Trump Officially Throws Pro-Lifers Under the Bus

[Dragonlady]

Newsflash moron,

No Republican is against reproducing. We encourage people to make babies.

Then stop killing women who are having miscarriages. Nothing discourages women from having babies, more than the possibility of dying because they got pregnant. 80% of these deaths are preventable, but Republicans refuse to allow doctors to treat these women.

The U.S. Maternal Mortality Crisis Continues to Worsen: An International Comparison

The U.S. maternal mortality rate exceeds that of other high-income countries, and the gap between the U.S. and its peer nations is widening.

www.commonwealthfund.org

https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(24)00005-X/fulltext

 

[Dragonlady]

Why would they be necessary on a viable fetus instead of just removing the living fetus via C-section?

Because the fetus being "removed" isn't viable. That's why it's being aborted. That's why stillbirths are rising in Texas by 10%. Because women are being forced to carry a non-viable fetus to term, and then the have to watch it die hours after the birth.

 

[martybegan]

Because the fetus being "removed" isn't viable. That's why it's being aborted. That's why stillbirths are rising in Texas by 10%. Because women are being forced to carry a non-viable fetus to term, and then the have to watch it die hours after the birth.

And yet the laws don't consider that. Stillbirths aren't abortions. Miscarriages aren't abortions.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So am I. 10-15 weeks is a better range for birth control abortions.

The amendment will allow abortion up to birth

 

[martybegan]

The amendment will allow abortion up to birth

That goes too far.

Let's see how the people of Florida vote on it.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

That goes too far.

Let's see how the people of Florida vote on it.

It will easily pass

 

[martybegan]

It will easily pass

I don't think so. Also doesn't it only limit birth control abortions to the 2nd trimester, not the 3rd?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I don't think so.

Every abortion referendum that has been on the ballot since Roe was overturned, has easily passed, even in states far more conservative than Florida

Also doesn't it only limit birth control abortions to the 2nd trimester, not the 3rd?

The proposal says “prior to viability,” a timeframe it does not define

 

[martybegan]

Every abortion referendum that has been on the ballot since Roe was overturned, has easily passed, even in states far more conservative than Florida



The proposal says “prior to viability,” a timeframe it does not define

Usually around 24 weeks, i.e. at the end of the 2nd trimester.

The abortion zealots make these things vague intentionally.

 

[john doe 101]

Why would they be necessary on a viable fetus instead of just removing the living fetus via C-section?

That's the point, dipshit. It's not viable. But these wack jobs want to force women to give birth to a non viable fetus.

 

[martybegan]

That's the point, dipshit. It's not viable. But these wack jobs want to force women to give birth to a non viable fetus.

No, they don't.

What abortion fanatics do is claim fetuses that may have issues after birth are non-viable.

 

[john doe 101]

No, they don't.

What abortion fanatics do is claim fetuses that may have issues after birth are non-viable.

Not having a skull...sure the baby could survive for a few hours...then what? You sick fucks want to force women to give birth to that. You're fucking sick freaks.

 

[martybegan]

Not having a skull...sure the baby could survive for a few hours...then what? You sick fucks want to force women to give birth to that. You're fucking sick freaks.

Nope. But you sick fucks want to allow abortion to the last second if the woman believes her health, not her life is at risk, and she finds a single doctor to agree with her.

 

[john doe 101]

Nope. But you sick fucks want to allow abortion to the last second if the woman believes her health, not her life is at risk, and she finds a single doctor to agree with her.

This is going to cost you the election. See you in November, sick freak.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Nope. But you sick fucks want to allow abortion to the last second if the woman believes her health, not her life is at risk, and she finds a single doctor to agree with her.

I've never heard of this happening.

 

[martybegan]

I've never heard of this happening.

It's how the laws are written in NY or Cali. Abortion for health of the mother at any time, regardless of viability as long as 1 doctor signs off on it.

 

[martybegan]

This is going to cost you the election. See you in November, sick freak.

Nope. The Dems are too far left to make them winners this cycle, despite the usual attempt they will make to move to the center.

Or just not say anything at all about their policies and keep attacking Trump.

Do you idiots realize most people are numb to it by now after almost a decade of you morons crying wolf?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Traumatized In Risk Of Incarceration By Inquisition From Ass Clowns "

* Covert Misgivings Of The Disingenuous *

And yet the laws don't consider that. Stillbirths aren't abortions. Miscarriages aren't abortions.

A miscarriage is not an abortion until the police show up to investigate and district attorney file charges for intentionally causing ones own miscarriage that qualifies as a self induced abortion .

Texas woman charged with murder for self-induced abortion sues Starr County district attorney

The Starr County district attorney dropped the improper charges, but the fallout “forever changed the Plaintiff’s life,” a new federal lawsuit says.

www.texastribune.org

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/11/us/brittany-watts-miscarriage-no-criminal-charges/index.html

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Disingenuous Forcing Absurd Standards To Validate Their Own Faith And Insecurities "

* Lives In Fantasy Land That No Thing From Goad Is Not Good *

Nope. But you sick fucks want to allow abortion to the last second if the woman believes her health, not her life is at risk, and she finds a single doctor to agree with her.

Is the abortion anti-choice so demented and stupid that it believes abortion in the third trimester is without cause ?

If the abortion anti-choice were compelled to not be vapid liars it would help , yet every depiction of a fetus at those stages of development is a fully formed , perfectly healthy , living angel , and the entirety of all pregnancies is a perfected gift from goad .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Abortion Anti-choice Perpetrate Forced Public Ignorance For With Versus Without Cause Abortion "

* Freak Farmer Fanatics Stipulate Viable And Ignore Congenital Malformations *

No, they don't.
What abortion fanatics do is claim fetuses that may have issues after birth are non-viable.

The reasons for termination of pregnancy in the third trimester - PubMed

One-third of late terminations of pregnancy could have been avoided by more efficient screening in the second trimester. However, because fetal prognosis is not always clear when a malformation is diagnosed, postponing the decision until fetal development allows more thorough evaluation and may...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

PIP: The processes associated with late terminations of pregnancies with a fetal abnormality were assessed in a retrospective study of 956 consecutive second- and third-trimester abortions performed at the Maternite Port Royal University Hospital in Paris, France, in 1986-94. 651 of these terminations were performed in the second trimester and 305 in the third trimester. The main indications for third-trimester abortion were neurologic anomalies, multiple malformations with a normal karyotype, and chromosomal anomalies diagnosed after an abnormal routine ultrasound scan. In 55 cases (18%) of third-trimester induced abortion, the anomaly could not have been diagnosed before the third-trimester. This group included cases of autoimmune hydrops occurring in the third trimester, Down's syndrome revealed by sonographic anomalies, and structural chromosomal anomalies revealed by intrauterine growth restriction or caused by cytomegalovirus infection. In an additional 122 (40%) of the third-trimester abortions, the prognosis of the anomaly could not have been established firmly until the third trimester, even though prenatal diagnosis was feasible earlier. The majority of these cases involved cerebral ventriculomegalies. In another 15 cases (5%), the poor prognosis of the fetus was established in the second trimester, but the termination was postponed, either by the physician or because the couple required more time to reach a decision. In the final 113 cases (37%), the condition for which pregnancy termination was performed in the third trimester could have been identified earlier in pregnancy, but screenings during the second trimester resulted in false-negative findings. Myelomeningocele, trisomy 18 and 13, and lethal dwarfism accounted for the majority of these potentially avoidable third-trimester terminations.