trump makes the case for not indicting Jim Comey.

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When trump fired Comey in 2017 he sent a letter to the DoJ explaining why. He said he had taken the advice of the then 1 and 2 in the dept., Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein. What follows is Rosenstein's rationale. (I would have included Sessions' as well but it's too much to cut and paste for board copyright rules.)

The Best Case Against Indicting Comey Is the One Trump Made for Firing Him​

Rosenstein criticized Comey’s behavior during the F.B.I. investigation of Hillary Clinton’s emails, when the director gave a high-profile news conference in 2016 criticizing Clinton for being “extremely careless” in using a private server for government work but declined to bring charges against her. Rosenstein said Comey had “gratuitously” released “derogatory information” about Clinton and had “laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial.” He called it a “textbook example” of what federal officials are trained not to do.

He was talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but he could be talking about Trump today.

“The goal of a federal criminal investigation is not to announce our thoughts at a press conference,” Rosenstein continued. “The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the attorney general to make a prosecutorial decision.”

He was talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but he could be talking about Trump today.

Rosenstein cited the views of several top-ranking Justice Department officials to support his recommendation. Judge Laurence Silberman, who was deputy attorney general during the Ford administration, said that “it is not the bureau’s responsibility to opine on whether a matter should be prosecuted.” Rosenstein quoted Jamie Gorelick and Larry Thompson, who served as deputy attorneys general under President Clinton and George W. Bush, as saying that Comey had violated his obligation to “preserve, protect and defend” the traditions of the Justice Department, and had instead engaged in “a kind of reality TV of federal criminal investigation” that was “antithetical to the interests of justice.”

They were talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but they could be talking about Trump today.


I'd like to focus on this part of Rod's remarks. “The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the attorney general to make a prosecutorial decision.”

That is what happened, sorta. Erik Seibert was the federal prosecutor and he made a prosecutorial decision. It just wasn't the one trump wanted him to make. So he and his deputy, Maya Song, who happened to agree with Seibert, were fired.

Right now the country could use some of what trump 1.0 had but trump 2.0 does not. Someone trump will listen to who will tell him, "Sir, you shouldn't do that, it's a terrible idea."

It's a terrible idea to fire a US Attorney you appointed because he could find sufficient evidence to charge two people you announced to the world are part of your politically motivated revenge tour.

It's a terrible idea to violate the Posse Comitatus Act and send troops in to US cities against the expressed wishes of the governor of the state and the mayor of the city on the pretense of a made up emergency.

It's a terrible idea to claim authorization under the Alien Enemies Act to deport people since it was not intended to be used that way.

Impulsive, reckless, illegal acts are no way to run a country. Gen. John Kelly knew that. There are no John Kelly's with trump's ear now. We are seeing trump completely unleashed.......being the prez he always wanted to be.......and it shows.
 
If James Comey can lock up Martha Stewart for insider trading for a few months, something that is common place for democrats like Nancy Pelosi who do it with impunity, then we can do it to Comey for a few months for lying to Congress.

Not to worry, the jail cell will be like a country club, no doubt.

And who knows, maybe they will give him some seashells to play with so he can spell out, "Don't bed over for the soap" with sea shells.

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If James Comey can lock up Martha Stewart for insider trading for a few months, something that is common place for democrats like Nancy Pelosi who do it with impunity, then we can do it to Comey for a few months for lying to Congress.
Putting aside the specious, childish "you did it first" argument, if Comey is guilty why didn't virtually anyone in the office Seibert ran believe a winnable case could be made against him?
 
He is literally writing the Defense's motions for them. Odds that this gets kicked in the next sixty days pretrial are high.
I would be dismissed on the obvious grounds of "vindictive prosecution" but I think Comey wants the trial. He wants to prove his innocence and in so doing humiliate trump's DoJ and trump himself.
 
Putting aside the specious, childish "you did it first" argument, if Comey is guilty why didn't virtually anyone in the office Seibert ran believe a winnable case could be made against him?
No one ever goes up against the Deep State.

You only do it if you are willing to take a bullet like Trump.

