice)....down it goes.

Explain what you mean by "involved in jihad".

What needs explaining? Plotting. Organizing. Recruiting via the ruse of religious prayer when it involved more than that. But you knew that already what I meant.

I don't like talking to you. So..I'm done responding to you.

 

[Rotagilla]

Unconstitutional.

hahahahaha......arguably...just like the anti american obama redefines terms and makes clever executive orders to bypass the constitution...creative patriotic linguists and patriotic lawyers can make any piece of paper mean anything they want it to.

the ******* muzzie "refugees" have to be stopped, no matter what.
People are sick and tired of the manchurian muslim purposely working to undermine america. He's playing with fire this time.

 

[Flopper]

Unconstitutional.

Not only is it not unconstitutional to close the mosques, it is unconstitutional to allow them to be open, and that has been the case for 226 years. Islam is a supremacism. It is the largest and most clear-cut supremacism in the world. As such, it is 100% ILLEGAL/UNCONSTITUTIONAL, so says US Constitution Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause >>

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

The Supreme Court has interpreted religion to mean a sincere and meaningful belief that occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to the place held by God in the lives of other persons. The religion or religious concept need not include belief in the existence of God or a supreme being to be within the scope of the First Amendment.

Under SCOTUS definition of a religion Islam would certainly qualify as a religion as well as practically any cult in the country. The court has been extremely tolerant as what constitutes a religion. If Trump issued and executive order to close Mosques, it would be shot down by the courts before the ink dried and Congress would probably draft a bill on impeachment.

Don't you people realize Trump is pulling your chain? He may not be a constitutional scholar but he has at least some vague knowledge of the 1st amendment.

Religion

Trump, playing his Ode to Morons, for his mental children...

He has no authority to shut any religious building down. And if he thinks he will, I don't want him as president even more.

he didn't say religious buildings, he said mosques.

And he didn't come out and say "I will shut them down if elected". He said mosques need to be watched and if it came to that if certain mosques were hideyholes (paraphrasing) for jihad plots and training camps, etc...it would be a sad thing to do but it would have to be done. And I agree with him 100%.
Innocent mosques have nothing to worry about. The ones that ***** and complain...do.

Deny freedom of speech as well as to freedom to worship. That should make the ISIS folks pretty happy.

 

[Rotagilla]

Donald Trump: 'Strongly consider' shutting mosques - CNNPolitics.com

now we talkin'

...i'm onboard

I am too. It's time to demolish them and deport them along with the wetbacks. Our national security and sovereignty is in peril and we must take action.

if the ***** politicians won't take action, the people will. enough is enough.

 

[Rotagilla]

Unconstitutional.

Not only is it not unconstitutional to close the mosques, it is unconstitutional to allow them to be open, and that has been the case for 226 years. Islam is a supremacism. It is the largest and most clear-cut supremacism in the world. As such, it is 100% ILLEGAL/UNCONSTITUTIONAL, so says US Constitution Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause >>

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

The Supreme Court has interpreted religion to mean a sincere and meaningful belief that occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to the place held by God in the lives of other persons. The religion or religious concept need not include belief in the existence of God or a supreme being to be within the scope of the First Amendment.

Under SCOTUS definition of a religion Islam would certainly qualify as a religion as well as practically any cult in the country. The court has been extremely tolerant as what constitutes a religion. If Trump issued and executive order to close Mosques, it would be shot down by the courts before the ink dried and Congress would probably draft a bill on impeachment.

Don't you people realize Trump is pulling your chain? He may not be a constitutional scholar but he has at least some vague knowledge of the 1st amendment.

Religion

Trump, playing his Ode to Morons, for his mental children...

He has no authority to shut any religious building down. And if he thinks he will, I don't want him as president even more.

he didn't say religious buildings, he said mosques.

And he didn't come out and say "I will shut them down if elected". He said mosques need to be watched and if it came to that if certain mosques were hideyholes (paraphrasing) for jihad plots and training camps, etc...it would be a sad thing to do but it would have to be done. And I agree with him 100%.
Innocent mosques have nothing to worry about. The ones that ***** and complain...do.

Deny freedom of speech as well as to freedom to worship. ISIS couldn't be any happier than that.

americas well being and the well being of its citizens overrides all else...
...and who gives a flip what isis is happy or "unhappy" about? Why would you even care?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

...and who gives a flip what isis is happy or "unhappy" about? Why would you even care?

Terrific, you have no problems doing what ISIS wants. So be it.

It needs you to be enraged, unthinking, unquestioning.
It needs you to go to war, Christians and Jews against Muslims.
It needs you to slaughter Muslim men, women, and children, again.
It needs you to wage terrible wars in Muslim lands.
It needs you to reject the modern, secular, liberal world.
It needs you to be as savage as they are, and take as much pleasure in savage acts.
It needs you to be dogmatically religious, to make a Holy War.
It needs you to believe that you are doing the Will of God, wielding the sword of God.

It needs you, to become them.

 

[Rotagilla]

...and who gives a flip what isis is happy or "unhappy" about? Why would you even care?

Terrific, you have no problems doing what ISIS wants. So be it.

It needs you to be enraged, unthinking, unquestioning.
It needs you to go to war, Christians and Jews against Muslims.
It needs you to slaughter Muslim men, women, and children, again.
It needs you to wage terrible wars in Muslim lands.
It needs you to reject the modern, secular, liberal world.
It needs you to be as savage as they are, and take as much pleasure in savage acts.
It needs you to be dogmatically religious, to make a Holy War.
It needs you to believe that you are doing the Will of God, wielding the sword of God.

It needs you, to become them.

We don't give a flip how you theoreticians exaggerate or rationalize it..we don't care what names you call us.
the american people will have the final word and american patriots have had enough.
We don't need any "refugees" from syria here for any reason..they are incompatible with western culture.

