Trump looks weaker than Neville Chamberland as he sells out democracy

[wihosa]

If Putin can claim any kind of a win out of his unprovoked illegal terrorist invasion of a neighboring democratic nation the security of every country that shares a border with Russia will be in jepordy specifically and the cause of freedom and democracy in general will be imperiled.

In reality, Ukraine cannot hope to defeat Russia, occupy Moscow or force a regime change.
Ukraine can, with the help of the free world easily out last Putin, who can end this war whenever he wants...or when his army falls down.
Only Trump can save Putin the humiliating withdrawal of his army that it so deserves.

 

[wihosa]

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Guess we know which side you're on...

 

[wihosa]

Ukraine did that mostly on their own. Biden failed to deliver assistance in a timely manner, He forfeits all credit for what he has done. How did you feel about his restrictions on the use of our missile systems against the Russian territories?

I never said they would.

Your distain for Biden is just the brainwashing my friend
When you unplug for a while , your American values will reset.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Because he is owned by Putin. Trump has had a bad word for literally everyone he has ever talked about...except Putin! Never a negative word about Putin out of Trump...why do you suppose that is?
Trump is going to do what his owner wants him to do.

Don't forget, Trump is a convicted criminal, he's been 'criming' his whole adult life and has received large amounts of Russian oligarchs $.

He's as owned as one can be....

Putin is the only other one with nuclear weapons!

Trump's conviction was created and will be overturned. That Russian oligarch money went to Biden, moron!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Brainwashed by billionaires

No matter how many times you repeat that stupid line, doesn't make it any more true. You are a liberal sycophant.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Your distain for Biden is just the brainwashing my friend
When you unplug for a while , your American values will reset.

If you don't know Biden was a puppet and certifiably senile, there is no hope for you. May God have mercy on your soul!

 

[Independent thinker]

At the rate they are "taking over territory " they will take over all of Ukraine in ...100 years!

Winning?

In other words, you're fine with the US footing the bill for 100 years after which Russia finally annexes all of Ukraine. Millions of lives and billions or trillions of dollars lost over 100 years to achieve absolutely nothing.

 

[sartre play]

Why not end the war and let them keep their freedom instead of an endless struggle against a for they cannot defeat?

OR Russia could stop attacking its neighbors, Russia withdraws, Instant end of war!

 

[Clipper]

Ukrainians have been heroically laying down their lives to defend their freedom and democracy against a brutal unprovoked invader.

Russia is obviously losing. If you're the invader and you're not winning...you're losing. Russia's economy is crashing, the ruble cratering.Russia is dependent on North Korea for soldiers and ammunition...Putin is losing and only a treasonous President Trump can save him.

Which side are you on?

Freedom or tyranny? Used to be an easy answer for most Americans...

I said it before. If Trump is reelected he will stab Ukraine in the back & give Putin what he wants. Which is exactly what's going on. Trump doesn't give a damn about Ukraine or it's people because he hates Democracy & is a strongman wannabe dictator criminal lowlife.

They can spin it for the MAGA idiots all they want to.

 

[Clipper]

IDGAF. The US bears no responsibility. Not our war. Those dead Ukrainians are on Zelensky. He could have negotiated the inevitable end of this before hostilities and saved a bundle of HIS countrymen's lives as well as Russian lives and a boat load of US taxpayer $$$ that you and Biden wasted.

**** off idiot. It was Putin who invaded. What you mean by Zelensky negotiating is him turning tail & running like a coward & betraying his Country.

You're just another disgraceful Putin lackey.

Say hello to "Iggy" you ****.

 

[Concerned American]

It was Putin who invaded.

Durrrr. In 2014, when your last incompetent offering for POTUS allowed him to annex Crimea. Why are you suddenly upset after you gave him a green light in 2014. My answer stands. NOT MY COUNTRIES, NOT MY WAR. If you're so concerned, pack your stuff and haul your butt over there and show YOUR commitment. Tell your kids that you think they should put their lives on the line for that war as well.

Say hello to "Iggy"

Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

 

[Correll]

The delusion is yours my friend.

You've been brainwashed by billionaires...unplug for a couple weeks...

My real "game" is countering this brainwashing.

Truth. Trump is a liar and is owned by Putin
He will do what his owner wants even if it is selling out Freedom and Democracy...

And again, all you did was spam partisan negs.

This war is killing real people. YOu seem to not care about that.


We don't need it. The Ukrainians don't need it. Helll, the Russians, are certainly not benefitting from this.


Get a reasonable deal, end the dying and that will be a GOOD THING.

 

[Correll]

If Putin can claim any kind of a win out of his unprovoked illegal terrorist invasion of a neighboring democratic nation the security of every country that shares a border with Russia will be in jepordy specifically and the cause of freedom and democracy in general will be imperiled.

Putin's numbrer one NEED is an ability to claim some kind of win, to save face with his supporters.

He gets to maintain his political support, and we get to save hundreds of thousands of lives.

I'm comfortable with that deal.

In reality, Ukraine cannot hope to defeat Russia, occupy Moscow or force a regime change.

It would be unlikely. At least not without many more years of their people dying in large numbers.

