Trump promises to sign National Reciprocity Bill

[NetJedi]

A little bit dated but President Trump has promised to sign a National Concealed Carry Reciprocity bill if it's placed on his desk, this is GREAT news for all of us that support the 2nd Amendment and the right to self-defense! In a nutshell such a bill would force states to honor concealed carry permits from all other states as opposed to the labyrinth we have today of getting permits from multiple states (and being unable to get CCW's in idiotic states like California) just to travel with our EDC's concealed.

Here's a good video if you're interested in learning more details.



Another reason to be happy Donald Trump won the election.

 

[luiza]

If the Right got organised and set a day for bumping off all Extremist Lefty Mutants plus Black Crappers plus the -IQ 2.0 types , you could lay down your guns and become happy and safe like your role models in Team GB .
A few lucky visitors here might then be granted an audience with dearest Aunt Luiza.

 

[Foxfyre]

A little bit dated but President Trump has promised to sign a National Concealed Carry Reciprocity bill if it's placed on his desk, this is GREAT news for all of us that support the 2nd Amendment and the right to self-defense! In a nutshell such a bill would force states to honor concealed carry permits from all other states as opposed to the labyrinth we have today of getting permits from multiple states (and being unable to get CCW's in idiotic states like California) just to travel with our EDC's concealed.

Here's a good video if you're interested in learning more details.



Another reason to be happy Donald Trump won the election.

I don't think the GOP controlled Congress will pass it though as I think they will see it as a state's rights issue. That would leave it up to the individual whether he/she wanted to visit a state that didn't allow CC. But they could see it as a constitutional rights thing too and therefore within their jurisdiction to legislate. Either way it could wind up in the Supreme Court to decide.

We'll see how it goes.

 

[pknopp]

I guess states rights no longer matter?

Personally I do not believe there should be any laws restricting people at all but I still have to note the hypocrisy.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I don't think the GOP controlled Congress will pass it though as I think they will see it as a state's rights issue. That would leave it up to the individual whether he/she wanted to visit a state that didn't allow CC. But they could see it as a constitutional rights thing too and therefore within their jurisdiction to legislate. Either way it could wind up in the Supreme Court to decide.

We'll see how it goes.

Yeah, the right to bear arms is enumerated in the us constitution and thats final. Carrying concealed or open should be left up to the states.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I guess states rights no longer matter?

Personally I do not believe there should be any laws restricting people at all but I still have to note the hypocrisy.

Personally, I don't either but a lot of liberal states infringe upon the type of gun that you are allowed to own within that state. There is no hypocrisy concerning 2a rights. Its very easy to comprehend. It also supersedes states rights.....as it should, the same as the 1a.

 

[progressive hunter]

I guess states rights no longer matter?

Personally I do not believe there should be any laws restricting people at all but I still have to note the hypocrisy.

the 2nd A over rides states rights,,

try reading the 10th A and get back to us,,

 

[NetJedi]

I guess states rights no longer matter?

Personally I do not believe there should be any laws restricting people at all but I still have to note the hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy are you referring to? There are all kinds of laws and judgements that are nationally recognized under Article 4, section 1 of COTUS, why should CCW be any different? Reciprocity simply means that an out of state CCW must be respected, the CCW holder still has to comply with all the firearm rules and regulations of host state, for example having an out of state CCW while carrying in California wouldn't allow you to ignore California's magazine capacity limitation, it would just let you legally carry the same way any holder of a CCW in California can.

States rights do not override the rights of individual American citizens, especially when it comes to constitutionally protect rights like those in the 2nd Amendment.

 

[pknopp]

the 2nd A over rides states rights,,

try reading the 10th A and get back to us,,

Then you should support no laws, not in forcing states to accept the laws of other states.

Laws concerning the 2nd are still laws.

 

[progressive hunter]

Then you should support no laws, not in forcing states to accept the laws of other states.

Laws concerning the 2nd are still laws.

I dont support any laws that restrict keeping and bearing arms,,

and we shouldnt need a reciprocity law

 

[pknopp]

I dont support any laws that restrict keeping and bearing arms,,

and we shouldnt need a reciprocity law

So you want states to accept laws you don't support.

 

[progressive hunter]

So you want states to accept laws you don't support.