The question you theoreticians and amateur lawyers SHOULD be asking is why does obama want this so badly that he purposely bypasses normal processes to fast track them in?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

...and who gives a flip what isis is happy or "unhappy" about? Why would you even care?

Terrific, you have no problems doing what ISIS wants. So be it.

It needs you to be enraged, unthinking, unquestioning.
It needs you to go to war, Christians and Jews against Muslims.
It needs you to slaughter Muslim men, women, and children, again.
It needs you to wage terrible wars in Muslim lands.
It needs you to reject the modern, secular, liberal world.
It needs you to be as savage as they are, and take as much pleasure in savage acts.
It needs you to be dogmatically religious, to make a Holy War.
It needs you to believe that you are doing the Will of God, wielding the sword of God.

It needs you, to become them.

We don't give a flip how you theoreticians exaggerate or rationalize it..we don't care what names you call us.
the american people will have the final word and american patriots have had enough.
We don't need any "refugees" from syria here for any reason..they are incompatible with western culture.

The question you theoreticians and amateur lawyers SHOULD be asking is why does obama want this so badly that he purposely bypasses normal processes to fast track them in?

If you are having a say, no one has noticed...

 

[Mac1958]

The only way this could be done within ten miles of the Constitution is to declare that Islam is not a real religion, I reckon. Does anyone see that happening?

That would open up some interesting avenues regarding Scientology™, though...
.

 

[Rotagilla]

The only way this could be done within ten miles of the Constitution is to declare that Islam is not a real religion, I reckon. Does anyone see that happening?

That would open up some interesting avenues regarding Scientology™, though...
.

and obama smiles at the destabilizing he's accomplished so far...now just a little more and his work will be done...

If we have to re write or "re interpret" the constitution so that american interests are foremost, so be it...if that doesn't work, the people will handle it...and then there'll be some REAL change...

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Donald Trump: 'Strongly consider' shutting mosques - CNNPolitics.com

now we talkin'

...i'm onboard

So...Getting rid of the 1st Amendment too or just commiting a federal offense violating people's civil rights?

 

[Claudette]

Unconstitutional.

Not only is it not unconstitutional to close the mosques, it is unconstitutional to allow them to be open, and that has been the case for 226 years. Islam is a supremacism. It is the largest and most clear-cut supremacism in the world. As such, it is 100% ILLEGAL/UNCONSTITUTIONAL, so says US Constitution Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause >>

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

Then lets demolish them and kick all Muslims out of the US.

If they can attack in France you can bet your ass they can attack here.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The only way this could be done within ten miles of the Constitution is to declare that Islam is not a real religion, I reckon. Does anyone see that happening?

That would open up some interesting avenues regarding Scientology™, though...
.

That won't work either.

 

[SwimExpert]

not after islam is declared a cult

That would be unconstitutional.

No, more like playing word games. "Cult" is just another term for a religion you don't like.

 

[SwimExpert]

This isn't the dumbest post ever on this board. But it's in the top ten without a doubt.

When you have a logical explanation to base that on, and add to that empty box of words, I'll be here to read it.

Oh, sure. I've got your logical argument right here:

It's not the dumbest post ever on this board, because there have been other posts which have been dumber than yours. There are about two or three that are definitely dumber, without question. After that, the next five dumbest posts ever end constituting one or two posts that might be dumber than yours, one or two that might equally dumb, but the least dumb of these five is definitely not as dumb as your post. Ergo, your post definitely belongs somewhere in this grouping.

Now, since there are about two or three that are definitely dumber than you post, and the subsequent group of posts now constitutes a group of six, that means that in total these are the 9 dumbest posts ever, which include and encapsulate your own. Since the top ten includes the top nine, by definition, your post is definitely in the top ten dumbest posts of all time.


Oh, and here's another logical argument:

Your "supremacism" argument is fallacy of equivocation, completely unsubstantiable, and utterly nonsense.

 

[Avatar4321]

How does stopping adherents of a particular religion, Muslims, from building houses of worship not violate our constitution?

That's not what is proposed.

Really? Cause that's what the article says

 

[Avatar4321]

How does stopping adherents of a particular religion, Muslims, from building houses of worship not violate our constitution?

1. It is in conformance with Article 6 Section 2 of the Constitution, the Supremacy Clause, which outlaws supremacisms (other than the constitution itself), so all mosques are illegal and unconstitutional.

2. Islam is not a religion, as most people around the world contend,,as well as some countries (ex. Italy)

The supremacy clause has nothing to do with religiion. You don't get to rip away a religions status as a religion simply Because you want to violate the constitution

 

[Avatar4321]

How does stopping adherents of a particular religion, Muslims, from building houses of worship not violate our constitution?

1. It is in conformance with Article 6 Section 2 of the Constitution, the Supremacy Clause, which outlaws supremacisms (other than the constitution itself), so all mosques are illegal and unconstitutional.

2. Islam is not a religion, as most people around the world contend,,as well as some countries (ex. Italy)

The supremacy clause has nothing to do with religion. You don't get to rip away a religions status as a religion simply Because you want to violate the constitution

 

[Katzndogz]

How does stopping adherents of a particular religion, Muslims, from building houses of worship not violate our constitution?

That's not what is proposed.

Really? Cause that's what the article says

Did you miss the part about closing mosques where hate is preached? Is your position that all mosques preach hate?

 

[Katzndogz]

The right to rape uncovered women is a belief. Should that be protected? Just explain to women very carefully that the muslims have freedom of religion. They aren't really being raped. They are assisting in an act of piety.

When a mosque is building suicide vests in the basement, its freedom of religion. Nothing to be done but donate to the cause.