Trump lies to attack industry sector

[RealDave]

It went from -30 at the end of the recession to 85 when Obama left office. That is an increase of 115 points, or 300% basically.

It went from 84 to 142 under Trump, or 57 points which is a change of 67%.

Why couldn’t obama get the same numbers? Lol

He started at a much lower point. Trump started on 3rd base.

Why can Trump not get an increase of 300%?

Again you show NOBODy should be asking you for money advice unless they want to lose everything. 3 years vs 8. Nice fair comparison there. Typical of libtards. So in less than half the time, Trump has done as well or better. Up 115 in 8 years is 14.3 per year. 57 in 3 years is 19 per year. Gee Trump has a higher number when you do real math. Oops.

You are the ones claiming all the greatness, dumbasss.

'Trump has lowered the blah blah blah more than Obama" Don't go whining about it.

And you froth at the mouth and spout your garbage on a daily basis. You continually whine about everything.

You ,lie about everything. If your orange buddy was so great why do you & Trump need to lie so much

 

[bripat9643]

Nothing is “free” you dumbass. Neither of those sources can generate power at all times, which is necessary to maintain a BES. Neither one will ever be the primary generation sources for a large grid.

So who says it has to be the primary source for now? Nobody wants to completely do away with any source of energy until a better source is developed. No reason why wind and solar shouldn't be used now. In some instances, they are both better than what we now use.

"So who says it has to be the primary source for now?"

AOC and most of the Dim candidates, to name several.

Well, no. Nobody is advocating complete conversion to a new source of energy before it is able to meet our needs, but it makes sense to start the conversion now in the areas that make sense, and complete it as we are able to.

That's exactly what morons like AOC and Bernie Sanders are doing.

They are talking about making the needed changes.

In other words, they want to force us to use "green energy" even though it's not economically viable. You just admitted what you previously denied.

 

[bripat9643]

It is truly sad when we just accept that our President will blatantly lie and an energy sector. What is his reasoning?


If wind power was so awful, he could trash it by telling the truth.

Is he hoping for more campaign cash from the fossil fuel industry?

I thought the President is not supposed to use his position to promote or trash products.

Are we so used to Trump lying that we just accept it?


Fact-checking Trump on wind turbines - CNNPolitics

Lol. Trump is wrong about windmills killing birds because...cats kill birds?

I can see them huddled in the newsroom and telling the interns “ oy vey go find something, anything, that also kills birds. We will call it “fact checking””.

Wow, that flew over your head.

Using eagles as an excuse to trash wind power while pushing fossil fuels that kill more eagles is the issue, dumbass.

Allowing more unregulated pesticide application will kill more eagles too.

Not moving away from lead shot is killing eagles.

Your source says coal, oil and power lines kill millions of birds. In the first place, wind power needs more power lines than coal or oil. Wind power has to be installed where the wind is. That's normally a lot further from the point of consumption than where coal fired power plants can be built.

Your claim that coal and oil kills millions of birds is utter bullshit. Please show your math.

OK, read this & learn something:

U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service - Migratory Bird Program | Conserving America's Birds

your article doesn't even mention coal fired power plants, dumbass.

 

[lantern2814]

Why couldn’t obama get the same numbers? Lol

He started at a much lower point. Trump started on 3rd base.

Why can Trump not get an increase of 300%?

Again you show NOBODy should be asking you for money advice unless they want to lose everything. 3 years vs 8. Nice fair comparison there. Typical of libtards. So in less than half the time, Trump has done as well or better. Up 115 in 8 years is 14.3 per year. 57 in 3 years is 19 per year. Gee Trump has a higher number when you do real math. Oops.

You are the ones claiming all the greatness, dumbasss.

'Trump has lowered the blah blah blah more than Obama" Don't go whining about it.

And you froth at the mouth and spout your garbage on a daily basis. You continually whine about everything.

You ,lie about everything. If your orange buddy was so great why do you & Trump need to lie so much

I lie about everything huh retard? Proof? Oh that’s right, you have none. Like usual. Why are you so stupid?

 

[eagle1462010]

Pollution on a disastrous scale - Environmental Cost of Wind Turbine Manufacturing

Villagers Su Bairen, 69, and Yan Man Jia Hong, 74, stand on the edge of the six-mile-wide toxic lake in Baotou, China that has devastated their farmland and ruined the health of the people in their community

This toxic lake poisons Chinese farmers, their children and their land. It is what's left behind after making the magnets for Britain's latest wind turbines... and, as a special Live investigation reveals, is merely one of a multitude of environmental sins committed in the name of our new green Jerusalem

The lake of toxic waste at Baotou, China, which as been dumped by the rare earth processing plants in the background

On the outskirts of one of China’s most polluted cities, an old farmer stares despairingly out across an immense lake of bubbling toxic waste covered in black dust. He remembers it as fields of wheat and corn.

 

[eagle1462010]

PBS Newshour: Are Wind Turbine Rare Earth Minerals Too Costly for Environment?