Ukraine can, with the help of the free world easily out last Putin, who can end this war whenever he wants...or when his army falls down.

This statement is a statement that could only be made by someone with a child's understanding of history or politics.


Putin can't just "end the war". he needs the enemy to co-operate.

Only Trump can save Putin the humiliating withdrawal of his army that it so deserves.

"Deserves"?

Your motivation is hurting the feelings of the russian army and for that you are willing to see Ukrainians DIE by the thousands?

That is not a morally just position. It is no wonder that most of your fellow lefties talk more shit instead of admitting how callous and bloodthirsty their true motives are.

 

[Concerned American]

Putin's numbrer one NEED is an ability to claim some kind of win, to save face with his supporters.

He gets to maintain his political support, and we get to save hundreds of thousands of lives.

I'm comfortable with that deal.




It would be unlikely. At least not without many more years of their people dying in large numbers.



This statement is a statement that could only be made by someone with a child's understanding of history or politics.


Putin can't just "end the war". he needs the enemy to co-operate.




"Deserves"?

Your motivation is hurting the feelings of the russian army and for that you are willing to see Ukrainians DIE by the thousands?

That is not a morally just position. It is no wonder that most of your fellow lefties talk more shit instead of admitting how callous and bloodthirsty their true motives are.

The whole thing is a cluster f***. Putin should have just rented the access to Crimea the same way the US keeps bases overseas. No muss no fuss. But no---Zelensky decided to get Obama/Biden and the democrats involved and this shit show is the result.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You're repeating Russian propaganda.

At the rate Russia has been "advancing " they will take 100 years to conquer Ukraine (not the Ukraine).

It's very difficult to dislodge dug in forces. After Russia's unprovoked invasion they gained a foothold by surprise and they got dug in. The US gave Ukraine an intelligence warning and the Russians were stopped far short of occupying the entire country. After three years the lines are little changed other than Ukraine's own surprise invasion into Kursk were they have dug in and have proven difficult to dislodge
The reality for the invading force is that if you're not winning...you're losing.

Russia is clearly losing this war. A three day " Special Military Operation ' has turned into a three year quagmire. Putin has destroyed his best troops and equipment. Casualties for Russia are approaching 1 million. Nearly 4 million service age Russians have fled the country He is dependent on North Korea for troops and ammunition.
The Russian economy has an inflation rate in excess of 10%. The ruble is cratering.

Putin is barely hanging on...the only thing that can save him from a well deserved humiliating withdrawal is Donny the Surrender Money!

Heroic Ukrainian freedom fighters deserve the support of America the world wide champion of freedom and democracy...or will we try appeasement with Putin?
How did "Peace In Our Time" work out for Neville Chamberlain?

Well this conversation ended suddenly, didn't it?

If you're going to use "you're repeating Russian propaganda" at me, I can't be bothered.

 

[Contumacious]

If Putin can claim any kind of a win out of his unprovoked illegal terrorist invasion of a neighboring democratic nation the security of every country that shares a border with Russia will be in jepordy specifically and the cause of freedom and democracy in general will be imperiled.

In reality, Ukraine cannot hope to defeat Russia, occupy Moscow or force a regime change.
Ukraine can, with the help of the free world easily out last Putin, who can end this war whenever he wants...or when his army falls down.
Only Trump can save Putin the humiliating withdrawal of his army that it so deserves.

SHUT THE **** UP

STUDY THE 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis and tell me how is what JFK did different than what Putin did :

Cuban Missile Crisis​

For thirteen days in October 1962 the world waited—seemingly on the brink of nuclear war—and hoped for a peaceful resolution to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

In October 1962, an American U-2 spy plane secretly photographed nuclear missile sites being built by the Soviet Union on the island of Cuba. President Kennedy did not want the Soviet Union and Cuba to know that he had discovered the missiles. He met in secret with his advisors for several days to discuss the problem.
After many long and difficult meetings, Kennedy decided to place a naval blockade, or a ring of ships, around Cuba. The aim of this "quarantine," as he called it, was to prevent the Soviets from bringing in more military supplies. He demanded the removal of the missiles already there and the destruction of the sites. On October 22, President Kennedy spoke to the nation about the crisis in a televised address.

Cuban Missile Crisis

In October 1962, an American U2 spy plane secretly photographed nuclear missile sites being built by the Soviet Union on the island of Cuba. Because he did not want Cuba and the Soviet Union to know that he had discovered the missiles, Kennedy met in secret with his advisors for several days to...

www.jfklibrary.org

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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

OR Russia could stop attacking its neighbors, Russia withdraws, Instant end of war!

Nice fantasy you have there. Now try something in the real world.

 

[HeyNorm]

Trump is on the dais now and we will see how it all ends. The Dems are not in the picture, so it will be up to Trump himself to go up or go down.

My bet is on the downside

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This elevator ONLY GOES UP!

 

[Luckyone]

This elevator ONLY GOES UP!

For your survival

 

[wihosa]

If you don't know Biden was a puppet and certifiably senile, there is no hope for you. May God have mercy on your soul!

The brainwashing is very strong in this one...