Trump orders US government to cut ties with Anthropic Just Hours Before Deadline

[RhodyPatriot]

You're missing the point entirely.

Quite the opposite.

I've heard and understood your point about ten times now, and yet I still disagree.

Somehow that doesn't seem to compute with your programming.

So imma move on now.

 

[Anomalism]

So imma move on now.

Yeah, good idea.

 

[Captain Creeper]

They don't want to be responsible for creating Skynet. Altman doesn't give a ****.

Not the point. They don’t have a right to dictate how we use their product. It is a free market. We will just go with someone else. What do you not get about this?

 

[Captain Creeper]

The consequences of having ethical lines? True enough.

The consequences of being naive enough to think you can have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Anomalism]

Not the point

That is entirely MY point. Turning AI into a weapons and surveillance god is exactly how we **** everything up.

 

[MarathonMike]

This is an important moment I think. Stuff like this is how we increase the risk of dystopian outcomes due to AI.

I agree. The rapidity of how AI is spreading is very concerning to me. This needs to be VERY carefully examined, not by just sound bytes hurled from the administration or Anthropic.

 

[Anomalism]

The consequences of being naive enough to think you can have your cake and eat it too.

Once an AI accidentally turns into a psychopath killing machine you can explain to the young ones that they can't have their cake and eat it too.

 

[Anomalism]

I agree. The rapidity of how AI is spreading is very concerning to me. This needs to be VERY carefully examined, not by just sound bytes hurled from the administration or Anthropic.

This shouldn't be a partisan issue. This is dangerous.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

I agree. The rapidity of how AI is spreading is very concerning to me. This needs to be VERY carefully examined, not by just sound bytes hurled from the administration or Anthropic.

Who wouldn't agree with that?

The disagreement comes into play when the Guardian falsely frames what happened.

It's like saying:

"Don't you think it's HORRIBLE that Trump is a Russian spy?"

"No"?

"HEY EVERYONE: THAT GUY THINKS IT'S OK THAT TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN SPY!"

It's a canard predicated on an illusion.

Brought to you by the Leftist Guardian who still thinks Jan 6th was an insurrection.

 

[scruffy]

That is entirely MY point. Turning AI into a weapons and surveillance god is exactly how we **** everything up.

War is not ethical. It's dirty, nasty business. You think the Chinese are worried about military ethics? And by the same token, you think the DoD won't put controls on their weapons?

 

[Anomalism]

War is not ethical. It's dirty, nasty business. You think the Chinese are worried about military ethics? And by the same token, you think the DoD won't put controls on their weapons?

Do you think they won't turn this technology against citizens? Remember that thing where the government was spying on everybody? Less chance of whistleblowers when they can just use AI.

It's whatever.

I think I just changed my mind about our trajectory. We might be fucked after all.

 

[Captain Creeper]

That is entirely MY point. Turning AI into a weapons and surveillance god is exactly how we **** everything up.

Do you know what a Sybian is? It is a device that can be fitted with a dildo. A chick sits on it, and it bangs her. If you want more info than that, then Google it.

Now, suppose the makers of Sybian say they want you to use it only for the vagina. They have, let’s say, ethical and moral objections, to letting it be used for a different, darker whole. They then condition sales on you not using it for penetration of the wazoo. What do you do?

You could say F- them. You are going to use it for any hole you want. It is yours; you bought it. Or, you could be like, well, I guess I have to honor the decision of the seller and only use it for cooter. Or, you could say, F- them! I will go buy from another company whose ethics comports with mine!

 

[Anomalism]

Who wouldn't agree with that?

The disagreement comes into play when the Guardian falsely frames what happened.

It's like saying:

"Don't you think it's HORRIBLE that Trump is a Russian spy?"

"No"?

"HEY EVERYONE: THAT GUY THINKS IT'S OK THAT TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN SPY!"

It's a canard predicated on an illusion.

Brought to you by the Leftist Guardian who still thinks Jan 6th was an insurrection.

All you care about is politics.

 

[Captain Creeper]

That is entirely MY point. Turning AI into a weapons and surveillance god is exactly how we **** everything up.

Not the point.

 

[Anomalism]

Do you know what a Sybian is? It is a device that can be fitted with a dildo. A chick sits on it, and it bangs her. If you want more info than that, then Google it.

Now, suppose the makers of Sybian say they want you to use it only for the vagina. They have, let’s say, ethical and moral objections, to letting it be used for a different, darker whole. They then condition sales on you not using it for penetration of the wazoo. What do you do?

You could say F- them. You are going to use it for any hole you want. It is yours; you bought it. Or, you could be like, well, I guess I have to honor the decision of the seller and only use it for cooter. Or, you could say, F- them! I will go buy from another company whose ethics comports with mine!

What a weird ******* analogy that completely misses the point.

Mindsets like this are what will justify building Skynet.

 

[Anomalism]

Not the point.

I don't care about your point. I care about not fulfilling our own prophecy about a dystopian future.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

All you care about is politics.

You care so much about proving you're "apolitical" that you've bought into a blindly partisan argument from one of the most left wing news establishments on the planet.

The irony is it makes your entire argument innately political.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Not the point.

Stop being so political, bro.

 

[MarathonMike]

Who wouldn't agree with that?

The disagreement comes into play when the Guardian falsely frames what happened.

It's like saying:

"Don't you think it's HORRIBLE that Trump is a Russian spy?"

"No"?

"HEY EVERYONE: THAT GUY THINKS IT'S OK THAT TRUMP IS A RUSSIAN SPY!"

It's a canard predicated on an illusion.

Brought to you by the Leftist Guardian who still thinks Jan 6th was an insurrection.

Like I said, I don't know the details yet.

 

[Captain Creeper]

What a weird ******* analogy that completely misses the point.

Mindsets like this are what will justify building Skynet.

It does not miss the point. You are arguing about the need for a debate on the ethics of AI. I do not disagree with that. What I disagree with is the notion that Anthropic is being punished. They are taking their product and availing it of the stream of commerce with the desire to profit. That is a totally separate issue than your ethical issue.

If Anthropic is TRULY concerned about ethics, then they can keep their product off the market until all the issues have been thoroughly fleshed out. But they don’t. They want both the profit and the ability to control how their product is used after it is purchased by a customer. You cannot do that.