LINDSEY HILSUM: It doesn't look very green. Rare earth processing in China is a messy, dangerous, polluting business. It uses toxic chemicals, acids, sulfates, ammonia. The workers have little or no protection.

But, without rare earth, Copenhagen means nothing. You buy a Prius hybrid car and think you're saving the planet. But each motor contains a kilo of neodymium and each battery more than 10 kilos of lanthanum, rare earth elements from China.

Green campaigners love wind turbines, but the permanent magnets used to manufacture a 3-megawatt turbine contain some two tons of rare earth. The head of China's Rare Earth Research Institute shows me one of those permanent magnets. He's well aware of the issues.

ZHAO ZENGQI, Baotou Rare Earth Research Institute: The environmental problems include air emissions with harmful elements, such as fluorine and sulfur, wastewater that contains excessive acid, and radioactive materials, too. China meets 95 percent of the world's demand for rare earth, and most of the separation and extraction is done here. So, the pollution stays in China, too.

WANG CUN GUANG, farmer: The Baotou Environmental Protection Bureau tested our water, and they concluded that it wasn't fit for people or animals to drink or for irrigation.

LINDSEY HILSUM: For those who remember the old life, it's hard to understand. The authorities pay compensation, acknowledging that the land has been ruined, but they haven't yet relocated the villagers.

JIA BAO CHENG, farmer: Rare earth is the country's resource, but small people like us need to eat, too. We live on farming, but the crops no longer grow, and we will go hungry.

 

[eagle1462010]

He didn't do a good job explaining his comments........Was a poor job about the manufacturing tied to pollution and destroying areas of China to bring you the rare earth materials to make the Wind Turbines.

The same problem in Silicosis of strip mining in China, India, Africa and etc to get the Silica for Solar panels.

The Green Money making machine doesn't show the environmental costs and human costs in other areas of the world, or the suffering and dying of very low paid workers getting the material to the final product.......So the Green machine can say they are saving the planet..........

 

[bodecea]

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The greatest..

That is what your god tells you and you would never question your god.

Optimism is pretty low under Obama pretty high Under trump I wonder why

Looks like it has been going up since 2011 and has leveled off the last two years...

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Now, just think...I know that is hard for you but just try....Trump has another 5 years to go. And once the asshole DEMONRATS in the House lose all chances of a CONTINUAL IMPEACHMENT PLOY, he can truly get down to having a HOUSE that will work FOR THE PEOPLE, INSTEAD OF THEMSELVES, and sit back and watch OUR GREATEST PRESIDENT get down to actually having all his agendas taken care of.....There even is a good chance we will NEVER have a DEMONRAT/Communist in the White House again....now that I gave you the chance to spin, lie, and let your TDS run free, I'll just sit back and watch you and your anti-Anerican friends go to town...ROTFLMFAO

5 years to go? So, the Russian fix on the 2020 election is in?

 

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[eagle1462010]

Thus ends the lesson........Merry Christmas Green Money Making Machine.

 

[RealDave]

It is truly sad when we just accept that our President will blatantly lie and an energy sector. What is his reasoning?


If wind power was so awful, he could trash it by telling the truth.

Is he hoping for more campaign cash from the fossil fuel industry?

I thought the President is not supposed to use his position to promote or trash products.

Are we so used to Trump lying that we just accept it?


Fact-checking Trump on wind turbines - CNNPolitics

Lol. Trump is wrong about windmills killing birds because...cats kill birds?

I can see them huddled in the newsroom and telling the interns “ oy vey go find something, anything, that also kills birds. We will call it “fact checking””.

Wow, that flew over your head.

Using eagles as an excuse to trash wind power while pushing fossil fuels that kill more eagles is the issue, dumbass.

Allowing more unregulated pesticide application will kill more eagles too.

Not moving away from lead shot is killing eagles.

Your source says coal, oil and power lines kill millions of birds. In the first place, wind power needs more power lines than coal or oil. Wind power has to be installed where the wind is. That's normally a lot further from the point of consumption than where coal fired power plants can be built.

Your claim that coal and oil kills millions of birds is utter bullshit. Please show your math.

OK, read this & learn something:

U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service - Migratory Bird Program | Conserving America's Birds

your article doesn't even mention coal fired power plants, dumbass.

I know you ate dumber than shit but if oil already kills more birds then adding coal would only make it worse.

Coal settling ponds are a bird killer.

 

[RealDave]

He didn't do a good job explaining his comments........Was a poor job about the manufacturing tied to pollution and destroying areas of China to bring you the rare earth materials to make the Wind Turbines.

The same problem in Silicosis of strip mining in China, India, Africa and etc to get the Silica for Solar panels.

The Green Money making machine doesn't show the environmental costs and human costs in other areas of the world, or the suffering and dying of very low paid workers getting the material to the final product.......So the Green machine can say they are saving the planet..........

Really? That fucklng stupid argument. Mining for mineral;s might kill miners because those countries do not have regulatiuons to protect their workers. You know, what Trump wants America to be like,

When you burn coal, you kill Americans that live downwind you ******* idiot.