No worries, your stooge Comey will be just fine with an Obama judge and your goons in the Swamp to protect him.
 
If James Comey can lock up Martha Stewart for insider trading for a few months, something that is common place for democrats like Nancy Pelosi who do it with impunity, then we can do it to Comey for a few months for lying to Congress.

Not to worry, the jail cell will be like a country club, no doubt.

And who knows, maybe they will give him some seashells to play with so he can spell out, "Don't bed over for the soap" with sea shells.

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“It's a terrible idea to fire a US Attorney you appointed because he could find sufficient evidence to charge two people you announced to the world are part of your politically motivated revenge tour.

It's a terrible idea to violate the Posse Comitatus Act and send troops in to US cities against the expressed wishes of the governor of the state and the mayor of the city on the pretense of a made up emergency.

It's a terrible idea to claim authorization under the Alien Enemies Act to deport people since it was not intended to be used that way.”


Trump is a terrible president – reckless, irresponsible, unfit to hold any public office.

And Trump supporters/defenders are just as reprehensible and wrong.
 
When trump fired Comey in 2017 he sent a letter to the DoJ explaining why. He said he had taken the advice of the then 1 and 2 in the dept., Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein. What follows is Rosenstein's rationale. (I would have included Sessions' as well but it's too much to cut and paste for board copyright rules.)

The Best Case Against Indicting Comey Is the One Trump Made for Firing Him​

Rosenstein criticized Comey’s behavior during the F.B.I. investigation of Hillary Clinton’s emails, when the director gave a high-profile news conference in 2016 criticizing Clinton for being “extremely careless” in using a private server for government work but declined to bring charges against her. Rosenstein said Comey had “gratuitously” released “derogatory information” about Clinton and had “laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial.” He called it a “textbook example” of what federal officials are trained not to do.

He was talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but he could be talking about Trump today.

“The goal of a federal criminal investigation is not to announce our thoughts at a press conference,” Rosenstein continued. “The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the attorney general to make a prosecutorial decision.”

He was talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but he could be talking about Trump today.

Rosenstein cited the views of several top-ranking Justice Department officials to support his recommendation. Judge Laurence Silberman, who was deputy attorney general during the Ford administration, said that “it is not the bureau’s responsibility to opine on whether a matter should be prosecuted.” Rosenstein quoted Jamie Gorelick and Larry Thompson, who served as deputy attorneys general under President Clinton and George W. Bush, as saying that Comey had violated his obligation to “preserve, protect and defend” the traditions of the Justice Department, and had instead engaged in “a kind of reality TV of federal criminal investigation” that was “antithetical to the interests of justice.”

They were talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but they could be talking about Trump today.


I'd like to focus on this part of Rod's remarks. “The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the attorney general to make a prosecutorial decision.”

That is what happened, sorta. Erik Seibert was the federal prosecutor and he made a prosecutorial decision. It just wasn't the one trump wanted him to make. So he and his deputy, Maya Song, who happened to agree with Seibert, were fired.

Right now the country could use some of what trump 1.0 had but trump 2.0 does not. Someone trump will listen to who will tell him, "Sir, you shouldn't do that, it's a terrible idea."

It's a terrible idea to fire a US Attorney you appointed because he could find sufficient evidence to charge two people you announced to the world are part of your politically motivated revenge tour.

It's a terrible idea to violate the Posse Comitatus Act and send troops in to US cities against the expressed wishes of the governor of the state and the mayor of the city on the pretense of a made up emergency.

It's a terrible idea to claim authorization under the Alien Enemies Act to deport people since it was not intended to be used that way.

Impulsive, reckless, illegal acts are no way to run a country. Gen. John Kelly knew that. There are no John Kelly's with trump's ear now. We are seeing trump completely unleashed.......being the prez he always wanted to be.......and it shows.
A ton of evidence has come out since then, moron.

THREAD FAIL!
 
When trump fired Comey in 2017 he sent a letter to the DoJ explaining why. He said he had taken the advice of the then 1 and 2 in the dept., Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein. What follows is Rosenstein's rationale. (I would have included Sessions' as well but it's too much to cut and paste for board copyright rules.)

