Trump picks conspiracy theorist with no medical license to replace Fox News contributor as Surgeon General

[MisterBeale]

Why would I need vitamin supplements? I eat a varied and healthy diet.

An Alarming Decline in the Nutritional Quality of Foods: The Biggest Challenge for Future Generations’ Health​

An Alarming Decline in the Nutritional Quality of Foods: The Biggest Challenge for Future Generations’ Health - PMC

In the last sixty years, there has been an alarming decline in food quality and a decrease in a wide variety of nutritionally essential minerals and nutraceutical compounds in imperative fruits, vegetables, and food crops. The potential causes ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Marener]

An Alarming Decline in the Nutritional Quality of Foods: The Biggest Challenge for Future Generations’ Health​

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An Alarming Decline in the Nutritional Quality of Foods: The Biggest Challenge for Future Generations’ Health - PMC

In the last sixty years, there has been an alarming decline in food quality and a decrease in a wide variety of nutritionally essential minerals and nutraceutical compounds in imperative fruits, vegetables, and food crops. The potential causes ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And? That doesn’t mean I have any vitamin deficiencies.

 

[Couchpotato]

Let’s say you have cancer. Should you trust the medical doctor who wants to treat you with standard of care “big pharma” drugs that are expensive and have side effects or go with the wellness influencer who says all you need are vitamins?

That's not the job of the Surgeon General though. They dont treat patients. Their job is the general health of the nation. A job at which ALL of them have been abject failure IMO. So whether or not an individual with cancer should go seek the advice of Casey Means or any of the past Surgeon Generals regarding their treatment is frankly irrelevant.

 

[Couchpotato]

feel free to prove that they aren't.

Are you seriously making the argument that the US population as a whole is in better general health today than they were 50 years ago? 40? 30? Is the US's general health plotted on a graph trending up or down to you suppose?

 

[Marener]

That's not the job of the Surgeon General though. They dont treat patients. Their job is the general health of the nation. A job at which ALL of them have been abject failure IMO. So whether or not an individual with cancer should go seek the advice of Casey Means or any of the past Surgeon Generals regarding their treatment is frankly irrelevant.

It’s quite relevant, just inconvenient for you.

 

[Couchpotato]

It’s quite relevant, just inconvenient for you.

No it really isnt. Tell me how many cancer patients does the Surgeon General typically treat in an average year?

 

[Marener]

No it really isnt. Tell me how many cancer patients does the Surgeon General typically treat in an average year?

So the surgeon general is responsible for the health of the entire country but isn’t insightful enough to know whether a patient should pursue standard of care medical practice or vitamins?

 

[Couchpotato]

So the surgeon general is responsible for the health of the entire country but isn’t insightful enough to know whether a patient should pursue standard of care medical practice or vitamins?

Their job is the general health of the nation. Not specific treatments for specific diseases. Since no one is going to the Surgeon General to proscribe treatment for cancer or any other specific disease their take on it seems less relevant than whether they improve the health of the nation. You know the actual job description. We have a mountain of evidence that people with the qualfications that you feel are required for this job have fail spectacularly so why are you so adamant that the next SG have the same/similar "qualifications"?

 

[Marener]

Their job is the general health of the nation. Not specific treatments for specific diseases. Since no one is going to the Surgeon General to proscribe treatment for cancer or any other specific disease their take on it seems less relevant than whether they improve the health of the nation. You know the actual job description. We have a mountain of evidence that people with the qualfications that you feel are required for this job have fail spectacularly so why are you so adamant that the next SG have the same/similar "qualifications"?

Oh well that makes sense. They’re responsible for the health of the nation but don’t have to know how to treat diseases.

okay.

 

[Couchpotato]

Oh well that makes sense. They’re responsible for the health of the nation but don’t have to know how to treat diseases.

okay.

Is Casey Means a doctor or no?

 

[Couchpotato]

Oh well that makes sense. They’re responsible for the health of the nation but don’t have to know how to treat diseases.

okay.

Let's just be honest. You're primary objection to Means begin nominated is who did the nominating.

 

[Marener]

Is Casey Means a doctor or no?

Yes.

Does she know how to treat disease?

 

[Marener]

Let's just be honest. You're primary objection to Means begin nominated is who did the nominating.

Apparently RFK Jr did the nominating because Trump doesn’t know much about her and doesn’t really care.

I’d oppose her nomination no matter who nominated her. We need serious people in serious positions. Not supplement peddling wellness influences.

 

[InstantOn]

What does she need a medical license for? The SG doesn’t practice medicine…they don’t really preform surgery

They are in charge of 6000 public health specialists. Does she have any management experience?

I'd be interested in what she has communicated about the measles outbreak. Anyone have any quotes from her on this topic?

She doesn't like the US health system. What changes does she want?

The SG's office writes reports that can be influential. What papers/reports has she written or overseen?

What exactly does she offer/bring to this position?

 

[InstantOn]

Are you seriously making the argument that the US population as a whole is in better general health today than they were 50 years ago? 40? 30? Is the US's general health plotted on a graph trending up or down to you suppose?

What's been happening with the population's life expectancy?

 

[struth]

They are in charge of 6000 public health specialists. Does she have any management experience?

I'd be interested in what she has communicated about the measles outbreak. Anyone have any quotes from her on this topic?

She doesn't like the US health system. What changes does she want?

The SG's office writes reports that can be influential. What papers/reports has she written or overseen?

What exactly does she offer/bring to this position?

What makes you think she doesn’t like the US health system?

Yes she’s run a medical practice and a business so she has management experience

 

[Couchpotato]

What's been happening with the population's life expectancy?

Life expectancy and health arent necessarily linked. Are you are really making the argument that as a nation we are healthier today than in the past? We are fatter, less active, have far more ailments, etc etc than the past. That we live softer lives, take fewer risks and have pharmaceuticals that can extend our lives doesnt mean we are healthier.

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The rate of obesity increase by 50% from 2000-2018.

The rate of diabetes has almost doubled since 2000.

 

[Couchpotato]

Apparently RFK Jr did the nominating because Trump doesn’t know much about her and doesn’t really care.

I’d oppose her nomination no matter who nominated her. We need serious people in serious positions. Not supplement peddling wellness influences.

Can you name all the appointments Trump has made you support?

Can you name one?

 

[Marener]

Can you name all the appointments Trump has made you support?

Can you name one?

I don’t obsess over every person appointed in the administration.

It’s not irrational to oppose a wellness influencer as surgeon general.

 

[Couchpotato]

I don’t obsess over every person appointed in the administration.

It’s not irrational to oppose a wellness influencer as surgeon general.

Just say no. Hack