 

[eagle1462010]

He didn't do a good job explaining his comments........Was a poor job about the manufacturing tied to pollution and destroying areas of China to bring you the rare earth materials to make the Wind Turbines.

The same problem in Silicosis of strip mining in China, India, Africa and etc to get the Silica for Solar panels.

The Green Money making machine doesn't show the environmental costs and human costs in other areas of the world, or the suffering and dying of very low paid workers getting the material to the final product.......So the Green machine can say they are saving the planet..........

Really? That fucklng stupid argument. Mining for mineral;s might kill miners because those countries do not have regulatiuons to protect their workers. You know, what Trump wants America to be like,

When you burn coal, you kill Americans that live downwind you ******* idiot.

I promised to be nice for a day........The day isn't over yet.............Maybe tomorrow .......maybe.

 

[eagle1462010]

Major Group 12: Coal Mining | Occupational Safety and Health Administration

 

[bripat9643]

Lol. Trump is wrong about windmills killing birds because...cats kill birds?

I can see them huddled in the newsroom and telling the interns “ oy vey go find something, anything, that also kills birds. We will call it “fact checking””.

Wow, that flew over your head.

Using eagles as an excuse to trash wind power while pushing fossil fuels that kill more eagles is the issue, dumbass.

Allowing more unregulated pesticide application will kill more eagles too.

Not moving away from lead shot is killing eagles.

Your source says coal, oil and power lines kill millions of birds. In the first place, wind power needs more power lines than coal or oil. Wind power has to be installed where the wind is. That's normally a lot further from the point of consumption than where coal fired power plants can be built.

Your claim that coal and oil kills millions of birds is utter bullshit. Please show your math.

OK, read this & learn something:

U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service - Migratory Bird Program | Conserving America's Birds

your article doesn't even mention coal fired power plants, dumbass.

I know you ate dumber than shit but if oil already kills more birds then adding coal would only make it worse.

Coal settling ponds are a bird killer.

"You ate [sic] dumber than shit?"

"You kill me, dumbass!"

 

[bripat9643]

He didn't do a good job explaining his comments........Was a poor job about the manufacturing tied to pollution and destroying areas of China to bring you the rare earth materials to make the Wind Turbines.

The same problem in Silicosis of strip mining in China, India, Africa and etc to get the Silica for Solar panels.

The Green Money making machine doesn't show the environmental costs and human costs in other areas of the world, or the suffering and dying of very low paid workers getting the material to the final product.......So the Green machine can say they are saving the planet..........

Really? That fucklng stupid argument. Mining for mineral;s might kill miners because those countries do not have regulatiuons to protect their workers. You know, what Trump wants America to be like,

When you burn coal, you kill Americans that live downwind you ******* idiot.

Name one person that died because he lived downwind from a coal plant.

 

[Dragonlady]

He didn't do a good job explaining his comments........Was a poor job about the manufacturing tied to pollution and destroying areas of China to bring you the rare earth materials to make the Wind Turbines.

The same problem in Silicosis of strip mining in China, India, Africa and etc to get the Silica for Solar panels.

The Green Money making machine doesn't show the environmental costs and human costs in other areas of the world, or the suffering and dying of very low paid workers getting the material to the final product.......So the Green machine can say they are saving the planet..........

Really? That fucklng stupid argument. Mining for mineral;s might kill miners because those countries do not have regulatiuons to protect their workers. You know, what Trump wants America to be like,

When you burn coal, you kill Americans that live downwind you ******* idiot.

Name one person that died because he lived downwind from a coal plant.

Dumber than a stump. When are you going to start googling your idiotic claims before posting.

US plan for coal power deregulation could cause more deaths

Trump Administration Says Trump Coal Plan Will Kill 1,400 Americans a Year

The EPA’s Climate Rollbacks Could Mean Thousands of Premature Deaths

 

[bripat9643]

He didn't do a good job explaining his comments........Was a poor job about the manufacturing tied to pollution and destroying areas of China to bring you the rare earth materials to make the Wind Turbines.

The same problem in Silicosis of strip mining in China, India, Africa and etc to get the Silica for Solar panels.

The Green Money making machine doesn't show the environmental costs and human costs in other areas of the world, or the suffering and dying of very low paid workers getting the material to the final product.......So the Green machine can say they are saving the planet..........

Really? That fucklng stupid argument. Mining for mineral;s might kill miners because those countries do not have regulatiuons to protect their workers. You know, what Trump wants America to be like,

When you burn coal, you kill Americans that live downwind you ******* idiot.

Name one person that died because he lived downwind from a coal plant.

Dumber than a stump. When are you going to start googling your idiotic claims before posting.

US plan for coal power deregulation could cause more deaths

Trump Administration Says Trump Coal Plan Will Kill 1,400 Americans a Year

The EPA’s Climate Rollbacks Could Mean Thousands of Premature Deaths

Where is the name of the person who died because he lived downwind from a coal plan, eh moron?