Trump orders US government to cut ties with Anthropic Just Hours Before Deadline

[Anomalism]

Anthropic is just being stupid.

The woke crowd hasn't learned yet? Every time they try to mix ideology with business they get screwed.

This is the job of Congress, not Anthropic. Corporations don't get to dictate US law.

Corporations do get to dictate how their product is used in some cases, apparently. That's why the government is pissed off at them right now.

They drew ethical lines on how their product shouldn't be used.

Those lines were...

Don't spy on citizens.

Don't autonomously kill people.

The government couldn't handle that.

 

[Anomalism]

. . and why didn't you just post this in one of these threads?

Thread 'Trump orders US government to cut ties with Anthropic Just Hours Before Deadline'

Feb 27, 2026

The reason I'm posting this despite all of the trashing of my original attempt to make others aware of what is happening, is because this is important.

There are people here on this message board who think that an AI model is nothing more than a glorified search engine, yet the military is so pissed off at the company who created Claude, Antropic, that's when it couldn't coerce them into letting them exploit their intellectual property and use it for potentially nefarious purposes, Trump ordered the severance of all contracts with them.

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We’ve watched as institutions that once defined themselves by independence — Ivy League universities, major law firms, national media organizations — have increasingly folded when faced not just with political criticism, but with financial pressure. Federal funding, contracts, regulatory leverage, and public threats can be powerful tools. When livelihoods and balance sheets are at stake, even long-standing institutions can find their resolve tested.

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So what's your opinion of the president's position specifically?

 

[Mick2]

So what's your opinion of the president's position specifically?

That the President and his administration can contract with any company it chooses to work with.

You seem confused where no confusion exists.

 

[Anomalism]

That the President and his administration can contract with any company it chooses to work with.

You seem confused where no confusion exists.

What about his criticism and targeting of Anthropic for drawing ethical lines and refusing to cross them?

 

[Mick2]

What about his criticism and targeting of Anthropic for drawing ethical lines and refusing to cross them?

Systems that fail to safeguard and protect Americans from harm is ethical to you?

 

[Anomalism]

Systems that fail to safeguard and protect Americans from harm is ethical to you?

The ethical lines were not spying on citizens and not creating weapons that can autonomously kill humans without oversight.

Giving AI the ability to unilaterally decide to kill people is dangerous.

I assume I don't have to explain why mass surveillance of the public is bad.

 

[Mick2]

The ethical lines were not spying on citizens and not creating weapons that can autonomously kill humans without oversight.

Says who?

OpenAI has similar lines. The difference is they've chosen to work with the administration transparently and in cooperation with the best interests of America.

You are flailing here

 

[Anomalism]

Says who?

OpenAI has similar lines. The difference is they've chosen to work with the administration transparently and in cooperation with the best interests of America.

You are flailing here

Dario Amodei, Anthropic's CEO, published a public statement outlining exactly why they refused. The two specific lines were no mass domestic surveillance of American citizens and no fully autonomous weapons systems. Those are documented and verifiable.

Trump's own statement doesn't dispute this. He doesn't say "Anthropic is lying about what we asked for." He calls them radical left woke nutjobs and threatens civil and criminal consequences. If the terms were reasonable, why not just say what they were and defend them?

 

[Mick2]

Dario Amodei, Anthropic's CEO, published a public statement outlining exactly why they refused.

They were dropped. Whatever he claims after-the-fact matters not.

 

[Anomalism]

They were dropped. Whatever he claims after-the-fact matters not.

They were dropped because they refused to budge on mass surveillance and AI that can kill people without human oversight.

Apparently OpenAI is more open-minded about those things.

 

[Anomalism]

Where is Congress on all this?

The dysfunctional morons don't realize that autonomous weapons bypass their controls on war?

What are your thoughts on Trump's comments on this?

 

[MisterBeale]

So what's your opinion of the president's position specifically?

My opinion does not matter. Anyone following this president should know by now, that none of our opinions matter.

The only folks whose opinion seems to matter anymore is Miriam Adelson & Benjamin Netanyahu.

 

[Anomalism]

My opinion does not matter.

Well that's the thing about value; it's subjective.

It matters to me. That's why I asked.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Good for anthropic.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

My opinion does not matter. Anyone following this president should know by now, that none of our opinions matter.

The only folks whose opinion seems to matter anymore is Miriam Adelson & Benjamin Netanyahu.

Even those are small potatoes. Everyone should be concerned about the stargate and endless data centers being built that trump oked. These will be used to kill billions on this planet through a beast AI image. No one seems to care.

 

[scruffy]

The ethical lines were not spying on citizens and not creating weapons that can autonomously kill humans without oversight.

Giving AI the ability to unilaterally decide to kill people is dangerous.

I assume I don't have to explain why mass surveillance of the public is bad.

Anthropic can determine its own values, but it can't determine ours.

 

[scruffy]

They were dropped because they refused to budge on mass surveillance and AI that can kill people without human oversight.

Apparently OpenAI is more open-minded about those things.

It seems OpenAI realizes they can't control usage.

 

[Anomalism]

Anthropic can determine its own values, but it can't determine ours.

What are your values specifically? Are you not in alignment with the idea that AI shouldn't be used for mass surveillance on Americans? What about AI that can autonomously decide to kill people?

Do you agree with the president's comments about Anthropic?

 

[Anomalism]

It seems OpenAI realizes they can't control usage.

If Anthropic can make a principled stand, then so could OpenAI. They just won't.

 

[TemplarKormac]

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Anthropic had a $200 million Pentagon contract. They were already the first AI company running models on classified military networks. They were in. Then Defense Secretary Hegseth issued a memo requiring all Pentagon AI contracts to include "any lawful use" language, meaning the government could use the AI however it wanted as long as it fit their interpretation of being technically legal.

Anthropic drew two specific lines...

No mass domestic surveillance of American citizens.

No fully autonomous weapons, meaning AI that selects and fires on targets with zero human involvement.

Those were their terms from the original contract. The Pentagon wanted them removed. Anthropic said no. Trump's response was to threaten civil and criminal consequences and direct every federal agency to immediately cease using their technology. He called them radical left woke nutjobs who have no idea what the real world is about.

Then OpenAI signed the contract within hours. Here's what I want you to actually think about...

Mass surveillance of American civilians. Does that sound like something you want an AI system doing without contractual restrictions? The Fourth Amendment exists for a reason. "Trust us, it's already illegal" is what every government says before it does the thing. There's also already precedent for the government spying on us.

Autonomous weapons with no human in the loop. A system that selects and eliminates targets without a human making the final call. On American soil potentially. Against American citizens potentially. The President is angry that a private company won't build that without restrictions.

Trump's statement doesn't engage with any of this. It's pure dominance framing. "That decision belongs to your Commander in Chief." Not "Here's why surveillance restrictions are wrong." Not "Here's why autonomous weapons need no oversight." Just "I decide. Submit or face consequences."

The company that refused is now being punished with the full power of the executive branch. The company that complied got the contract. You can think Anthropic is a left wing company. You can dislike their politics on other issues. But on these two specific things, surveillance of American citizens and autonomous weapons without human control, they drew a line that any consistent constitutionalist should respect.

No. I don't like this was handled.