The Best Case Against Indicting Comey Is the One Trump Made for Firing Him​

Rosenstein criticized Comey’s behavior during the F.B.I. investigation of Hillary Clinton’s emails, when the director gave a high-profile news conference in 2016 criticizing Clinton for being “extremely careless” in using a private server for government work but declined to bring charges against her. Rosenstein said Comey had “gratuitously” released “derogatory information” about Clinton and had “laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial.” He called it a “textbook example” of what federal officials are trained not to do.

He was talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but he could be talking about Trump today.

“The goal of a federal criminal investigation is not to announce our thoughts at a press conference,” Rosenstein continued. “The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the attorney general to make a prosecutorial decision.”

He was talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but he could be talking about Trump today.

Rosenstein cited the views of several top-ranking Justice Department officials to support his recommendation. Judge Laurence Silberman, who was deputy attorney general during the Ford administration, said that “it is not the bureau’s responsibility to opine on whether a matter should be prosecuted.” Rosenstein quoted Jamie Gorelick and Larry Thompson, who served as deputy attorneys general under President Clinton and George W. Bush, as saying that Comey had violated his obligation to “preserve, protect and defend” the traditions of the Justice Department, and had instead engaged in “a kind of reality TV of federal criminal investigation” that was “antithetical to the interests of justice.”

They were talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but they could be talking about Trump today.


I'd like to focus on this part of Rod's remarks. “The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the attorney general to make a prosecutorial decision.”

That is what happened, sorta. Erik Seibert was the federal prosecutor and he made a prosecutorial decision. It just wasn't the one trump wanted him to make. So he and his deputy, Maya Song, who happened to agree with Seibert, were fired.

Right now the country could use some of what trump 1.0 had but trump 2.0 does not. Someone trump will listen to who will tell him, "Sir, you shouldn't do that, it's a terrible idea."

It's a terrible idea to fire a US Attorney you appointed because he could find sufficient evidence to charge two people you announced to the world are part of your politically motivated revenge tour.

It's a terrible idea to violate the Posse Comitatus Act and send troops in to US cities against the expressed wishes of the governor of the state and the mayor of the city on the pretense of a made up emergency.

It's a terrible idea to claim authorization under the Alien Enemies Act to deport people since it was not intended to be used that way.

Impulsive, reckless, illegal acts are no way to run a country. Gen. John Kelly knew that. There are no John Kelly's with trump's ear now. We are seeing trump completely unleashed.......being the prez he always wanted to be.......and it shows.

Comey was trotted out because of the Lynch meeting with Bill on tarmac fiasco.
 
Wasn't the indictment over what he said to congress in 2020? When did Trump fire him?
 
No one ever goes up against the Deep State.

You only do it if you are willing to take a bullet like Trump.

No worries, your stooge Comey will be just fine with an Obama judge and your goons in the Swamp to protect him.
It always comes down to that argument with you folks. You think trump was charged and found guilty due to the very corruption he foments. That if Seibert couldn't find enough evidence to charge James or Comey it has to be because of the mythical deep state when in fact it has to do with a lack of factual predicate.

You forget that trump wanting someone to be guilty, like he is, does not make that person guilty. You forget he is trying to assassinate their characters thinking it somehow makes him look innocent. It doesn't.
 
I would be dismissed on the obvious grounds of "vindictive prosecution" but I think Comey wants the trial. He wants to prove his innocence and in so doing humiliate trump's DoJ and trump himself.
Doubtful. That costs money.
 
I guess you'd have to believe that to justify Seibert and Song being fired.
It's what normal do with incompetent people. Your cult promotes them - Biden, Harris ....
 
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No one ever goes up against the Deep State.

You only do it if you are willing to take a bullet like Trump.

No worries, your stooge Comey will be just fine with an Obama judge and your goons in the Swamp to protect him.
You really think Pvt. Bone Spurs was "willing" to take a bullet?

Comey Pleads Not Guilty and Will Seek to Dismiss Charges as Vindictive​

James Comey, the former F.B.I. director targeted by President Trump, pleaded not guilty on Wednesday to charges he lied to Congress. His lawyer said he would move to quickly dismiss the case, calling it a “vindictive” and “selective” prosecution.