I want laws to comply with the constitution,,

and in the case of the 2nd A that would mean no laws that restrict keeping and bearing arms,,

 

[NetJedi]

I dont support any laws that restrict keeping and bearing arms,,

and we shouldnt need a reciprocity law

You're right we shouldn't, however given that reality is what reality is, having national reciprocity is better than not having it. I shouldn't have to get a CCW in 3 different states just so that I can carry concealed legally in most of the states, any more than I should have to get a driver's license in multiple states just to be able to drive across the country.

 

[MisterBeale]

A little bit dated but President Trump has promised to sign a National Concealed Carry Reciprocity bill if it's placed on his desk, this is GREAT news for all of us that support the 2nd Amendment and the right to self-defense! In a nutshell such a bill would force states to honor concealed carry permits from all other states as opposed to the labyrinth we have today of getting permits from multiple states (and being unable to get CCW's in idiotic states like California) just to travel with our EDC's concealed.

Here's a good video if you're interested in learning more details.



Another reason to be happy Donald Trump won the election.

I know you are new, so you can be forgiven for not realizing this isn't the proper sub-forum for posting this.

We have an entire sub-forum devoted to the 2A.

In fact, a thread was already started on this in the sub-forum.

Trump promises national CCW reciprocity...

Winning! Like the American Express Card...don't leave home without it. Need a system for truckers at ports and military bases as well.

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[BluesLegend]

I don't think the GOP controlled Congress will pass it though as I think they will see it as a state's rights issue.

I think NOT! It's the 2nd goddamn Amendment and that is not subject to the whims of the states and anti gun Democrats. I don't get my constitutional rights from my state or our asshole Dem dickhead governor.

 

[Donald H]

First understand that an American with an AR-15 heading to a school is not a bad guy with a gun until he becomes a bad guy with a gun. Americans have 2A rights that allow them to window shop schools as long as they don't pull the triggers.

Next thing to come will be armed lib fkn teachers thinking they have a right to shoot at the crowd of window shoppers!

 

[NetJedi]

I know you are new, so you can be forgiven for not realizing this isn't the proper sub-forum for posting this.

We have an entire sub-forum devoted to the 2A.

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In fact, a thread was already started on this in the sub-forum.

Trump promises national CCW reciprocity...

Winning! Like the American Express Card...don't leave home without it. Need a system for truckers at ports and military bases as well.

www.usmessageboard.com

I apologize I didn't notice; I should have looked more carefully.

 

[Foxfyre]

I think NOT! It's the 2nd goddamn Amendment and that is not subject to the whims of the states and anti gun Democrats. I don't get my constitutional rights from my state or our asshole Dem dickhead governor.

Nevertheless a good society does want some regulation of how guns will be used to protect that society. You don't want toddlers carrying around loaded pistols and it only makes sense to ban potentially deadly weapons in settings like bars where people's judgment is intentionally compromised. Every citizen should have the right to allow or not allow deadly weapons in his/her home or place of business etc. where other constitutional principles come into play.

I am very pro gun, pro self defense. I strongly approve of concealed carry. But I do not think the Second Amendment was ever intended to mean that anybody could do whatever he/she wanted to do with a weapon or that the clearly bad actors who intend to do harm with them and the clearly incompetent should be allowed to have them.

 

[pknopp]

I want laws to comply with the constitution,,

and in the case of the 2nd A that would mean no laws that restrict keeping and bearing arms,,

Great, so this is stupid. Making states accept other states infringments.

 

[pknopp]

Nevertheless a good society does want some regulation of how guns will be used to protect that society. You don't want toddlers carrying around loaded pistols and it only makes sense to ban potentially deadly weapons in settings like bars where people's judgment is intentionally compromised.

Bars can set their own restrictions. The 2nd restricts the government not private individuals.

Every citizen should have the right to allow or not allow deadly weapons in his/her home or place of business etc. where other constitutional principles come into play.

I am very pro gun, pro self defense. I strongly approve of concealed carry. But I do not think the Second Amendment was ever intended to mean that anybody could do whatever he/she wanted to do with a weapon or that the clearly bad actors who intend to do harm with them and the clearly incompetent should be allowed to have them.

That's why the Constitution also created due process.