Trump orders new census that does NOT count illegal immigrants

[Mac-7]

MAGA truly hates the Constitution, and Haford has a comprehension problem if he does not think that it affect elections.

Trump should remove illegals from the next census

If the unelected and unaccountable judges on the SC agree with you we can put them back

 

[WorldWatcher]

Just to put the DOGE spin on it.

The 2020 Census cost over $14,000,000,000 ($14 Billion) with a billion or so due to COVID. So call a new Census $12 BILLION dollars.

WW

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Oh please, you loons seem to ignore centuries of precedent on a number of issues such as gun control, limitations on the sales and production of alcohol, and others that are even more succinctly defined within the Constitution.

LOL! Nice pieces of diversion and whataboutism..but has Jackshit to do with the actual topic.
This is not a tit-for-tat issue...nor is it a 'you guys do it all the time' issues.

Read the Constitution...and weep.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They can be counted, but those totals should be removed for the purposes of determining congressional seats since they cannot legally vote or be represented. Let the dems count them, the key is removing that total for the purpose of determining congressional representation.

Not in the rule book.

 

[OldFlame]

United States Constitution Amendment 14 Section 2:
"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States
according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in
each State, excluding Indians not taxed. "

That will need a Constitutional amendment.

WW

So you advocate counting people towards a congressional seat that supposedly need to be represented in congress, but have no voice in that vote?

 

[1srelluc]

We need an amendment--if this is the way the country wishes to go.

Nope, I do not believe we do if you look at illegals as invaders which is exactly what they are.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump should remove illegals from the next census

If the unelected and unaccountable judges on the SC agree with you we can put them back

The SC is accountable to the Constitution not public opinion.

 

[WorldWatcher]

So you advocate counting people towards a congressional seat that supposedly need to be represented in congress, but have no voice in that vote?

My desires are not relevant.

Reality says the Constitution SPECIFICALLY says apportionment based on the number of persons.

Don't like it? Change the Constitution.

WW

 

[Mac-7]

The SC is accountable to the Constitution not public opinion.

The serve for life and are not accountable to the people that they rule over

 

[OldFlame]

My desires are not relevant.

Reality says the Constitution SPECIFICALLY says apportionment based on the number of persons.

Don't like it? Change the Constitution.

WW

Number of persons that can legally vote for representation.

 

[1srelluc]

America suffered an unprecedented illegal invasion at the hands of the dems and there is no ******* way the dems should be rewarded for it.

It goes against the very notion of right and wrong....Ram it through congress and let SCOTUS decide.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Hoo Boy! You sure are want to count illegals for some reason and I suspect it has shit-all to do with the Constitution given the way you people try to ****-over gun owners.

Not into reading much? I would challenge you to show in any place where I said I liked counting illegals or that I even agreed with those portions of the Constitution I quoted.
My issue with this is the blatant unconstitutionality of the proposed bill--the merits, or lack thereof, are irrelevant.
Dumb-ass.

 

[1srelluc]

Not into reading much? I would challenge you to show in any place where I said I liked counting illegals or that I even agreed with those portions of the Constitution I quoted.
My issue with this is the blatant unconstitutionality of the proposed bill--the merits, or lack thereof, are irrelevant.
Dumb-ass.

Bugger off, don't even try that middle of the road BS with me.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Trump should remove illegals from the next census

If the unelected and unaccountable judges on the SC agree with you we can put them back

As you should know, Trump is not the King..and he just does not have that power..nor will he ever~

BTW..next census...2030.

 

[1srelluc]

As you should know, Trump is not the King..and he just does not have that power..nor will he ever~

BTW..next census...2030.

Hopefully SCOTUS will have decided by then.

 

[Anomalism]

No it isnt it determines which party has the power. The census determines how many seats are in the house by state population. Democrats have lost so many people from their states that they will lose seats in the next census. States like NY CA and NJ saw their populations move to states like TX and FL. Those seats go to those red states. They also gain EC votes. Democrats are looking at a serious loss of power.
Thats why they opened the border and made sanctuary cities to attract illegals to replace the loss of real citizens in their states.

Illegals should not be counted because they cant vote

If the data ultimately means something relevant then that is something else. I am just saying that I am not opposed to the collection of information and knowledge.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The serve for life and are not accountable to the people that they rule over

They do not rule over anyone. They are servants of the Constitution.

Take it up with the Founders.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The GOP has tried to do this before and failed, but now they control the house and senate and it should go thru. This is long long overdue.

BREAKING: Trump orders new census that does NOT count illegal immigrants

“People who are in our Country illegally WILL NOT BE COUNTED IN THE CENSUS.”

thepostmillennial.com

Nope. The Constitution says: Go Directly to Jail Do Not Pass Go.
Article One of the Constitution:
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse [sic] three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

They can do a census but its worthless for reapportionment and funds allocation.

 

[Anomalism]

It's data used to add congressional seats, so if you want your data that's fine, but it should not be used towards determining congressional seats, period.

I am talking about collecting the data for how many of them are actually citizens. Some people will oppose that when it really just gives us a clearer picture of what's going on.

We should actually collect both in my opinion. Total number and the number of just citizens.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Bugger off, don't even try that middle of the road BS with me.

**** off douche---your contrived hair-on fire BS...is apparent to all..and weak..very weak.

You don't mention the Constitutional argument..because you cannot rebut it..simple as that.
So you resort to high school pejorative..as an inadequate substitute for cogent rebuttal.