Mr. Comey, wearing a dark suit and accompanied by his family, stood to his full 6-foot-8 height to offer his plea, and a “thank you very much,” to District Judge Michael Nachmanoff during a brisk court appearance that began five minutes early and lasted less than half an hour.

If the hearing offered a guide to the defense’s strategy, it revealed little new about a case deemed so weak by career prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia that they refused to have anything to do with it. That reluctance forced the White House to quickly insert a stand-in U.S. attorney to file the indictment.

Mr. Comey’s lead lawyer, Patrick Fitzgerald, vented his exasperation in the hearing, saying that his “first substantive contact” with prosecutors came Tuesday night. He said he still had not received specific details of the charges, including the identities of witnesses, beyond the two-page indictment approved by a split grand jury on Sept. 25.


This is a full blown clown show. Part of me wants to feel sorry for Halligan but I can't get there since she brought the impending humiliation on herself willingly.
 
When trump fired Comey in 2017 he sent a letter to the DoJ explaining why. He said he had taken the advice of the then 1 and 2 in the dept., Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein. What follows is Rosenstein's rationale. (I would have included Sessions' as well but it's too much to cut and paste for board copyright rules.)

The Best Case Against Indicting Comey Is the One Trump Made for Firing Him​

Rosenstein criticized Comey’s behavior during the F.B.I. investigation of Hillary Clinton’s emails, when the director gave a high-profile news conference in 2016 criticizing Clinton for being “extremely careless” in using a private server for government work but declined to bring charges against her. Rosenstein said Comey had “gratuitously” released “derogatory information” about Clinton and had “laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial.” He called it a “textbook example” of what federal officials are trained not to do.

He was talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but he could be talking about Trump today.

“The goal of a federal criminal investigation is not to announce our thoughts at a press conference,” Rosenstein continued. “The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the attorney general to make a prosecutorial decision.”

He was talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but he could be talking about Trump today.

Rosenstein cited the views of several top-ranking Justice Department officials to support his recommendation. Judge Laurence Silberman, who was deputy attorney general during the Ford administration, said that “it is not the bureau’s responsibility to opine on whether a matter should be prosecuted.” Rosenstein quoted Jamie Gorelick and Larry Thompson, who served as deputy attorneys general under President Clinton and George W. Bush, as saying that Comey had violated his obligation to “preserve, protect and defend” the traditions of the Justice Department, and had instead engaged in “a kind of reality TV of federal criminal investigation” that was “antithetical to the interests of justice.”

They were talking about Comey nearly a decade ago, but they could be talking about Trump today.


I'd like to focus on this part of Rod's remarks. “The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the attorney general to make a prosecutorial decision.”

That is what happened, sorta. Erik Seibert was the federal prosecutor and he made a prosecutorial decision. It just wasn't the one trump wanted him to make. So he and his deputy, Maya Song, who happened to agree with Seibert, were fired.

Right now the country could use some of what trump 1.0 had but trump 2.0 does not. Someone trump will listen to who will tell him, "Sir, you shouldn't do that, it's a terrible idea."

It's a terrible idea to fire a US Attorney you appointed because he could find sufficient evidence to charge two people you announced to the world are part of your politically motivated revenge tour.

It's a terrible idea to violate the Posse Comitatus Act and send troops in to US cities against the expressed wishes of the governor of the state and the mayor of the city on the pretense of a made up emergency.

It's a terrible idea to claim authorization under the Alien Enemies Act to deport people since it was not intended to be used that way.

Impulsive, reckless, illegal acts are no way to run a country. Gen. John Kelly knew that. There are no John Kelly's with trump's ear now. We are seeing trump completely unleashed.......being the prez he always wanted to be.......and it shows.
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I have that poster on ignore. What's the question?
Wasn't the indictment over what he said to congress in 2020? When did Trump fire him?

Your argument was over what happened in 2017, which the statute of limitations has potentially ran out. Comey has been indicted for something that happened in 2020.
 
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