Did you ask yourself who is responsible for all of these?
Look your self in the mirror. If you can not figure that out you are stupid. I'm getting tired of people like you blaming business owners of your failure.
Our borders are sealed we do not need military base or that stupid wall.
I'm a little fuzzy how how can claim our borders are sealed when we have 11 million illegals living in this country.
Dude....... That was before I'm talking about today.
The only thing that changed is that the economy is crappy enough and there are already enough illegals here, that there is not as much of a draw as "normal".
THat in no way suggests the border is more secure.
i'd suggest that if you are competing for menial jobs with people who can't speak english, you should probably change your life.
i find it amusing that trump employed illegals all these years and you still listen to his garbage.
brainwashed imbeciles. but then again, it explains why you think illegals are taking your jobs.
It is funny how you libs like to accuse Trump of being a demagogue, ie using irrational arguments to appeal to people's emotions when that is all you do.
Lets unpack your post, point by point.
1. Your primary point is to state that if someone is facing economic competition for "menial jobs" from illegals or "people who can't speak english" that they are thus worthy of being ridiculed, not someone with a valid interest.
And then you ridicule them.
That is an appeal to emotion. YOu are trying to marginalize their concerns by making fun of them.
That is the OPPOSITE of rational debate.
2. A big part of your argument is the assumption that "menial" jobs are the only ones that illegals can get, because they don't speak english.
This assumption is debunked by the example of the Meatpacking industry. A industry that provided a large number of MANUAL jobs that were risky and hard but could support a middle class lifestyle.
Back in the 80s.
Not any more.
YOu might also want to check your assumptions about landscapers, construction workers, plumbers, ect.
3. Another assumption of your argument is that American menial workers do not deserve to have their interests represented.
Yes, the large number of American poor who work those "menial" jobs, might very well have lives that they should "change".
Personally, I assume most of they have tried. But regardless, they have lives, and they have menial jobs. The difference between a menial job where they make on average 7.25$ an hour and one where they make 9.25$ an hour would be a huge difference in quality of life for millions of Americans. This is a valid reason to support a policy. Obviously.
4. Another oddity about your position is that when the issue is something that liberals support, ie more social spending for example, the poor are these down trodden saints who must be taken care of.
When the issue is that their interests conflict with those of illegal aliens, suddenly you have nothing but contempt and ridicule for them.
Hypocrite much?
5. And lets's not forget, that then end result is that you respond to a valid debating point by insulting the person who made a point that you can't refute honestly.
You are an asshole.